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Google engineers made to use gimped Nexus 4 with 512 MB of RAM when optimizing Android KitKat

0. phoneArena 27 Nov 2013, 02:19 posted on

The Android development team had to carry a castrated Nexus 4 as a daily driver until KitKat ran fluid on it. The device was with 512 MB of RAM and 540x960 pixels qHD display. This way, isolating the bad memory situations and reducing the system and Google Apps footprint, the Android engineering team managed to make a giant step towards reducing fragmentation, as now even low-end white box Chinese handsets, which very often ship with Gingerbread even, can now ship with the latest version of Android without their makers worrying about the phone's performance...

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posted on 27 Nov 2013, 02:29 11

1. Sniggly (Posts: 6480; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


This gave me a chuckle. It's such a brilliant and simple way to motivate the guys responsible for making Android slimmer, to force them to use the crippled Nexus 4 all the time. I imagine that after the 10th force close or so they stocked up on Mountain Dew and Kitkats and went to town, muttering many bad words to themselves the whole damn time, lol.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 02:29 3

2. pokharkarsaga (Posts: 346; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


Finally,its fun to use low end devices.only problem is skin overlay will still ruin performance.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 02:40

3. Sniggly (Posts: 6480; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


You're probably going to see minimal overlay on the lowest end devices, just like you do currently. Samsung is also trying to get people in its ranks to help redesign its software so it's a lot better.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 02:47 1

4. ScottSchneider (Posts: 279; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)


Nice Article... Kudos...o_0

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 03:23 1

5. techguyone (Posts: 91; Member since: 18 May 2013)


Samsung need to, their UI is ridiculous, they need to do like motorola did with blur and just lose it, and go stock 99% Android. It'll make a huge difference & will have the added side effect of not making their updates so prone to borkiness.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 03:34 3

6. JakeLee (Posts: 372; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


Does it matter? Nexus4 will be ditched maybe after 4.5 or so anyway, just like Galaxy Nexus with 4.3.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 04:21

7. 1701nino (Posts: 215; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


Exactly my point,i have a nexus 4 and im scared that this is the last official version that my device will support,although the hardware of the device is pretty powerful and able to run android 6.0 at least.And if the new kit kat is so efficient how come galaxy nexus wasn't supported???(don't tell me it's the chipset)
I think a lot of people see apple as "evil" and google as "good" but the truth is none of them are like that,they are in essence profit driven companies that will not hesitate to cut off millions of their customers who bought older hardware after 1 year.In my experience(i am an ios and android user) google is even worse at this then apple.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 06:22 3

13. indianapple89 (Posts: 47; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)


Sorry to burst your bubble but it is the chipset. It has a Texas Instruments OMAP based chipset and TI went out of the mobile business. With no support from the chipset manufacturer, it doesn't get it.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/31/google-galaxy-nexus-kitkat/

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 08:26

18. 1701nino (Posts: 215; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


They are marketing kit kat for way slower devices they should have gone through hell to make kit kat possible for GN.At least in my pointbof view.

posted on 28 Nov 2013, 00:28

27. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3649; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Google didn't make Kit Kat for older devices, they made Kit Kat for the low end devices of the future. It was just everyone's assumption (including my own) that Kit Kat would give new life to older devices, but that was sadly not true. Practically no SoC manufacturer supports their products from 2011 or earlier; Qualcomm has already dropped support for the Snapdragon S3, which was used in the U.S versions of the Galaxy S2, so it and any other phone using the Snapdragon S3 will not get another official major OS update unless the manufacturer (Samsung, HTC, LG, etc.) develops it themselves entirely, which is much more trouble than it's worth.

Your Nexus 4 with the S4 Pro will definitely see Android 5.0 (Kit Kat will be the last of the 4.x Android revisions) and most likely one or two updates after. It's hardware is much more future-proof than the Galaxy Nexus' was, and the fact that Qualcomm isn't out of the mobile business like Texas Instruments is helps a lot.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 07:36

14. meeaaoon (Posts: 15; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)


Its google policy to support phone till 18 months of phone production date and Galaxy Nexus is 2 years old.

I am sure even google is not supporting GN there will be penalty of custom ROM.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 08:28 1

19. Finalflash (Posts: 1128; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


Well your other option is iPhone which after the first free update will give you an update that cripples your phone. Then you are forced to update anyway. So at least thank google for not making your phone a lemon and letting you update when you want. Also, you can use customs if its really burning you. WP is no better, some of their year old devices aren't getting 8.1, so really, you're already with the best.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 04:38 1

9. rd_nest (Posts: 605; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


And they messed up the update like hell. I got the update last night, and installed it.

Then, BOOM! I am into a bootloop. For all their chest-thumping, they can't even handle a upgrade process properly.

I then had to waste time to recover the phone from a previous backup. Now, not updating it till they fix the issue.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 04:51

11. 1701nino (Posts: 215; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


Too bad,i have no issues with kit kat,i installed factory image at first the i got OTA update for the leatest firmware and i works 95% great except for a few reboots here and there.(by the way that never hapend on my ipad):)

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 04:33

8. YuLeven (Posts: 46; Member since: 14 May 2013)


After two years of quick updates to the newest version of Android, my US$299 high-end phone will be ditched from official support, albeit still having huge community support and a large array of custom roms.

