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German court hands Apple victory over Motorola on "slide to unlock" patent

0. phoneArena 16 Feb 2012, 14:16 posted on

A German court has handed Apple victory over Motorola based on their questionable slide-to-unlock patent, which helps Apple even up with Motorola on recent German legal victories...

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posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:20 4

1. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


As expected...no new news since Apple has the patent.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:24 16

2. Whateverman (Posts: 3231; Member since: 17 May 2009)


What are you gonna say when Apple gets the patent on oxygen?

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:49 2

7. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Okay, you're a hater.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:58 7

31. Sniggly (Posts: 7180; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Whateverman's a hater because he's pointing out how ridiculously overly broad a patent on any slide to unlock gesture is?

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:38

5. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Samsung got away on other cases and the patent even got invalidated but this can turn in a different way so its news

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 23:46 1

53. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


DIE APPLE!!!

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:30 19

3. BioTek (Posts: 53; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)


The court officials must be crazy.

posted on 17 Feb 2012, 09:13

57. MEeee (Posts: 281; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


All their families have iPhones, Motorola have no chance.

posted on 18 Feb 2012, 04:48

60. bizwiz (Posts: 1; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


Some here are missing the big picture "slide to unlock" is in fact a "drag and drop" feature, so the Apple patent should have been invalidated from the start.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:31 9

4. sprockkets (Posts: 1316; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


I thought the EU didn't allow BS software patents. Screw you Germany, and a big FU to apple.
And F Microsoft for patenting this BS as well and suing Motorola over it (and of course, only those devices running android).

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=EP&NR=1040406B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=6&date=20030502&DB=worldwide.espacenet.com&locale=en_EP

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:50 1

8. sprockkets (Posts: 1316; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


I also got a big kick out of this, in that version 3.0 and thus 4.0 aren't' infringing, but of course, apple redid the patent to be even more vague so as to get android again in the US lawsuit.

DIAF apple.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:01 2

10. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


So why didn't you invent that since you are so damn smart?

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:41 20

6. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Apple has the right slide to unlock was such an an unnatural way of doing things...

Wait a minute...http://i.imgur.com/s3Iqm.jpg

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 16:22 4

18. biophone (Posts: 1896; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Don't be mad at the player (apple) be mad at the game (german court system). Your right its a terrible lawsuit but the court system in germany is letting them get away with it.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 16:44 1

22. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


German court has to fail in favor of someone if the lawyer at apple side have a argument they have to fail in favor of them same as a murderer who everyone knows has gone serial yet evidence is not enough.

Personally not mad at apple just find the patents to be dumb and selfish , I'm an advocate of IP sharing without IP from rim Nokia Samsung and moto the iPhone won't be the same ,yet their IP is of reach from others even if those others have added their IP on top of it. The IP is so vague it fits anything. But things reach a limit eventually will settle down, just hope the damage done is not big for any of our favorite OS's

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:31 6

26. tedkord (Posts: 5130; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Yes. Don't be mad at defense lawyers who get murderers off with lies and faked evidence, be mad at the system that allows it. Don't blame the slave owners in the early days of the US, slavery was legal. Blame the laws.

What a tard philosophy. Be mad at the system, and at the unethical creeps who exploit it. They're both worthy of our hatred.

While we're at it, I suppose we shouldn't blame the patent trolls in China who are getting ipads banned. They're just playing the game.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:37 3

27. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


the patent trolls in China??? lookout you mean that large tech company in chin that patented the ipad name back in 2001 and when apple infringed on it they tried to make a deal with apple.... to only have apple spit at them and go on using the name without paying a cent.

yup.. its definately their fault.... huh?

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 19:18

37. biophone (Posts: 1896; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


The defense lawyers are just doing their jobs. If they knew the evidence was faked that goes against the game and makes them criminals. The game in the scenario the courts should of recognized the evidence was fake and reprimanded them. The lawyers weren't playing within the confines of this game. Apple is playing within the confines of the game and didn't fake any patents.
And I don't blame slave owners they didn't do it because their evil they did it because thats how they were raised and didn't know any better. Society was to blame for making them that way.
And remix got the third point for me thanks

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 14:50 2

9. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


@protozeloz
Hahaha:D
Nice one!

