Google blocking Windows Phone from maps.google.com
0. phoneArena 04 Jan 2013, 17:15 posted on
Google refuses to build some of its apps for Windows Phone models, like YouTube for instance, but now the Mountain View based tech titan has taken things a step farther by blocking Windows Phone 7.5 and Windows Phone 8 users from accessing its maps.google.com web site; even if your phone's browser is set to desktop, trying to load the site will result in you being re-directed to Google's mobile search page...
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62. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)
No, becouse you are ignorant. I am the fan of msofts work, but not a troll sir...
65. MeoCao (unregistered)
if you are fine w/o Google that's your business. And remember to tell that to MS so they stop demanding Google's services.
70. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)
Well i am not actually talking about gmaps, i couldnt care less. I am talking about youtube, which google did not make they bought it, and then restricted acess to wp users, this my friend is illegal in most countries.
How would android users feel if msoft blocked skype usage on android phones? instead msoft is pushing updates to android tablets which make the service even better at no charge.
72. MeoCao (unregistered)
Google does not restrict WP access to Youtube, you can use it on browsers I guess.
I don't use Skype but I think MS makes money off Skype. I think MS has the right to withdraw Skype from Android, that will make many people unhappy but that's MS right.
MS makes Skype and read-only Office available on Android only to serve MS business and not b-c of some kind of goodwill to Android users.
I think if Skype leaves Android its replacements will appear in no time and will surpass Skype very quickly.
92. Android4u (Posts: 456; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)
Lol oh now I'm ignorant...well little boy you sound like a troll to me .."all other os camps wish they had the sleekness of wp". Uh huh sure.....well u have fun on your lame ass os. Damn I love jelly bean
51. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
what didn't you know? That there are many people using WP? hmm. I guess, you're blind. It's nothing compared to android, but still, there are many users in WP platform
59. MeoCao (unregistered)
MS is a predator and now it plays the role of victim. where is Netscape now? and many other big ideas that were stolen or strangled by MS dirty tricks.
WP is a near death platform and survives only on MS life support.
Too bad MS cannot rely on their monopolistic power here.
20. Sniggly (Posts: 6217; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
There's something deeper here. How do we know Google is the culprit? What is their motivation if they are?
22. raphz (Posts: 35; Member since: 22 Oct 2012)
google is new evil, microsoft must ban chrome and other google product from windows
37. shuaibhere (Posts: 593; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
You are saying google is evil and praising microsoft?????
go have some mental treatment..
48. talon95 (Posts: 50; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
I'm sorry but when people ask that microsoft put limitation on what we the consumer can do with the OS they are clearly not trying make a logical argument and just trolling. It's google's product and they can support who they wish but I'm betting that when windows has more than 2% of the market they will consider it.
33. romeoc1984 (Posts: 19; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
Google is starting to realize that Microsoft is a real threat and has activated hate mode on them!
34. rajagopalan.k (Posts: 34; Member since: 17 Dec 2012)
looks like this post is a strategic attack on google by the microsoft's SCROOGLED crew.
afterall they openly admitted on making things as if it look like google is the villan.
35. JeffPom (unregistered)
But (read on Gizmodo - and in your comments section below...)
The reason is Google maps is designed for Webkit-based browsers. IE mobile is not such a browser.
40. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 612; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Too many anti Google people in here, I wonder why Google doesn't support MS OS...perhaps it's because Google maps for mobile never supported IE. Perhaps MS should use WebKit to build IE and not their proprietary software. MS does not support open source which WebKit is part of the community of open source, of course MS defense force will say Google is blocking MS...Google likes money and advertising means dollars so blocking there stuff on Windows OS is dumb.
I don't even use IE, haven't in ages because it's spyware heaven, so I tend to use different browsers Firefox, Chrome and others.
89. -box- (Posts: 3470; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
You're joking about IE, right? It's current and recent (8+) iterations are among the most secure and stable browsers available. Safari and Firefox are like Swiss cheese in comparison.
41. big.e927 (Posts: 94; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)
Google provides a much more comprehensive, easy to use, and state of the art OS for users to manage than WP ever will. Microsoft is competition, yes, but it isn't Google's biggest concern. Google is sticking it to Microsoft for constantly and never missing a chance to talk s**t about Google. Not even ios talks as much crap about Google or anybody for that matter like Microsoft. Google-Android is an open OS, but Microsoft got it f**ked up when they thought that after all the trouble that they've caused with accusations of antitrust, they Google would just roll over and be begging to offer their apps to WP. Yeah... That's what kind of mentality you have when your head is shoved far up your ass.lol
42. lubba (Posts: 1309; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
The question is, why today? How come it worked yesterday or even last month? Webkit my ass!!!
