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German court hands Apple victory over Motorola on "slide to unlock" patent

0. phoneArena 16 Feb 2012, 14:16 posted on

A German court has handed Apple victory over Motorola based on their questionable slide-to-unlock patent, which helps Apple even up with Motorola on recent German legal victories...

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posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:20 4

1. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


As expected...no new news since Apple has the patent.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:24 16

2. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


What are you gonna say when Apple gets the patent on oxygen?

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:49 2

7. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Okay, you're a hater.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:58 7

31. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Whateverman's a hater because he's pointing out how ridiculously overly broad a patent on any slide to unlock gesture is?

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:38

5. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Samsung got away on other cases and the patent even got invalidated but this can turn in a different way so its news

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 23:46 1

53. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


DIE APPLE!!!

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:30 19

3. BioTek (Posts: 53; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)


The court officials must be crazy.

posted on 17 Feb 2012, 09:13

57. MEeee (Posts: 353; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


All their families have iPhones, Motorola have no chance.

posted on 18 Feb 2012, 04:48

60. bizwiz (Posts: 1; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


Some here are missing the big picture "slide to unlock" is in fact a "drag and drop" feature, so the Apple patent should have been invalidated from the start.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:31 9

4. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


I thought the EU didn't allow BS software patents. Screw you Germany, and a big FU to apple.
And F Microsoft for patenting this BS as well and suing Motorola over it (and of course, only those devices running android).

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=EP&NR=1040406B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=6&date=20030502&DB=worldwide.espacenet.com&locale=en_EP

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:50 1

8. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


I also got a big kick out of this, in that version 3.0 and thus 4.0 aren't' infringing, but of course, apple redid the patent to be even more vague so as to get android again in the US lawsuit.

DIAF apple.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:01 2

10. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


So why didn't you invent that since you are so damn smart?

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:41 20

6. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Apple has the right slide to unlock was such an an unnatural way of doing things...

Wait a minute...http://i.imgur.com/s3Iqm.jpg

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 16:22 4

18. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Don't be mad at the player (apple) be mad at the game (german court system). Your right its a terrible lawsuit but the court system in germany is letting them get away with it.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 16:44 1

22. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


German court has to fail in favor of someone if the lawyer at apple side have a argument they have to fail in favor of them same as a murderer who everyone knows has gone serial yet evidence is not enough.

Personally not mad at apple just find the patents to be dumb and selfish , I'm an advocate of IP sharing without IP from rim Nokia Samsung and moto the iPhone won't be the same ,yet their IP is of reach from others even if those others have added their IP on top of it. The IP is so vague it fits anything. But things reach a limit eventually will settle down, just hope the damage done is not big for any of our favorite OS's

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:31 6

26. tedkord (Posts: 12228; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Yes. Don't be mad at defense lawyers who get murderers off with lies and faked evidence, be mad at the system that allows it. Don't blame the slave owners in the early days of the US, slavery was legal. Blame the laws.

What a tard philosophy. Be mad at the system, and at the unethical creeps who exploit it. They're both worthy of our hatred.

While we're at it, I suppose we shouldn't blame the patent trolls in China who are getting ipads banned. They're just playing the game.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:37 3

27. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


the patent trolls in China??? lookout you mean that large tech company in chin that patented the ipad name back in 2001 and when apple infringed on it they tried to make a deal with apple.... to only have apple spit at them and go on using the name without paying a cent.

yup.. its definately their fault.... huh?

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 19:18

37. biophone (Posts: 1976; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


The defense lawyers are just doing their jobs. If they knew the evidence was faked that goes against the game and makes them criminals. The game in the scenario the courts should of recognized the evidence was fake and reprimanded them. The lawyers weren't playing within the confines of this game. Apple is playing within the confines of the game and didn't fake any patents.
And I don't blame slave owners they didn't do it because their evil they did it because thats how they were raised and didn't know any better. Society was to blame for making them that way.
And remix got the third point for me thanks

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:50 2

9. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


@protozeloz
Hahaha:D
Nice one!

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:04 10

11. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Screw Apple!!! Und zum Teufel mit Apple!!!

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:10 9

12. Jphones (Posts: 235; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Ha are you serious some technological ideas should be unpatentable for instance somebody had a patent on phone calls so every phone in the world should fall under that patent. Apple need to stop suing other companies because they come out with a similar way to do somethin. Should the English sue Apple over the improper use of the letter I in front of phone? Come on dam stop with this stupid patent wars and just make quality products

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:15 3

13. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


That's fine, they can give us all the "Unlock" gesture that's found on the XOOM (Circle unlock). Besides, Googorola combined, will have more patents than krApple and will find a way to obliTerAte the crApp out of them.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:24 5

14. karas (Posts: 78; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Motorola/samsung/htc/lg should come up with something like 'LICK TO UNLOCK'.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:23

25. k1ng617 (Posts: 264; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)


I would dread having to borrow your phone then

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:35 1

15. tedkord (Posts: 12228; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I'm parenting "dubbstep to unlock." Your asses will all belong to me. BWAH HA HA HA HA HA!

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:58 1

16. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


why the hate.. no one will come and take you phones away... phones wouldn't be banned just manufacturers will pony up money to pay settlement.. money that will come up from you guys pocket.... but hey is a risk when you purchase an Android.. you never know... with Android...

but android will never do that right..

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 16:39

20. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


all they have to do is change the lockscreen...against samsung apple failed to use this same patent in the Dutch court as there was no predefined path where as in the moto lockscreen there is a predefined path..as silly as this is it is a easy work around,make the lockscreen like the zooms as the judge agreed the zoom did not infring this patent lockscreen so they will be fine and no need to pay settlement and i dont think apple even would want to settle for payment,apple dont want to share.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:15

24. Mario1017 (Posts: 336; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)


lol moto wont have to pay anything to apple, a little (VERY LITTLE) system update could change the lock in a matter of days

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 18:01 2

32. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Gallito, Apple has a track record of asking for outright bans on any product whose parent company they sue. Granted, devices already sold won't be taken away, but Apple is trying to remove choice from the market for future customers.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 18:57 1

35. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


tell me of a product that Apple has prived consumer of. as far as I know the galaxy tab 10.1N is back on the shelf...please lets be real no one is banning nothing maybe preventing for a short period of time... but thats it...

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