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:04 10

11. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Screw Apple!!! Und zum Teufel mit Apple!!!

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:10 9

12. Jphones (Posts: 235; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Ha are you serious some technological ideas should be unpatentable for instance somebody had a patent on phone calls so every phone in the world should fall under that patent. Apple need to stop suing other companies because they come out with a similar way to do somethin. Should the English sue Apple over the improper use of the letter I in front of phone? Come on dam stop with this stupid patent wars and just make quality products

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:15 3

13. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


That's fine, they can give us all the "Unlock" gesture that's found on the XOOM (Circle unlock). Besides, Googorola combined, will have more patents than krApple and will find a way to obliTerAte the crApp out of them.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:24 5

14. karas (Posts: 35; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Motorola/samsung/htc/lg should come up with something like 'LICK TO UNLOCK'.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:23

25. k1ng617 (Posts: 264; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)


I would dread having to borrow your phone then

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:35 1

15. tedkord (Posts: 5130; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I'm parenting "dubbstep to unlock." Your asses will all belong to me. BWAH HA HA HA HA HA!

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 15:58 1

16. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


why the hate.. no one will come and take you phones away... phones wouldn't be banned just manufacturers will pony up money to pay settlement.. money that will come up from you guys pocket.... but hey is a risk when you purchase an Android.. you never know... with Android...

but android will never do that right..

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 16:39

20. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


all they have to do is change the lockscreen...against samsung apple failed to use this same patent in the Dutch court as there was no predefined path where as in the moto lockscreen there is a predefined path..as silly as this is it is a easy work around,make the lockscreen like the zooms as the judge agreed the zoom did not infring this patent lockscreen so they will be fine and no need to pay settlement and i dont think apple even would want to settle for payment,apple dont want to share.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:15

24. Mario1017 (Posts: 336; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)


lol moto wont have to pay anything to apple, a little (VERY LITTLE) system update could change the lock in a matter of days

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 18:01 2

32. Sniggly (Posts: 7180; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Gallito, Apple has a track record of asking for outright bans on any product whose parent company they sue. Granted, devices already sold won't be taken away, but Apple is trying to remove choice from the market for future customers.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 18:57 1

35. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


tell me of a product that Apple has prived consumer of. as far as I know the galaxy tab 10.1N is back on the shelf...please lets be real no one is banning nothing maybe preventing for a short period of time... but thats it...

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 19:51 3

41. Sniggly (Posts: 7180; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Okay, so riddle me this: just because Cobra *fails* at taking over the world each week in the cartoon G.I. Joe, does it make it any less despicable that they try?

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 16:20 1

17. biophone (Posts: 1896; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Just like I said the german court is a shame. Shame, Shame, Shame. Slide to unlock really. REALLY. I'm sorry but to those who where bragging about moto getting an injunction on the iPhone and saying isn't it great to be free I hope you realize how terrible of a court system this really is now. I can't believe this.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:39 3

29. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


lol and you wonder why I've always called the German court a kangaroo court. it hops to the left then hops to the right..

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 19:19 1

38. biophone (Posts: 1896; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Its so true. They need some reform asap.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 19:25 2

39. dreammixer (banned) (Posts: 81; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


You didn't think they were a kangaroo court when they ruled against Apple.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 23:02

49. wumberpeb (Posts: 444; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)


Even a broken clock is right twice a day

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 23:34

52. biophone (Posts: 1896; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Yes he did

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 16:27 3

19. theBankRobber (Posts: 649; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


My old super *** ass Samsung Instant could do this very same thing. Its been a while but im pretty sure it allowed a picture or image in the background while sliding the bar to unlock the phone. This is pure BS and its a shame another Apple win means more problems down the line for all Android OEM's.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 16:40 7

21. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Apple is doomed. It can't innovate,so it's trying desperatelty to stay afloat,and grasping at straws to do so. Give it a couple of years,and they will be history. Apple is the future RIM.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 16:58 4

23. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


other than your personal opinion.. how you came to that conclusion... have you seen the sales number and profits lately... you honestly see Apple slowing to that degree that you are speaking about... remember this is the year of the redesign iphone... I know you hate Apple but don't lose common sense...