45. tumchaaditya (Posts: 54; Member since: 21 May 2012)
I don't understand whats the big deal?!
Google is going to benefit if more people use their services..
And they are fighting with the "fruit company" over many issues...still they support their platform...
People are suffering because of this "so-called" rivalry..
I have always viewed Google as a company that cared more about users than some bulls**t rivalry..
and considering Google technical capabilities, supporting another browser engine should be a piece of cake for them...anyways the desktop version supports the Trident engine..
61. haseebzahid (Posts: 1722; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
only aim of google is to destroy competetion no matter what is costs and others have done it in past too. but google looks to go beyond just destroying others they are looking for total control of market with no other competetor left which is extemlely bad for moblie future
this is all because they cant provide good enough services like others do crapy thing from them so make it open so other fanboys and pros can fix them outside the company while apple and MS are busy making a full service from their own company google cant run very far with this style , first make crap then say its free to use and to debug and u can fix it your self
46. SmartPhoneStream (Posts: 154; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
If google refuses to support windows phone Microsoft should block access To google on windows, if that's not possible than they should block it on ie
49. itguyinto (Posts: 6; Member since: 18 Nov 2012)
It does not work on the blackberry playbook too ... And rim sold about 2mill of those. Who knows if it will work on bb10.
55. shreyas.s666 (Posts: 74; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
i think WP users don't need to worry about it.they have bing search,bing maps.if someone have Nokia they have nokia maps. as simple..
56. jibraihimi (Posts: 482; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
So long for 'do no evil'.......... Google is showing it's true motto now, 'do evil'......... But WP users don't need google maps, they already have better alternative in form of Nokia maps.........
60. haseebzahid (Posts: 1722; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
yes nokia maps are detailed and accurate much more but in some countries they dont offer any map like mine only main highways which they have other reasons like lack of security for their employees and gov regulations google maps is only good to fill those gaps
101. cdgoin (Posts: 336; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)
Not just Nokia Apps, the native WP maps program is good too.. Actually to be honest, other than the downloading for off network use. I find the MS version better.
57. shreyas.s666 (Posts: 74; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
Oh come on ppl,stop worshiping Google for every thing they do.why do google needs to support maps for apple?why only after nokia and several companies started developing maps for apple?stop being a fanboy.
58. haseebzahid (Posts: 1722; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
this is plain madness having grudges againt each other like 2 year old kids
64. Awsan (Posts: 7; Member since: 04 Jan 2013)
Who needs Google Maps when you have Nokia maps
66. Leo_MC (Posts: 371; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
In Europe Google wont be able to do such a dumb thing.
71. parkwaydr (Posts: 571; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
Wow. Come on guys I know there are people here that are more intelligent than their comments show. Its a WebKit issue . Ie mobile isn't WebKit based. Google makes money off of ads. Why would they purposely block another revenue alley?
74. jroc74 (Posts: 3459; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
You are asking ppl that hate for the sake of hating to be rationale....you will have better luck trying to win the lottery...lol.
maps.google.com didnt work....but an alternate url did...and ppl are looking at that as Google blocking access to maps overall. THEN...the uk site was the full desktop version...did anyone even check to see if the US url worked for the desktop version of IE on WP ?
Of course.....ppl wont look at that....some will just find a way to hate for the sake of hating. Its cool tho....many pro Android folks hate on Apple for no reasons too....pro WP folks, etc. It is what it is.
"The mobile web version of Google Maps is optimized for WebKit browsers such as Chrome and Safari. However, since Internet Explorer is not a WebKit browser, Windows Phone devices are not able to access Google Maps for the mobile web."
Keywords: webkit amd mobile.
83. parkwaydr (Posts: 571; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
Its just funny. I mean look at it this way. If Google were purposely blocking competitors, then why does iOS have access. I think Google would block iOS first before they would even bother with wp.
106. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 262; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
When you try to access the full website version of Google maps on IE for WP, google redirects you to the mobile version of Google. This happens every time. Its more than just a webkit issue. I personally don't care, as I have never used Google maps and the Nokia Maps/Drive combo does just fine for me. I bear no ill will towards Google, but it does seem as if they are intentionally blocking it.
108. jroc74 (Posts: 3459; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Some browsers....you have to put it in Desktop Mode. Is that available for IE on WP? Like on my Android phone....it will always bring up the desktop version of Yahoo Sports unless I manually switch to Desktop Mode or version.
