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Google asked the media to play down Google Play "flaw"

0. phoneArena 16 Feb 2013, 23:27 posted on

You might recall that last week we told you that Google appears to hand over your personal information to the developer with each purchase of an app from the Google Play Store; the original story was published by the News.com.au web which later amended by the site at the request of Google which had an issue with the use of the word 'flaw' in the original headline...

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posted on 17 Feb 2013, 05:19 4

13. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


Do no evil eh?

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 07:18 3

16. tedkord (Posts: 12717; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


You're right. I always order stuff online without having to give my name or address.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 09:31

20. papss (unregistered)


The point is that I give that info... Google has zero rights to my personal information..just because I have a relationship with my wife doesn't mean I want google doing the same. Again google shouldn't be allowed to do that..., but its alright if all you android fans think its okay right? Because you speak for all people? Stop acting like this is okay since it's google and they would NEVER do something devient.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 09:52 1

28. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Three words; Terms of Service. If you are really against this information, you should have not of agreed to them. Just know, this is a standard for all payments. Unless you pay with everything through cash or gift cards, this happens all the time.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 09:57 1

30. papss (unregistered)


No it's not.. Farming out my information is not common practice.. I've never been watched or some intrusive ad popped up when using my apple product.. Never have I had intrusive adds no calls from telemarketer when using bing or outlook.., do I get it with google? Sure do... That to me is scummy

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 11:37

37. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Ok...now I know you are just full of it....cuz I get ads using outlook.com. In fact....its better than hotmail....cuz its text ads now....hotmail was picture ads. I guess you are gonna say you never get ads with hotmail too, huh?

Again....we get the exact same info about the developer. But you and others keep complaining about ...your...info. The developers info is less important than yours? I know good n well many developers work from home. What if you all of a sudden became an Android developer tomorrow....

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 11:49

41. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


If you arent getting ads in outlook.com...its because you changed something in your settings....the exact same thing can be done in GMail.

The exact same thing was available in hotmail.com.

But...lets not let facts and the truth get in the way of MS's Scroogled campaign.....in hotmail and outlook.com...it was personalized based on browsing and search history. On that subject....I didnt get personalized ads in GMail...it was sponsored ads from specific companies. Guess I took care of that in the Settings already....

Scroogled...indeed....

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 11:32

36. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


"The point is that I give that info... Google has zero rights to my personal information."

If thats the case.....then dont setup an account and use Google Wallet...problem solved. One can keep entering the payment method manually each time they wanna buy something. No wallet info....shouldnt be a problem to get free apps. I know this because someone I know doesnt even have a credit card linked to the Play Store....and she has no problems gettign free apps.

I had her just try to login to Wallet. She couldnt even do it...because the last time she did the TOS changed. And she has no credit card linked to her account.

I had her just try to buy something from the Play Store....and she had to enter a payment method....after credit card info...it needed at least the name and zip code.

Thats....why.....this.....a.....non....story.

But I guess Apple having it is fine tho, right? Even in the original aerticle...the developer said all he gets when using iTunes is country and something else. Do you think for a minute Apple doesnt have the rest of the info?

But hey....its fine for us to get the developer's info, right? Or its only a problem becuse they gets ours? Whose to say some user wont go to their place, harass them?

Thats...also....why....this....is.....a....non....​.story.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 11:46

39. papss (unregistered)


Yes I could care less about the developers personal info but you seem to go by the fact that google play is full of garbage spam programs and for you to say they are reputable is laughable at best.. Google has no quality control on play so that leaves it wide open for anyone to pretend to be a developer.. Not that common sense wouldn't stop me to say said program doesn't look right.. Point being stop defending something that's not secure and saying there is no security risk.. I don't trust google has my best interest in mind

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 11:52

42. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Wow....I dont even have to go back and re read anything I posted to know you are drinking some good stuff right now.

Please .....go back and quote me where I said anything about:

Yes I could care less about the developers personal info but you seem to go by the fact that google play is full of garbage spam programs and for you to say they are reputable is laughable at best

and:

Point being stop defending something that's not secure and saying there is no security risk.

Take your time...

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 12:18 1

44. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


One more thing...does Apple App store still require you to have a credit card to setup or use it....even for free apps...you still have to jump thru hoops to set it up without a credit card....

I dont know if you still do...asking a real question....

Funny cuz that has never been a requirement to use Google's store...if every Android user on the planet didnt have a credit card...they could still use the Google store and get free apps....from day one.

Security risks.....they are everywhere.....its par for the course for eCommerce.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 12:30 1

45. papss (unregistered)


I'm by no means an apple fan but the walled garden keeps me feeling more secured. I don't and won't own a iPhone but I do have an iPad and use the App Store. To answer your question, no the App Store does not require a cc to use.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 12:38 2

46. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


You don't need a credit card, but you still need an Apple ID, which contains email, address, name, and number and also a credit card if you want to put it on there. You use your Apple ID to download/purchase apps.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 05:37 2

14. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


So....let me ask ppl this:

Ever use Ebay? Know the auctions where ppl sell info, or making money ideas? Most of the time...that can be emailed to the person. So...whats the need for a physical address, right?