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 22:11

47. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Why is Apple offering a free case for all iPhone 4 buyers? A: It doesn't help with reception, but protects the iPhone when you throw it against the wall after dropping a call!

posted on 17 Feb 2012, 03:17

55. deacz (Posts: 157; Member since: 02 Nov 2011)


remember how nokia was nr1? yea... funny what time can do

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 23:07

50. wumberpeb (Posts: 444; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)


Dammit, I hate when Gallito is right but you are WAY off base jmoita2. Not even close. They sue because they can and they want to drive Android completely off the market. Hell, Steve Jobs would have loved to see that happen before his death

The entire company can go to hell for what they're pushing for, but they're certainly not doing this to "stay afloat"

posted on 17 Feb 2012, 17:04

59. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Why is the Apple still reporting record profits? A: Because iPhone users are just as oblivious to the looming recession as they are to the people around them!

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:38 2

28. dreammixer (banned) (Posts: 81; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


This set of Apple patents are very very solid. Android makers and Google have a lot to worry about because these bans could start going world wide pretty soon here. Work arounds will be very expensive.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 17:48 3

30. Striker (Posts: 92; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)


Well, screw you, Motorola(Giggle in the shadow)! Go, Apple! Keep punishing thieves and plagiarists!

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 19:37 1

40. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Whois is Giggle? Sorry but why are the others fault when apple is well know for taking others ideas and patenting stuff on things they haven't even produced?

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 18:13 2

33. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)


Apple paid bribe to the Germ Judge in order to win the case.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 18:52

34. iblackdroid (Posts: 67; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)


This is f**king ridiculous

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 19:10 5

36. gkquiambao (Posts: 62; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)


Apple is such a douche bag

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 20:18 3

42. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6689; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


FCK U APPLE AND FCK U JUDGE in Germany for taking Apple's money in court. same goes for our U.S. court system.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 21:13 2

44. dreammixer (banned) (Posts: 81; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Hahaha loser

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 20:55

43. theBankRobber (Posts: 649; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


http://phandroid.com/2012/02/16/google-files-patent-for-new-lockscreen-method-finds-work-around-for-apples-slide-to-unlock/ Google's answers to Apple, a new patent for unlocking devices.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 22:09 1

45. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Q: How many Apple Iphone early adopters does it take to change a light bulb? A: 3001. 1 to do the work and 3000 to go online and bitch about the lack of obscure features!

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 22:11 1

46. Zayuh24 (Posts: 148; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


Wow, so even the German court system are iFanboys. There is so much bias in politics and policymaking that it's ruining our global competitiveness. Apple just wants to monopolize technology in general. Pretty soon, they're going to patent the entire operating system and render other computers illegal.

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 22:36 3

48. click (Posts: 1; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Apple is so greedy. grrr..

posted on 16 Feb 2012, 23:28 1

51. nickjjay (Posts: 79; Member since: 10 Oct 2011)


Not a fan of apple trying to sue rather than innovate.

Not a fan of iSheeep.

posted on 17 Feb 2012, 02:23 1

54. -box- (Posts: 3866; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Maybe all the android manufacturers should collaborate and make the unlocking motion spell out something derogatory towards apple, or a randomly bouncing apple icon (not of apple's IP of course!) that when you tap it, it will explode

posted on 17 Feb 2012, 04:44 3

56. Striker (Posts: 92; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)


Haters gonna hate...Just have in mind that now Apple can buy(if they want to) the whole Handroid industry. It is non stop growing and its market value is as much as Giggle and Microsoft combined! Besides it has piles of free cash(about 90 billion or more). So haters, people obviously like Apple, simply because they are the best.

posted on 17 Feb 2012, 12:15

58. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Why is the Apple still reporting record profits? A: Because iPhone users are just as oblivious to the looming recession as they are to the people around them!

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