85. newlife1 (Posts: 1; Member since: 05 Jan 2013)
Almost everyone here sounds ignorant. For one, I've been able to use Google maps on my HD7 since 2010. I was also able to use it a few months ago also on my sec Gen WP. Never tried on wp8, but for people to actually agree that its a "webkit" problem is totally clueless. All you people are ass kissers because you go to bed with google products. I for one never disliked Google, and I do know about Microsoft's practices, but Microsoft is definitely doing more than Google or Apple when it comes to supplying Apps. Apple should be the only company never to have anyone else appssunce they don't have anything good anyway.
The trident engine is definitely a faster rendering more compliant browser then some others. Google is digging an expensive grave if all of this is found to be malicious.
since they made these moves, I have totally moved away from Google services. Microsoft lobbying, Google lobbying, everyone is evil in some way, Google just not to shy nowadays.
91. jroc74 (Posts: 3459; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Maybe....just maybe....there is something in WP8 that doesnt make it work or work as well vs WP7? Its not about being in bed or lusting after a company...its about stepping out and looking at the bigger picture.
How about a poll of ppl that used it on WP before and after WP8 came out. When a guy changed something in the user agent....it redirected to the desktop version...that points more to a mobile version issue than out right blocking. I have to use Desktop mode for Yahoo Sports on my Android phone....because the mobile version sucks. Maybe the mobile version of Google Maps isnt too good on WP8?
100. cdgoin (Posts: 336; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)
No one I know that had WP used Google Maps anyway.. since Mango the native App was awesome to the point it wasn't worth trying to figure a way to use Google Maps anyway. Personally in over a year the native app has never let me down.. works awesome.
109. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 262; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
The problem is that it forces you into the mobile version when you try to view it in desktop mode. That means it has been specifically coded to do so.
86. Mozarrt (Posts: 285; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
Has Apple ever stooped this low?
I know I'm risking lots of thumbs down for "hating" on Google but this is a very very disgusting move, the company is on a crusade against Windows Phone, they act like they are innocence themselves but in the mean time they are the most evil ("don't be evil") company in the world.
Because of this I'm also stopping with using Google services, luckily Apple and Microsoft offer most services just as good.
An absolute disgrace.
99. cdgoin (Posts: 336; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)
Google I think is taking their place a little hard.. and not realizing what they are doing now was the downfall of Apple in the PC market in the 90s and MS in the Mobile world in the last part of the 00s.. Acting like they are is a quick way to get everyone to change their opinion of them, as drop as fast that rose..
87. asingha94 (Posts: 220; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)
nokia maps ftw...i dont need google maps!
88. -box- (Posts: 3470; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Why would anyone want to use Google's maps on Windows Phone anyway? Bing and Nokia maps (becoming almost the same thing) is superior in every way I use them, excepting Street View, and that I only use on desktop since I have Nokia City Lens
95. jroc74 (Posts: 3459; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I just posted about this in that other article. Some folks are not thinking clearly.
Lets say Google is blocking it. Doesnt that help Bing Maps and Nokia Maps? I can see if Google was blocking Bing Maps on Android, but they are not. This actually helps MS. Isnt that what the pro WP folks want? WP to have advantages? If everybody on WP used Google Maps...whats the use of Bing Maps, Nokia Maps?
If you wanna use Google Maps and you on WP.....right now you cant. To me....the success of WP and MS services might be bigger than users using Google services.
97. cdgoin (Posts: 336; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)
Who cares..? Bing Maps with voice directions is AWESOME, and Nokia Drive is no slouch.. MS (UNLIKE Apple) doesn't need google maps.
If Google wants to play this game I am sure MS can make Skype not work so well with Android..
Too me sounds like Google feels threatened by WP taking a good chunk of its sales over the holiday season.
102. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Looks like google followed in apple's footsteps. The feel threatened so they start using messy gimickry. Blocking youtube, google maps...coincidence? Heck, no.
Do it google and you will be preceived as the successor to cupertino team.
Losing shares will be just a matter of time. people don't like to be told what to do or what to buy.
Look at Nokia. They're going to share with their maps. They're preparing it even for IOS.
112. networkdood (Posts: 4749; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
you need to read more on this...thanks
103. parikshit.shah (Posts: 1; Member since: 06 Jan 2013)
Now Google feeling heat of Nokia Lumia.
107. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 262; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
Google, Microsoft, Apple.... it doesn't matter which company we are referring to. All of these companies are going to make decisions based of what could potentially make them the most money. While each one of them have their own unique approach to this, none of them is above using underhanded methods to improve their position. They all make money from the competition because of patents that they own. They all hope to become the dominant force in every service that they offer. None of them are good/evil, they are all just companies trying to make money.
110. networkdood (Posts: 4749; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
'it now seems that Internet Explorer never did support the site. '
Good old MS