Google confirms blocking new YouTube app for Windows Phone
0. phoneArena 15 Aug 2013, 13:40 posted on
Two days ago, Microsoft released an updated version of its YouTube app for Windows Phone, and at the time, it was assumed that the app had the approval of Google, because the two companies had supposedly been working together on the new app. Yesterday, there were some unexplained errors hitting the new app. And today, Google has confirmed that it is once again blocking the YouTube app for Windows Phone...
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23. akki20892 (Posts: 2667; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Fight is always end. Stop the fight, shake hands both of you and make happy relationship, so people can enjoy your services damn it.
59. james004 (Posts: 441; Member since: 15 May 2013)
the HTML 5 is so unpractical, dont know why google loves it so much.
this app was great. now it even showed ads from google.
google just doesnt want microsoft mobile system to grow.
75. joey_sfb (Posts: 1973; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
HTML 5 is an open standard while Trident the standard use in IE is proprietary.
M$ has been holding the internet standard bodies hostage over the use of IE for decades and it finally has to stop.
Open standards level the playing field and keeps innovation coming regardless from where.
79. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5645; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
and stop the LAW SUITS that's the first thing everyone should do.
26. sharks (Posts: 164; Member since: 16 Feb 2013)
Microsoft messed up. Again. They need to start following Google's Terms of Service. It doesn't matter what work they do with their Windows version of the YouTube app. Just stick to the rules! Apparently, MS thinks it's above everyone else... No wonder their Windows Phone OS has failed to gain any traction in the market (what Nokia has done is just push through the mud with their Lumia efforts to back up MS and ended up with MS, both knee-deep into sh*t)
2. MartyK (Posts: 669; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
Nope, it's all on MS; if you want excess to someone serves you need to make sure you are in Compliance with their policy and rules...smh, THEY HAVE RULES MICROSOFT, FOLLOW THERE RULES!!
8. FadyNabil (Posts: 36; Member since: 10 May 2013)
i have the right to access youtube without annoying ads,
it's all on google.
I wish microsoft re-release the old app, which i think cannot be blocked and let google hit the wall
58. deathgod (Posts: 107; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
"I have the right to access YouTube without annoying ads" YouTube belongs to Google and they make their money from ads. You don't like the ads? Use an adblocker , its what I do.
60. taz89 (Posts: 1948; Member since: 03 May 2011)
The only reason sites like YouTube is free is because of ads.. you don't have the right to use googles property the way they want..if you don't agree with it don't use it, its that simple.. Today's world everyone thinks they have right to do whatever.
80. Shatter (Posts: 1766; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Youtube revolves around ads.
Partners and Google make money from ads. If you have no ads there is very little money coming in, almost all the partners would leave and then youtube would die after they couldn't afford the servers.
97. willard12 (Posts: 553; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Where is this "right" in the Constitution?
45. networkdood (Posts: 5538; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Chaoticrazor is an ifan, so he has automatic bias. Not all MS products are available for Android, BTW. There is no Microsoft mail app, but you can the email account and it will act like a gmail account. YouTube is Google property, so MS fans need to stop whining as I am sure this will all change soon.
76. SleepingOz (Posts: 2479; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
Exactly! What goes around, comes around.. Hahah!
5. JojoGo101 (Posts: 211; Member since: 17 Dec 2012)
This is all messed up. There should be OFFICIAL applications for Instagram, Gmail, Google+, Google Maps etc. Doesn't Google want more people in the world connected to the web? Gmail and Google maps are used everywhere and for many it is a must.
7. sri_tech (Posts: 184; Member since: 21 May 2013)
Thats an app no one asked. I agree about other apps you mentioned though. Gmail will work with default mail app.
84. lyndon420 (Posts: 1641; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Google probably has more services available across more platforms than symbian-blackberry-apple-microsoft combined. It just makes sense to go with android if the full google experience is required. (apple has been very slow at releasing their apps to other platforms, so IMO google has the right to pull the reigns in a little)
9. terabyteRouser (Posts: 407; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Dude, what term of service did they violate?
93. DFranch (Posts: 129; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
They won't tell them that, it's like being in a fight with your wife, when you don't even know what you did wrong.
17. boosook (Posts: 774; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Why? They're just responding to microsoft 's "scroogled" campaign...
33. DANTExphone888 (Posts: 91; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
I agree, if your gonna call people out, then Microsoft Windows Phone 8 doesn't deserve YouTube. I hope they never get a YouTube app for hating on Google. BTW Microsoft, GO MAKE YOUR OWN YOUTUBE LIKE SERVICE!!!
72. Credo (Posts: 677; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)
Why does Google play like a little child, they forget that they were nothing without Microsoft !!! Guck Foogle !!
88. shuaibhere (Posts: 902; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
will you tell how google is nothing without microsoft???
19. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3657; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Yes, God forbid Google force Microsoft to obey their rules to a service that they own. The nerve!
11. terabyteRouser (Posts: 407; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
here is another peculiar question. "Microsoft has not made the browser upgrades necessary to enable a fully-featured YouTube experience" ... They go on to say "We value our broad developer community and therefore ask everyone to adhere to the same guidelines". How is this a serious position if no other developer has to upgrade a browser to release an app? How many developers are producing browsers where they are incumbent to make these upgrades? Sounds like crap to me.
12. toondewachter (Posts: 52; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
The problem is that Microsoft needs to make adaptations to their browser apparantly. And we all know how quick they are at developing their OS... This could take two more centuries.
