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Galaxy S8 may have a pressure-sensitive home key, Note 8 a whole display

0. phoneArena 15 Mar 2017, 03:33 posted on

Ever since Apple announced its 3D Touch technology for pressure-sensitive screens on the iPhone 6s, it has been incorporating and enhancing it further throughout its whole lineup, but what about its rumored iPhone 8 that will eventually be the first Cupertino design to utilize an OLED display? Well, Samsung, Apple's eventual supplier of OLED panels, may have found a solution...

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posted on 15 Mar 2017, 04:44

13. CincyGuy (Posts: 15; Member since: 19 Oct 2015)


How is this different from the pop-out menus built into Android N, or the latest version of Nova or Action launcher??? From the video it seems to do the same thing: you hold down on an icon, instead of just tapping it to open the app, and you get a mini-menu with some choices relevant to that app. Like for my camera, I think the menu is: take a pic, take a selfie, take a video.

Why even develop a special hardware feature for this when Android (and launcher apps) already added this feature via software? Serious question, because I am feeling really dumb right now because I don't get it?!?

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 04:48

15. ShadowSnypa786 (Posts: 146; Member since: 06 Jan 2017)


Its how you had the S Pen Air view when you hold the pen over the screen press the button and you get more options.

Samsung has had these features for years just not implemented into the force touch display.

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 05:10

19. CincyGuy (Posts: 15; Member since: 19 Oct 2015)


Your answer makes no sense to me. The video shows people holding their fingers on the screen versus just tapping, and that is what I was talking about with the difference in features for the hardware-based feature (Apple force touch and this supposed Samsung home-key force touch) versus the software feature baked into Android Nougat or many Android launchers. The S-pen feature (which I understand because I had a Note 7 for about 2 weeks before the recall) is different and distinct to a separate piece of hardware (the s pen). You answering my question with s pen features is comparing apples to oranges.

Either you are dumb or am I dumber than I thought I was. Time for an early morning drink. Sigh.

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 08:42 1

31. ShadowSnypa786 (Posts: 146; Member since: 06 Jan 2017)


The only difference is you have to touch the screen firmly compared to pulling out a pen, its just a hardware difference but same idea.

Samsung have done S Pen Air view for years all Apple and others did was implement it into the screen thats my point regardless of what you said.

And you definelty need something more than a early drink if you start chucking out insults over something so little,

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 04:45 1

14. mastachaz (Posts: 33; Member since: 19 Feb 2016)


looks like s8 its made just to be made.

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 05:23

20. AlikMalix (Posts: 7101; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


whoa, whoa, whoa... hold those horses... "Samsung has already patented force touch panels"...

If this was Apple, everyone of you would say apple patented something already in use by other companies.... Now, Samsung does it all the time, and this is proof - not a friggen' peep out of you... I mean this is exactly what iPhone had since 6s, even the look of context menu. But I'm not sure how Samsung users are going to fully enjoy it - see, on ios 3d touch has been implemented into most of the 3rd party apps on my phone now, and the entire OS: such as keyboard, settings menu, stock apps, control center, gestures, and so on..

Now, I don't give one hoot, but the double standard and hypocrisy reeks from this article...

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 06:16

22. ibend (Posts: 6282; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


well, samsung ACTUALLY MAKE AND MASS PRODUCE those pressure sensitive superAMOLED panel..
compare that to other company who can just patent it and wait other manufacturer to make it for them

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 06:34

24. trojan_horse (Posts: 3644; Member since: 06 May 2016)


True story, bruh ibend.

Apple can't be compared with Samsung when it comes to patents, as Apple does Mass Produce devices with those patents, but most of the time Apple just patents and waits until another OEM comes up with something remotely close to Apple's patent... and the lawsuit fest begins!

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 07:03 1

26. AlikMalix (Posts: 7101; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


ubend, have you actually read any of apple's patents? you do realize that everyone of the patents reported either from Samsung, apple, nokia are more than just images!!! most of the time they're not for the screen panel exactly - they're either for implementation of such tech, or manufacturing of it, or packaging it, or w/e....

I'm pretty sure that Samsung just patented implementation of same technology found on iPhone 6s but with slight change that applies to amoled instead of lcd screens... AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW APPLE PATENTS ARE - but you goons, look at the whole thing at face value and NOW you're neck deep into hypocrisy land.

There are quite a few very common implementations that Samsung has patented and used on their device after iPhones already had them - like home button imbedded fingerprint sensor, what other phone besides iPhone had that before? huh? Samsung tried some swipe way - but failed and was forced to copy apple...

