Google Glass wearing customer gets the boot from Seattle restaurant
Lost Lakes logo promoting its ban on Google Glass
While Meinert is a business owner standing up for his customers, it is possible to take clandestine pictures using a smartphone camera, so why not ban smartphones? In addition, the policy at the Lost Lakes is somewhat confusing. Nick Starr, the person who was tossed from the restaurant, repeated his side of the story on his Facebook page. Starr says that despite showing up at the Lost Lakes before wearing the connected specs, this time he was told to remove the Google Glass he was wearing or he would have to leave. When he pressed the night manager for any posted sign that banned the device from the premises, none could be found.
To avoid a problem, Star and his partner, Brian Street, decided to leave the restaurant. On the way out, Street recalled that right on the menu, the Lost Lake Cafe & Lounge practically solicited pictures from patrons, telling them to post any photos taken at the establishment to its Instagram page at #LostLakeCafe. According to Star, "So how is an establishment which is REQUESTING photos be taken, not allow me to bring a device which takes photos and can post to Instagram?". Sounds like a legitimate question to us.
source: LostLakes, NickStarr via PCMag
1. xtroid2k (Posts: 312; Member since: 11 Jan 2010)
Seems as if wearable tech is a weary issue for some. I think its fear of the unknown and the natural psychological reaction. I remember when phones first started to have cameras with the old flip phones and people would panic thinking their pic was being taken with out permission. I think over time wearables will become more acceptable but in order to do so we must use these devices ethically in order to promote wide spread adoption.
24. jedpatrickdatu (Posts: 145; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)
I think people are uncomfortable about Glass because it's hard to say if the person wearing it is using the camera or not. Unlike with smartphones, the user usually puts the device at an obvious position when taking a picture.
People would understand this move as you saying "Hey may I take your picture?." Even if they don't want their picture taken, at least you asked them for permission. With glass, you say to people "I have a camera aimed at you while I'm here, and I can take a picture of you with a blink of my eye if I want." Glass cameras are very scary this way and that's why people are so weary about it.
2. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 488; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
Privacy will take up an new level when this comes out. May be cameras should be removed or any other recording stuff in that wearable device. We can live with smartphones, camcorder and other recording devices. Not on those wearable devices. You must be 007 to have those IMO.
3. Reality_Check (Posts: 204; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Double standards? They're contradicting their own policy.
23. Pancholo (Posts: 365; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
A group of 50++ Google employees should troll the hell out of the owner and drop by for a business dinner, with every single person wearing Google Glasses. Will the owner then deny their cash? Silly Bob.
4. N-fanboy (Posts: 442; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
If someone tries to take your picture on a smartphone, you can punch the rude out of him. But with glasses you cant, because you cant tell. I am very impressed by the immense possibilities of this thing though.
14. Slammer (Posts: 716; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
I was always brought up never to hit a person wearing glasses.
21. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 753; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
you can take off the flash and mute the volume. I've taken pictures of people without them knowing more than once. Especially ridiculous people in Walmart.
5. davenycept (Posts: 138; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
This will create new interesting privacy right issues
6. pongkie (Posts: 491; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
someone clearly needs attention. if the establishment bans something, follow it or walk out
7. androiphone20 (Posts: 941; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
possible to take clandestine pictures
using a smartphone camera, so why not
ban smartphones?" the dude was creeped out
8. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 1173; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
Hmmm.. I wouldn't wanna sit next to anyone, wearing them shyts(gooogleglassus), he could be a spy
9. _Bone_ (Posts: 1988; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
This is pretty silly. There should be a recording indicator on the glass and end of story. I mean unless there's a specific LAW that prevents anyone using recording capable gadgets in a restaurant - meaning all mobiles are banned - I'd easily sue any company trying to bully me with their street laws. It's my gadget and I do whatever the hell I want with it, especially if it notifies the surroundings when recording is on.
The double standard is of course the restaurant almost certainly having cameras facing the door, the main hall etc... how's that for illegal surveillance?
Exactly. Ban the restaurant.
10. SprintPower (Posts: 71; Member since: 29 Dec 2008)
Meh, was going to comment but really, who cares? Next!
11. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 722; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
Your stats are interesting. I have another account since 2010 but with only one post. Just saying.
22. Pancholo (Posts: 365; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
We got a Miley Cyrus here.
At least post something worthy of debating. Bad, bad troll. Bad!
13. JewBakaUCFG (Posts: 160; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)
I don't know if the laws vary by state, county, or city, but I thought you had to have a person's permission to record them in any way. Or at least to use that recording or photograph in any form.
Business owners can make whatever policies they want for their establishments. But to ask for photos to be taken and posted and then ban a device that does just that is completely backwards.
15. lyndon420 (Posts: 1448; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
My guess is the owner of these establishments is jealous that he doesn't have his own 'Glass'ware. He may as well get over it because the future is right around the corner, and embracing innovation that is going to rule the world could be very profitable for business...especially when you are asking people to take pictures of your establishment with the sole purpose of having said pics splattered all over the internet. Yeah...he's just jealous is all. Once he finally gets his own pair his tune will change.
16. GoBears (Posts: 276; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
From ATMs to traffic and security cameras you're being recorded almost everywhere anyway so might as well face the fact that your privacy is gone when you leave your house.
17. palmguy (Posts: 135; Member since: 22 Mar 2011)
Hmm. His establishment his rules. Plus allow a majority of his customers to freak out over new tech or allow one patron in restaurant to have that tech that evening, I'll boot him out also to protect my money.
18. jacko1977 (Posts: 376; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
And if we ask you to leave, for God's sake, don't start yelling about your "rights". Just shut up and get out before you make things worse.
there really up themselves
20. alpinejason (Posts: 249; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
The best thing to do is vote with your pocketbook and take your business elsewhere enough said
25. Edmund (Posts: 633; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
I somehow think that taking a photo of one's friends and voluntarily posting it on the social pages of a restaurant's website is a bit different to recording people without their consent and then publishing the said video on Vine or youtube.
26. good2great (Posts: 1020; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
i figured this would happen. some people who like google glass just dont understand how creepy it is that someone is walking around with glasses on that film people without their knowledge.