Google, RIM respond to Steve Jobs' comments during Apple's conference call
According to the Book of Jobs, Google is using "openess" to hide the fragmentation that is part of the current Android experience. As we reported yesterday, the Apple CEO said, "With iPhone, every handset works the same. We think Android is very fragmented and more fragmented every day." Jobs also pointed out that while Google is activating 200,000 Android phones daily and has 90,000 apps in the Android Market, Apple is activating 275,000 iPhone units a day and has 300,000 apps in the App Store.
The Apple co-founder didn't stop with Android. He also went after RIM, saying that the company must change to compete with Apple. He noted that the 14.1 million Apple iPhones sold in the last quarter easily topped the 12.1 million BlackBerry models that rang the register over the previous three month period. With one comment saying that 7 inch tablets cannot support great tablet apps, the CEO was negative on both the BlackBerry PlayBook and the Samsung Galaxy Tab. He said that his company had done extensive testing and that a 10 inch screen-like on the Apple iPad-is the way to go and that Apple will never release a 7 inch iPad.
Business-wise, sizing a tablet to fit into a pocket doesn't make sense, according to the executive, because tablet buyers are also smartphone buyers and if they can fit a 7 inch device into a pants pocket, that is a potential smartphone sale you are losing. Lastly, Jobs noted that the iPad currently has 35,000 of its own apps while new tablets will have zero at launch.
Both Google and RIM fired back salvos of their own today. The "father" of Android, Google's Andy Rubin, used his Twitter account for the first time to respond. Rubin's tweet, seen below, refers to the commands you would use to build your own copy of Android on any Linux machine. Rubin is saying to Jobs: "Is that open enough for you?". As a measure of support, Google CEO Eric Schmidt decided to retweet Rubin’s message.
RIM co-CEO Jim Balsillie took Steve Jobs' words harder and as a result, he hit back harder. Less blunt than Rubin, Balsillie said, "“For those of us who live outside of Apple’s distortion field, we know that 7″ tablets will actually be a big portion of the market and we know that Adobe Flash support actually matters to customers who want a real web experience. We also know that while Apple’s attempt to control the ecosystem and maintain a closed platform may be good for Apple, developers want more options and customers want to fully access the overwhelming majority of web sites that use Flash. We think many customers are getting tired of being told what to think by Apple...As usual, whether the subject is antennas, Flash or shipments, there is more to the story and sooner or later, even people inside the distortion field will begin to resent being told half a story.”
So as the smartphone industry heats up, we have three of the most charismatic executives in the business engaging in the modern equivalent of corporate warfare, using Twitter, YouTube and other modern modes of communication. We think things are going to get a whole lot hotter before there is any semblance of a cease-fire.
An audio tape with 5 minutes of Jobs' tirade can be heard by clicking on the play button below. This is not a video, which explains why the still picture on the link is upside down.
source: BGR, TiPb (1), (2), TechCrunch
1. I Heart Dumbasses (unregistered)
Steve Jobs is an egomaniacal fuck.
2. clevername (Posts: 1401; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Damn.... Say what you want, but if yo listen to the audio, Steve actually makes some really good points.
4. Pings (Posts: 276; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
"For those of us who live outside of Apple’s distortion field" So you must live within Apple’s distortion field...
5. messiah (Posts: 433; Member since: 19 Feb 2010)
Actually I would disagree a bit here about him making sense. Yes ios is the same across the board. And android is fragmented. However this allows for personal preference to play a larger part. I don't want my phone to look act and feel the same like everyone elses mobile device as much as I don't want to dress talk and walk like Steve Jobs. I like freedom. And his number quotes of activations and apps... sure apple might be doing fifteen percent more in a quarter..... but android is less than half the age of iPhone ios. So that eighty five percent android's is taking from Apple is a triumph achievement for any company to claim. To be accepted by so manly designers developers and customers so quickly is nothing shy of TOTALLY aggravating to apple. Apple doesn't like to be second or second guessed..... too bad on both a counts. This holiday will be a major sign if things to come. This holiday season and its quarter will have a mind blowing revelation. Android will blow Apple away. For all the fans and all The haters, don't worry. We will all see how this unfolds in two months. May the best os win.
6. cc16177 (Posts: 312; Member since: 09 May 2010)
I agree. To a communist leader, everything "works" better if done their way. If they have only one way of doing things, that is the "best" way.
14. Nobody (unregistered)
No, silly, you actually have to listen to the audio for the rant he did, not the Hitler inauguration speech... or, wait, is there a difference? Right, never mind, you're right.
3. messiah (Posts: 433; Member since: 19 Feb 2010)
Too bad JOBS isn't upside down more often..... would help him see things differently, perhaps from a customer's point of view...
7. Sniggly (Posts: 6421; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Rubin's reply kicked ass. Geeks everywhere probably cheered when they read his response. The fragmentation of android is one of its strengths; for instance, I wouldn't want Samsung's skin over Android, and many people have an irrational (in my opinion) hatred for Blur. Then there is also Sense UI, which I don't have a personal taste for but which even I can agree is a nice skin over the OS. The bottom line: there is choice. Jobs's rant smacks of desperation because the OS he and Apple laughed off as a soon to be dead competitor has grown to threatening levels, and RIM continues to outclass Apple in its reputation with business use.
10. Guesticle (unregistered)
14.1million iphones sold last quarter does not equal to 275,000 iphones sold a day
13. htc incredible (unregistered)
Part of his 275k is ios devices meaning ipod,s lol.
11. Eingild (unregistered)
What's with Steve Jobs? He keeps on attacking their competitors even though Android and RIM is not attacking Apple unless the latter do so. Personally, pointing out the flaws of others to stress the advantage of their product over the competitors is not so professional. Shame on Steve Jobs. Oh by the way Sir, your so called iPhone, iPod and iPad have the same UI throughout. It's like removing a phone functionality or increasing the size or some sort of physical enhancements housing the same content no matter much you stress that you are presenting the world a new innovation.
12. JohnBFTL (unregistered)
I am really starting to believe that all the chemotherapy that Steve Jobs went through gave him brain damage. The man has no concept of reality. How can he possibly believe that his 10" iPod Touch can hold a candle to tablets that will function on the web with full flash support? By the way Mr. Jobs, you did not invent the tablet market. Toshiba and HP had tablets 6 years ago. Once again, just like the iPod was "the original MP3 player," or the iPhone was "the original smartphone," the iPad being the original tablet is a load of garbage.
I have a great idea! Instead of spending a couple of weeks developing a new product, or should I say, repackaging the same product with a new casing and one or two new features, the spend the next 11 months advertising and hyping it up, how about taking your time to design something new? spend those 11 months working on the new product and those few weeks running an ad campaign. Maybe instead of saying, "This product is going to revolutionize everything said market," say, "hey, this is our newest, coolest product. Enjoy!" Face it old man, at this point your products are about as revolutionary as a car stereo with a cassette player. One by one, the big Green Wolf is taking all your sheep.
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