Android Market (now called Google Play) is literally build from Apples App Store as a carbon copy. Yes, before that there were depositories for applications that manufacturers listed for their OWN phone and were solely made by manufacturer themselves, but nothing on the scale of 3rd party involvement like the App Store. What about Doze? that's right off Background Optimization on iOS. App Permissions, FINALLY people are getting it - iOS since DAY ONE! The list goes on...

But once again, this article - straight out of Apple's Playbook, not one of you bitching for some reason... why?

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 13:29

37. omnitech (Posts: 470; Member since: 28 Sep 2016)


Force touch is useless bro and no android fan cares about it,

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 16:16

42. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 12983; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Your whole Techie-Attempt to be liek be is all wrong.

As far as patents, yes many patents are based on a similar concept and each OEM patents their way of implementation which I agree is mostly what Apple does.

Samsung did nto try to copy Apple's Touch ID. Samsung, LG, Sony and other OEM's all sourced the same company for swipeless FPS.

Apple bought the company and ended talks and kept the tech for themselves.

The tech is not new. In fact any ocmpany that makles FPS can make them fit any size button.

The only reason for swipe, is if the button si not large enough to get a needed read.

No matter hwo many times you fools continue to cliam Smausng tried to copy Apple's Touch ID, it will always be false. They did not.

After Appel bought the cmpany and ended the talks, many OEM's were left hanging with no options at all which si why they didnt have one.

Samsung simply went for another options. As I said other FPS makers coudl amke the same product. The problem is, they were not able to mass produce ot at the levels to support all these OEM which is what the one capability of thsi one company was and why they all tried to source them.

Those are the facst bruh and all it takles is a simple Google and read aboit the tech and who actually owns it which is NO ONE.

Touch ID uses the exact same tech that has been used with FPS for years.

On laptops, OEM's chose the swipe method because it was more common and cheaper.

Full touch only sensors are more expensive and also at the time require a part that took up a lot of space.

Apple's home button by default, just so happen to be large enough for a single read sensor. That's it. Its not a special ability or tech. It always existed. The limitations were simply use for cost cutting.

The Atrix chose the swipe method because again, when you need a part for millions of products for example, you must consider cost.

This is why Apple avoid OLED displays. COST!

Apple never said they didnt like OLED technology. They didn't wait for the tech to mature. They waited for the lower pricing.

Android Market? That's BS too. First off Appel didnt have an app store. There were app stores for other platforms like Windows Mobile, Palm and Blackberry OS. So you claim is BS.

Apple has an app store because of the Cydia team who jailbroke iOS and fixed it to be able to sideload apps and then Apple decided to do it.

At the very beginning Steve Jobs stated, they were providing the apps for iPhone OS.

You really need to wake up, stop lying and stop trying to be some coherent bully. Because what you said dont matter if its all 100% untrue.

Next you will try to claim, Android only exist because of iOS which would also be false. IOS borrows heavily from concepts and ideas done with other mobile OS'.

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 16:22

43. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 12983; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


I'm one who does care and would never use it. I dont even use it on the iPhone 6S Plus.

Its stupid. What I do liek is for example, when I ant to use the camera, using FT and choosing photo or record is cool. Here is the issue. I can open the camera app and chose either FASTER than if I pick it with FT first because, you have to wait for FT you notice your harder press to make it functions.

Its dumb. It si also why Apple sourced another company to deal with the TDDI issue - which si mentioned here.

Apple new Android OEM's were goign to have this tech, because Synaptics was working on it. The problem is, the drivers for the tech were not stable and made the tech have limited capabilities. Apple looked into using the company mentioned in the article, but Synaptics who was also having issues ended up biuying the company.

If you look on YouTube you can see some of the demos which shows some issues. Like one I read, in the beginning, water or liquid on the display woudl cause the display touch not to work properly. DO that is something they did fix to work better, but not good enough.

Other issues were who the display drivers detect touch and understanding how to discern when it was an inadvertent touch vs that user is actually making a request.

These are the FACTS that PA and thr troll monkeys here will never go an look up because they are not true tech fans.

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 18:28

44. AlikMalix (Posts: 7101; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


What? Please summarize... and list me ONE device that had a FPS embedded into the home button (that also has millions other functions), and was used throughout the ecosystem on top of unlocking the device at the level of accuracy and speed that iPhone 5s had!!!

Please, no more paragraphs - quick answer: device name, that's it!!!

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 07:02 1

25. nctx77 (Posts: 2256; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


LOL! I never seen this before.......

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 07:42

28. joevsyou (Posts: 983; Member since: 28 Feb 2015)


what a buzzkill...

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 03:52

46. nasznjoka (Posts: 407; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


C'mon what apple and Huawei have is just a software implementation and not the display...
Android has a menu called contextMenu and it's the one pops up when you force press the screen... So apple copied it and called 3d touch and huawei .. weill you know Chinese likes apple products so huawei had to cope!

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