Google reportedly facing FTC fine over Mobile Safari tracking bug
0. phoneArena posted on 04 May 2012, 15:32
Google may be facing a fine of $10 million or more over its "breech" of Mobile Safari's privacy settings earlier this year...
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1. 9_HeLLs_oF_DrOid posted on 04 May 2012, 15:37 0 0
" shouldn’t Apple share some culpability for
having allowed the bug to remain for so long?"
No, because consumers (and Google) must be using Mobile Safari wrong.
2. downphoenix posted on 04 May 2012, 15:49 3 3
Apple is the one that should be sued. Google didnt intently exploit the bug, but Apple did intently ignore it for so long.
3. gwuhua1984 posted on 04 May 2012, 16:03 0 2
If Apple should be sued for allowing it, they won't be sued by the FTC, but by the end users because Apple allowed the bug to remain which made the user privacy vulnerable.
4. taco50 (banned) posted on 04 May 2012, 16:28 1 7
Wow google intentionally bypassed Safari's privacy features and you think Apple should be sued?
That's like someone breaks into my home and robs me and it's my fault because I didn't prevent it.
6. protozeloz posted on 04 May 2012, 16:58 4 1
Well of you leave the door open...... Also if it's the issue I recall Facebook and others where doing the same
9. Scott_H posted on 04 May 2012, 17:36 4 0
You totally missed the point - they DIDN'T intentionally bypass it. It was a bug in Safari where once a sign-in cookie is accepted (e.g. by Facebook or Google+) then any other cookie could piggy back on top of it. So lots of advertising cookies from lots of companies were tracking behavior of lots of people who used Facebook, Google+, etc. The only thing sin Google committed is that they happen to use both sign-in cookies and advertising cookies (but from two totally separate parts of their company).
14. remixfa posted on 04 May 2012, 21:21 4 0
to fit your analogy
You would have to leave your door open for over a year, let other people come in and do as they please, and then when you see Google enter.. aw heck, we will substitute google.. for.. ME.
So for over a year you let people come into your house as they please and take things they shouldnt. You know you should close the door, but you never do. Eventually I come into your house.. knowing that we dont get a long, you call the cops on me and try to have me arrested, yet you willfully ignore the fact that you have been well known to leave the door open and let everyone else take stuff. you also try to ignore the fact that you never closed the door like you should have and only close it AFTER the media comes and asks you questions about my arrest.
So in that situation, am I the ONLY party to blame? What about all the other people that came in? What about you for knowingly leaving the door open and watching everyone take your stuff? Thats an open invite.
Apple KNEW about this exploit for like a year and did nothing while dozens of other major companies used the same exploit. Its a simple exploit, they were making the +1 button work.. thats it. They were not stealing anything from Apple or users. Have you ever clicked the +1 button for facebook/G+/ or a dozen other services? you used the exploit!
18. mrochester (unregistered) posted on 06 May 2012, 08:53 0 0
Maybe Google should just have played it safe and not utilitised the exploit to begin with, then they wouldn't have got their fingers burned?
5. taco50 (banned) posted on 04 May 2012, 16:33 0 12
This is just one of the many scandals surrounding google and privacy. The other one in the news now is where they were driving around harvesting people's wireless data and then tried to block the investigation.
It goes to my point in the previous article that I would not trust google with my data.
To the author there was evidence of ill intent when they were collecting people's wifi data.
7. Whateverman posted on 04 May 2012, 17:30 5 0
Although some of what you said is true, it's important to remember a few things;
1. Google didn't intend to collect this data.
2. The data was collected from unprotected wifi networks. Those with password protection on the networks were safe.
3. The data collected was in very small portions because the cars were constantly on the move.
4. The data was erased by Google with a third party present.
8. Scott_H posted on 04 May 2012, 17:31 5 0
Sorry Taco, that's just not true. Google was collecting information on the location of Wi-Fi networks for navigation purposes - same information Skyhook or most any other navigation service uses. There was an error where data on unsecured networks (which ought to be password protected anyways) was being caught in snippits. The data was never transcribed into a readable format, it was Google who came forward when they discovered what had happened, and the FTC found they had not broken the law. What they did find was that Google was not fully cooperative with answering all of their personnel questions (for much the same reason as Apple not wanting Steve Jobs testimony to be made available to musicians) so they fined them $25,000 for being uncooperative.
To be sure, Google has made some flubs and poor choices (/cough Google Buzz) but there has never been serious evidence of malfeasance.
11. Non_Sequitur posted on 04 May 2012, 18:25 3 0
Thank you for proving taco wrong when I'm not here to do it.
12. dallas90733 posted on 04 May 2012, 18:58 3 0
Give my bud Taco a break, he's 0 for 4 today on his facts, rough day...hahahahah
15. remixfa posted on 04 May 2012, 21:23 2 0
i think the second number is a bit higher than that :)
13. maxican16 posted on 04 May 2012, 21:13 2 0
you're so brain washed, biased and fanatical about apple that I pity anyone who takes you seriously.