Google, how dare you do this to me!

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 04:47

10. 1701nino (Posts: 215; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


Thats not the point,not every one wants a custom rom,why would they?On the ios side you have jailbreaking and all kinds off tweaks soo what.And by the way galaxy nexus was ditched just after 14 months thats not nearly 2 years smart a** :D and don't give me that bull about you having custom roms because every major company should support their devices at least 2 years,my old iphone 3gs was suported for 3 years.And nexus 4 and 5 in most countries around the globe don't cost that cheap.I paid mine in Croatia around 530 dollars.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 07:55 2

15. sum182 (Posts: 217; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


You can't compair iOS and android updates. While your iphone may have been "supported" for three years, after the 1st year, you receive an upgrade, but they strip features from the firmware for you. Thats not a real upgrade. You get maybe some bug fixes, and with iOS 7, the new Theme. Where on android, if you get the upgrade, you get everything it has to offer, nothing striped out. Sorry, but getting everything to work will naturally take longer than removing everything you can't get to work right away, then passing it off as an upgrade.

Also, you can't compare Jailbreaking to Rooting/flashing Roms, Its FAR from the same thing lol. Jailbreaking an iPhone makes it a little more like android with some of the tweaks you can do, but even still, its limited (show me the day where i can use it as mass storage!!). Flashing ROMS, your literally replacing the system, everything on it except the bootloader and recovery. It allows you to change pretty much everything. It adds dev support and a community that you can contact directly anytime, unlocks features and options (more than android already has surprisingly), and honestly, its faster updates. I already have 4.4 on my Droid DNA (yea, the one that should still be on 4.2) And it works perfectly.

Finally, go ahead and get mad that Google can't support the phone because the CHIP MANUFACTURER WENT OUT OF BUSINESS!!!! They can't do anything about it lol If you want 4.4, flash a ROM, they're already out. You can't blame Google because a company went out of business. I wouldn't worry about your Nexus 4, it will be supported longer.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 08:24

17. 1701nino (Posts: 215; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


Listen man i get your point,but you're wrong,you said when android phone gets updated i gets all the cookies, you have no idea.Android kit kat for N4 is a stripped down version,its got no new google experience launcher, basicly it looks like jellybean(i'm talking about stock vanilla rom not custom ones),and again not everyone wants to use a custom rom(or knows how to flash it). On my 3GS the first two big updates gave me everything.
Oh and for galaxy nexus users they should made the drivers or whatever(the customer doesn't care what the problem is).

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 09:19

21. AfterShock (Posts: 1256; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


What is stripped out other then GEL?
Art? Have that.
Pay by tag, have that.

Which (GEL) is expected to be released for it and other phones.

His point stands IMO.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 09:39

22. 1701nino (Posts: 215; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


Everybody's got the right to their own opinions but again as a ios user and android user i saw both side of the coin,and i must say i like the security and stability of ios(maybe cause i'm gettin older),my N4 had 4 reboots just in the last 2 weeks,that never happend to my any ios device.
Oh and by the way GEL is the only visual difference to tell appart jellybean and kit kat.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 08:31

20. 1701nino (Posts: 215; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


Oh and by the way i can compare ios jailbreaking with custom roms for android,jesus mass storage tweak for iphone has been on cydia for years.I've seen people do tweaks for ios that could shame android no sweat.
Just because you can change roms for android doesn't make better.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 11:09

23. sum182 (Posts: 217; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


lawl you assume i just used android. I've used both, had an iPhone for 2yrs before leaving and never looking back. Its not true mass storage, as you need iTunes still to move/add anything. What are these tweaks that put android to shame btw? lol

And just download the GEL apk and install it....i know, its hard

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 13:52

26. 1701nino (Posts: 215; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


And you assume too much,already have N5 launcher, but don't say you get everything out of the box with every new version of android.You're just a fanboy that doesn't want to admit the facts.

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 05:05

12. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2096; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


Nice testing..

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 07:56 2

16. sum182 (Posts: 217; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


That a great way to fully test the memory usage haha. Pretty clever and shows they're willing to do what it takes (well....idk if willing would be the word, but they didn't quit =P)

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 11:36

24. mike2959 (Posts: 155; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)


Android vanilla? Is it truly vanilla anymore? Google is integrated more of their once either non existing apps, to having a choice, to now unless you root and custom ROM it I'm stuck with maps, stuck with Google Now, stuck with Google +, I understand I can download other apps if I don't likethose, but I DON'T WANT THOSE. I love Android... Rocking the G2, but man it doesn't seem much different than not being able to delete that B**ch SIRI....

posted on 27 Nov 2013, 11:40

25. mike2959 (Posts: 155; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)


The other thing is The reason for the 512K operating system is for Future Low end, Chinese made phones. Don't think OEM's, or even the NEXUS phones from the Galaxy NEXUS backwards will be getting Kitkat any time soon.

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