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Google vs Microsoft: a case study in how you win and lose manufacturers’ love

0. phoneArena 29 Jun 2012, 08:47 posted on

Last week, Microsoft unveiled its Surface tablet - self-made, with no collaboration from any of its manufacturers, not even Nokia. We can’t even twist our tongues to say Microsoft…

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posted on 29 Jun 2012, 08:48 6

1. mercorp (Posts: 1030; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)


THumbs up.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 09:25 2

11. Wiki_jaan (Posts: 704; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)


really! but y

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 08:53 15

2. pokharkarsaga (Posts: 385; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


thumbs up for Google
thumbs down for Microsoft

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 09:11 5

6. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)


Even people at Microsoft are surprised about that move... honestly, someone needs to fire Ballmer.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 10:44 3

24. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


win for android only for OEMs users may have totally different point of view Goolge tablet in my opinion is a toy and it is priced exactly what a toy should be MS made a pro device

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 08:59 4

3. fsnas (Posts: 103; Member since: 18 Jun 2012)


I really don't care about the OEM "feelings" !!
the only things that matter are quality and performance. And while the OEM couldn't provide a great product like the Surface then the hell with them, they're holding MS back.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 09:02 12

4. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


" Moto is not getting the red carpet treatment from Google. "

honestly though, what have they done to DESERVE the red carpet treatment other than being bought? Asus deserved to get it. Look what theyve done with the transformer. All that power and tons of options without a massive price tag. Samsung is fighting a "premium" battle with apple in the tablet space, and other than Asus, everyone else has pretty much flopped, including Moto. The moto tablets are good, but they are not better than Asus tablets.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 09:24 8

9. Jericho (unregistered)


Haha.......typical remix always dragging samsung into every discussion. Dude grow up.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:27 2

41. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you should take your own advice. I was making a point. Name the biggest android manufacturers not counting the Kindle. Asus and Samsung. Everyone else is marginal.

If you had reading comprehension maybe you would have understood that before commenting.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 09:36 7

15. Victor.H (Posts: 678; Member since: 27 May 2011)


Well, on the other hand, Motorola didn't do much to deserve to be acquired for that much money. And I mean the hardware division, not patents.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 10:01 3

18. Jericho (unregistered)


vic is a loser.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 12:48 5

39. Sangeet (Posts: 232; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


@Jericho Shut up..!!
I am sure that you can't even write a decent Article however hard you try.
Writing post is not an easier task so please atleast don't insult the writers cuz you are not even half what they are

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 16:36 5

48. SleepingOz (unregistered)


The only loser here is you, dude.
Just saying. =]

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 11:49 2

35. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


12.5 billion for 20,000+ patents(including patents waiting to be approved) is not much when you compare it to 5 billion for the 6000 nortel patents they were bidding for...everyone knows google just wanted motorolas patents and the hardware division just was a bonus

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:25 4

40. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Vic,
for what they acquired everything for, they were really paying standard trading price for the patents. Google got Motorola the company as a bonus of sorts.. the company itself was completely free when you look at the cost per patent they paid. That doesnt say much for the health of the company. Im sure el goog will turn it around though, if they are playing "favorites" or not.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 10:36 3

22. McLTE (Posts: 875; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


What did Moto do?

Well.. with the Droid 1, I think Moto helped Google put the Android OS on the map. HTC and T-mobile got things started, but the Droid1 really helped it explode.

Could Google have done it with another manufacturer? Maybe.. but it was the Droid1 that did it first.

I'm not saying it buys them preferential treatment.. and I really like that Google is not handing Moto the next Nexus phones. I would however love to see what Moto would come up with for a Nexus phone with a massive battery.. that would definitely be worth a look!

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 13:29 4

42. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


every year the handset makers submit their best "product" to google to become that year's nexus. Its supposed to be a fair blind competition where they send all the phones in to goog and goog picks the best one to become the Nexus for a year. If moto hasnt become a nexus yet, then moto hasnt submitted the best handset to Goog. It would be neat to see some fresh design language ( HTC's Nexus 1 was much different than other sets of the time, while Samsung uses top notch hardware but rehashes familiar designs)

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 09:08 5

5. tegradragon (Posts: 68; Member since: 23 May 2012)


Just out of curiosity, why is Microsoft the Evil Empire?

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 09:12 5

7. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)


Because it's 1995 again I guess...

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 09:30 4

14. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


That statement was taken out of context, Microsoft is not 'The Evil Empire' and Steve Jobs had no reason to loathe Bill Gates and accuse him of running an 'Evil Empire'. Microsoft has worked arduously over the last twenty years (or so) to deliver efficient and productive platforms and products. Unfortunately, because their upper echalon of Management seem to be out of touch with the consumer and marketplace, mainly because the Sun's rays seem to refract light and energy differently on their bald heads (but, iDigress), many of those products have been absolute failures. Trust me, so too, a failure will be these tablets. Don't get me wrong; I want Microsoft to win, they are 'The Good Empire' but, they are just as out-of-touch in 2012 as they were in 2007. As with everything 'tech', time will tell and the true 'Evil EmpiRe' will diE in vAlhAlA.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 10:57

28. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


if their Tablet runs without bugs in start Android will be in deep trouble and Ipads will be extinct in matter of months since theratically they did what 90% of people wanted for a tablet to be like not an expensive TOY(Ipads/Android tabs) if u guys thing i am making fun of non MS tablets as toys u can think ur self wht is the purpose of quad core with 2GB ram whihc can only run games (not even high tech engine), music(too big for that), newspaper(its only for a time being), vedios(how long will u enjoy it) their will be a point where user will want Tablet to do more just like a laptop this is where MS nailed everything....

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 11:04 4

31. nb2six (Posts: 298; Member since: 27 Apr 2011)


When has microsoft not released something that didn't have bugs galore? Vista anyone...

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 11:08

33. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


lets hope they did actually learned from their past mistakes for change their WP7.5 is very stable and bug free OS but yes it is limited and restricted dont matter here its irrelevant for this reply so hope is high Win8/Wp8 would be error free as well

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 16:46 1

49. SleepingOz (unregistered)


Since when do "limitations and restrictions" not matter?

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 16:48 1

50. Oxygen (Posts: 125; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


since it concerns nokia and ms, i guess...

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 16:51 1

51. Oxygen (Posts: 125; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


It is your biased reasoning that is irrelevant, sir.

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 18:33

53. TROLL.ISAHA (banned) (Posts: 535; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)


Shaarup. . Go gets some knowledge...

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 11:28 2

34. McLTE (Posts: 875; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


MS is one the original evil empires!

do you forget the days when they were scheming with OEMs to force brower installations? how they tried to squash Netscape and Firefox?

Don't paint MS to be an angelic corporation here.. they are barely better than apple in my opinion.

Part of why many saw MS as an evil empire is because they dominated. We all want the little guy to win, so we rooted for Apple... now they dominate and their size, along with shady practices has caused them to take the evil empire slot.

I hope the surface succeeds! It's good for those of us who want a tablet that acts more like a PC and less like a big phone OS. This will cause a massive push in competition with Apple and Android as well. We all win!

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 10:51

27. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


because its bacause of them the whole world is running PCs and stuff related on ohter hand Apple/Google are new born child who takes pride in one of their archivments while MS dont bragg about the unlimited things they gave to world in past

posted on 29 Jun 2012, 16:52 1

52. SleepingOz (unregistered)


Right, cool story bro!

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