This BS is why I started to hate Windows Phone, which I loved so much first. Microsoft: you fail big time! If you want Windows Phone to be a success, you should get your chops up and start working really hard to bring all the apps users want to your platform and you should do this really fast. Yesterday was too late already!
And work on that OS a little quicker too!
55. Pdubb (Posts: 237; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
That is a peculiar stance with Youtube being a Google product.
14. papss (Posts: 3439; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Wow google showing how petty they are again. Didn't they okay this all before the release? What a bunch of Peter puffers
89. shuaibhere (Posts: 902; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
it's actually other way around....why MS didn't ask google before releasing this????
15. PhoneCritic (Posts: 331; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
If , as an OEM, I have to pay a licensing fee and adhere to the licensing agreement to provide MS office on my hardware but most importantly MS must write a version of MS office for my Hardware I would be in violation of the licensing agreement if I made my own MS office app and pushed it as such to my customers. MS just needs to follow the rules as the require everyone to follow their rules ( whats good for the Goose is good for the Gander).
What is surprising here is that u tube is a Google core service that does not come with Android standard you must licence it from Google with stipulations and sanctions.
MS should understand this period!!! Just agree to Google's terms for their product. It is not covered under any FRAN act.
16. boosook (Posts: 774; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Microsoft is continuously attacking Google with the "Scroogled" campaign, how should Google behave with them? Can you be kind with someone that attacks you every day?
18. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
justify google doing something you would criticize others for doing- pathetic
first off the scroogle crap was marketing and all do this, all attack others whether its indirectly or not. difference here is google a company that preach they care for the customers are stopping people having basic services. services run by user uploads and that google bought not created.
why does peoples attitude suddenly change when its google been awkward. evil never applies to google in your fanboy eyes does it. you paste every other company with it for less then this
61. taz89 (Posts: 1948; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Maybe Microsoft should meet the guidelines, clearly they desperate for the YouTube app so why not just follow googles rules.. Its there service, Microsoft wants it, it should be Microsoft doing everything properly to get YouTube instead of violating ...I agree with you that it's a user based service and therefore it should be everywhere but Google pays for all the back end stuff so when someone wants to usethere service they should follow there rules... everything has rules and if you don't abide then it's your fault.
86. tech2 (Posts: 1318; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Oops .....looks like someone banned your comment ! XD..........troll less and learn some grammar while you are at it :)
20. Penny (Posts: 988; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
It sounds to me like Google only wants Microsoft to be able to release an app that is just a wrapped up version of YouTube on Internet Explorer, while Microsoft wants a native app.
Would suck if Google is just trying to make sure Microsoft only has a browser version.
24. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4601; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
While Google and Microsoft are fighting, WP users suffers.
25. Gagi990 (Posts: 1; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Screw Google! Really not fair what they are doing. Had I president of Microsoft would block all applications for android.Google blocking applications and then Microsoft should just do a Google, to block all applications for android now. Google because Microsoft do not I make application, and it bothers them
35. protozeloz (Posts: 5328; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
You know MS blocking services like hotmail or bing from android will only make people use gmail and Google search even more
I had a hotmaile account with a fairly amount of work mail long ago now all its on my work gmail because there was no official outlook client for android for pike 3 years in a row... Then it was a horrible POS for 1 year now I just find gmail convenient for nearly anything
53. papss (Posts: 3439; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Theirs this thing called outlook bud... People use it for work.
63. protozeloz (Posts: 5328; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
3 years ago outlook was a service that came with office, for email management now its the new word for hotmail...
Also how your post works against mine?
27. valapsp (Posts: 442; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
how about paying Google to make an app themselves?
39. -box- (Posts: 3566; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
That'd require them learning how to make a decent app on a good platform.
28. ahhxd717 (Posts: 300; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)
I don't understand why Microsoft needs to made upgrades to their browser in order for the app to be ok. I guess I don't fully understand what's wrong with the app in the first place that makes it violate the Terms of Service.
31. protozeloz (Posts: 5328; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
It blocked YouTube ads witch is the way for YouTube partners to obtain funds, and allowed for non mobile enabled content to be displayed
That's as far as I can remember
94. DFranch (Posts: 129; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
No the new one allowed ads, and google blocked it anyway.
29. Finalflash (Posts: 1136; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
I don't see what the problem is here. I don't see any amazing Microsoft or Apple products on any other platform especially Android. Google could easily copy and create their own version of Microsoft office and iStudio or whatever but then ms and apple would have problems. When ms does release office for droid in 2022, they can get a YouTube app. This is the same situation and more justified. For that matter, Microsoft and apple both use patents from the age of dinosaurs (when they were good little start ups themselves) to hinder google, android and others so why the hell cant google use legit products as weapons. And on the consistency note, they are right to block it if it doesn't meet their guidelines. If tmr ms starts showing 10 ads per video, then ppl will hate Google for it. They are well within their rights to block it.
46. networkdood (Posts: 5538; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
A copy of MS office, rather clone, is already on Google play...several matter of fact. I use Kingsoft Office...free.
95. DFranch (Posts: 129; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
Google has google docs, they probably don't want office apps on android.
30. clevername (Posts: 1407; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
What tos are they violating? Its got to be either the ads or the videos that can't be seen on mobile. Because downloads are gone.
34. tucutucu (Posts: 48; Member since: 03 Aug 2013)
Hmmmm...G00gle's showing its real intentions. Angry cuz of Bing??? Imma duckduckgo this battlestory from the start... o.O
38. DANTExphone888 (Posts: 91; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
This is Microsoft fault for make that scroogled campaign.
40. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
Keep running Scroogled ads and see how long it takes to get a Youtube app on your WP platform.