You put in your address when setting up an account. Are you gonna keep editing it each n every time you win an auction that involves electronic delivery of the item?

Are the ppl complaining ....ever buy or sell anything online? Just curious...

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 09:37

23. papss (unregistered)


The difference is that there are fake and garbage apps that can and will get out to anyone that wants it... Just like the scammers on Craig's list that create a fake google phone number without resistance thanks to googles lax policies and people scam others with " I'm going to mail you a check With this amount and I want you to mail the remainder amount here"... Stop living on one dimension people.. It's is wrong period

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 11:01 1

34. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


The exact same thing can and does happen with Ebay.

Where is the article about Ebay...

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 11:08

35. papss (unregistered)


Oh so that makes it all better

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 11:39 1

38. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Doesnt make it better....just shows this is a non story. Ebay and Paypal....big chance to get scammed. Many ppl still use it tho.

Welcome to eCommerce.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 11:48

40. papss (unregistered)


Again... So say its not good versus saying its alright.. One wrong doesn't mean it opens the gate for everyone to do that and it's okay

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 12:03 2

43. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Ok...never said its alright. Please re read my posts again....

I'm saying its par for the course...welcome to eCommerce. There is always some risk involed with eCommerce. Thats why some ppl dont use it at all.

Do you think scammers on Ebay stopped me from using Ebay? or PayPal? Has it really hurt both businesses? What ppl are over looking is if some wrong doing does happen, how easy is it to identify the problem, get it fixed? How much does wrong doing happens?

Those are the bigger questions and concerns ppl need to have. Again...if one is so worried.....there are ways to not be involved.....do everything manually with Google.

Problem solved.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 06:03 2

15. GoBears (Posts: 451; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


Omg, my name and address plus my email address? How awful. Guess I better leave 5 stars or the dev will come beat me up at home.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 10:00

31. papss (unregistered)


Lol pretty funny

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 08:29 3

18. ronjr123 (Posts: 86; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


This is ludicris. This is no flaw, at least not in the US. Standard practice when purchasing something online. That is why you should always be confident with who you are dealing when making a purchase in cyber space. I only shop at the main outlets on the web and never places like ebay. Ebay gives me the creeps, not Google.

Wanna bet apple does the same thing?

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 08:38 1

19. roscuthiii (Posts: 2227; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Weird... you mean to tell me customers via a digital market had their customer information sent to a content/product developer/provider via an electronic medium?!

That's crazy talk there. It's like some time a while back someone invented these machines that could be used to compute data or perform some kind of programmed task, and then created a bridge between these machines in which they could communicate through an interconnected network! Like a world wide web, if you will.
And people have been using that convenience to their advantage disregarding consequence of actions for the sake of said convenience ever since?
Do all the major newspapers outlets know about this yet?

What?! They're all moving to this weird "inter-net" thingy too?! A conspiracy I tell you, a conspiracy.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 09:39 1

24. papss (unregistered)


If this were anyone but google you all would be all over them.. One sided tree you live on

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 10:55 1

33. bparkerson (unregistered)


It's not so much what's written but how it's interpreted!

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 12:45

47. darkkjedii (Posts: 22482; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


You're playing it wrong. Now I sound like a typical droider.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 15:19

50. AWiseGuy (Posts: 68; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


Well it really isn't a flaw. Does that make it ok? No, and I'd like Google to change this. I love using Android and I want to do so securely. However, just because this isn't the best practice doesn't give the media any right to mislead and misrepresent the facts.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 15:35 1

51. lyndon420 (Posts: 4664; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


No different if you had to go each and every developer's website to pay for an online service using a credit card. Nothing is really secret about us common folk. I like doing my payments online for the convenience it offers, but even going to each place in person to pay bills doesn't keep anything from getting online after it's left your hands.

posted on 17 Feb 2013, 20:12

53. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


"No different if you had to go each and every developer's website to pay for an online service using a credit card."

This needs to be repeated, and bolded....excellent point.

Now....lets say you dont even have to set up an account at their site, just enter credit card info. They have free and paid apps. Do you use 2 seperate email addresses for free and paid apps? Different names? Paid apps....physical address...free apps....nothing but name and throw away email address?

Or do you just leave all your info as is, same info for free and paid apps?

Some ppl actually do this...nothings wrong with doing that IMO. But ....all the folks complaining....this is the nature of buying/selling on the web. All I will say is this: if its a problem for the developers having our physical address...it should be a problem for us to have theirs. Many do work from home...

If it makes ppl feel better for only Google to have it, I hope they change it just to please ppl.

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