Galaxy S III more of an incremental upgrade, tips carrier insider, might be called something else
0. phoneArena 17 Apr 2012, 07:49 posted on
What we call the Samsung Galaxy S III and might be revealed May 3 in London, is considered more of an incremental upgrade by the manufacturer, UK carrier insiders are tipping...
This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here
11. PhoneLuver (Posts: 481; Member since: 05 Jul 2010)
Let's hope they at the very least upgrade the camera to 12MP.
17. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4816; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Samsung is so into being the best that I really don't think the Samsung Galaxy S III will just be an incremental update as this article is implying. I think it will jump to 12MP for sure & that it will forego the quad-core A-9 Exynos for the new A-15 dual-core Exynos. What I think I am most interest about is if they can get a 1080p HD Super AMOLED Plus screen. If they can achieve that, then Samsung has the phone of the year.
Samsung is out to rule the smartphone segment & if they add that ceramic casing they are talking about, you can throw out the incremental release thing out the door.
All of this makes me salivate at the thought of what they will stuff inside the Samsung Galaxy Note 2. WOW can we all say quad-core A-15 Exynos at 2.0 to 2.5GHz!
22. Commentator (Posts: 3677; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Samsung's into what is most economically viable for their company, and if they see that pushing a phone with such highly touted specs is impractical, then they obviously won't do it until production costs come down. This either means that the SIII is coming out a little later (August-October), or that the SIII really is just an incremental upgrade (that will still challenge the top smartphones out there). Whatever the case, I've noticed how eerily similar Samsung fanboyism has become compared to Apple fanboyism.
23. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
A lot of you said this time last year that the sgs2's specs where impractical but we saw how that turned out didn't we?
26. Commentator (Posts: 3677; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
The only thing that made the Galaxy S II stand out was its Exynos processor's optimization. On paper, the S II was actually on par to most other high-end phones. It's screen resolution was even inferior to qHD screens on HTC and Moto devices (although the AMOLED part made up for it and then some). I'm not counting out Samsung's ability to optimize and fine-tune whatever it puts out.
25. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
i just like the exynos and deep black,if another phone provides these two features i would pick a non samsung phone so i am not fan of samsung perse but of these to spec...do agree that samsung have got fanboys similar to apple fanboys. lol find it funny that android fanboys hate apple but hate other android fanboys at the same time...
33. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4816; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
It's been cited that Samsung spends billions on R&D. For them to spend so much on R&D just for an incremental upgrade would just not make sense.
Samsung wants the best phone clearly & by a long shot. Meizu is releasing the world’s first quad-core Exynos phone, NOT Samsung. So that leads me to believe that Samsung is leaving the best for themselves. To me that means the dual-core A-15 @ 1.7GHz is completely and utterly plausible.
This isn't about being a Samsung fanboy, it's about recognizing the truth that Samsung makes the best parts around. Just ask Apple about the Samsung made A5X dual-core or the Samsung made Retina display on the new iPad.
Samsung is coming to play & they are coming to play hard. Yes this is all speculation but it is really closer to the realm of reality than what you are giving them credit for! Given that the 32nm dual-core A-15 Exynos was sampled last year means that they are VERY close to an actual release. The Super AMOLED Plus screen will be HD. Now will it be 720p or 1080p that is the question.
54. Commentator (Posts: 3677; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
1080p would only be viable on a 7-inch tablet or higher (that would be 314 ppi). Using 1080p on a phone, even at 5.2 inches, would be pointless: the human eye can't tell the difference, unless you held it like 3 inches from your face or something. It would be a waste of resources, and Samsung would be shooting themselves in the foot. On a more positive note, seeing a Galaxy Tab 7 or 7.7 with a 1080p S-AMOLED screen would be amazing, and I could totally see Samsung doing it, especially if Apple does release an "iPad Mini."
Also, I agree that the next big phone from Samsung will have the A15, not the A9. It's kind of like what they're doing with their qHD S-AMOLED screens: selling them off to other handsets (Droid RAZR and One S), while keeping the bigger-better screens for themselves. On the same note, they might let other companies use the A9 Exynos, but keep the A15 for themselves.
44. _VipeR_ (Posts: 47; Member since: 30 May 2011)
I agree with you on the economically viable for their company part. But, if one thing should be clear by now...it's that Samung wants to Dominate the smartphone industry!The only way for them to ever do that is to continue to push innovation and continue to deliver exceptional phones and I don't see them skimping on the next version of their flagship device. The only reason that Apple is able to pull off the iPhone 4, iPhone 4s, iPhone 5 type pattern is because people are going to go out and by it simply because it has an "i" before it. The marginal improvements in the os have nothing to do with it..especially considering that most of those improvements are things that have been standard on Android for sometime now. That will not cut it for Samsung. They have to continue to pound out heavy hitters that the rest of the industry will have to use as examples to mimic. HTC, even with the release of the very capable One series, is no longer a threat and LG never was. Sony could turn things around and become a major player but that's still a couple of years away. The SIII will be no incremental uprade! Expectations are way too high and they will not allow their bread and butter to take a fall now!
24. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
no need for 1080p screen on such a small screen,would be an over kill as the human eye cant see dpi above 300 and a 1080p screen on a 4.6'' would have around 450 dpi which is not needed and would over use the cpu etc even more and kill the battery much much quicker and would make app files even more larger..lol not saying i would complain if they did but just think its not needed. ''even'' if it only has a 720p screen i wouldnt consider it a incremental update. article says its gonna have a quad core exynos,720p screen(non pentile),redesign,most liklely a bigger battery so dont know how this is a incremental update from a dual core,wvga screen etc to me it looks like they are improving every aspect of the s2
34. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4816; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yeah ok I can agree with that. Would you not get it if they did put the 1080p HD Super AMOLED Plus?
If Samsung manages it I would definitely not have a problem with it.
36. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
would be mad not to get it but hopefully if they do then i hope its not at the expense of battery life cause the one thing that would stop me from getting it is if it has worse battery than my s2. if they can get the same battery as the s2 with a 1080p screen then thats great but then imagine the battery with a 720p screen it would be even more awesome...i would much rather have a s3 with an excellent battery life rather than a 1080p screen. like i said aslong as i get the same or more than my s2 battery then i am all for the 1080p screen.
38. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
The higher resolution it is the easier it is on my eyes lol
43. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
true but a 720p screen on a 4.6'' has a dpi of 320 i think and that is more than the human eye can see so it would be unnecessary to have anything too much higher as it wouldnt make much difference...like i said am not saying they shouldnt,i just think its not needed.
55. Commentator (Posts: 3677; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
I'd take the 720p any day, simply because of its presumably lower price and better battery efficiency. My eyes aren't microscopes, after all.
41. groupsacc (Posts: 232; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)
1080p resolution on a mobile phone screen is impossible and unnecessary.
42. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
The point of having 12MP? If you want to make good photos with a phone aim for a good lens or sensor. 3.5MP are enough for a 1920x1080 display
61. CHECHEN (Posts: 26; Member since: 13 Feb 2012)
haha. cool picture Detective Colombo ? right
64. Shangri-La (Posts: 71; Member since: 04 Oct 2011)
Please... stop this. Pixel count has nothing, by that i mean NOTHING, to do with picture quality
2. fxymps1 (Posts: 10; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
Are you kidding !! Samsung thats what we were talking . Don't do like APPLe :(
6. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
i don't really think they're imitating apple. imo they are mocking apple in that sense.
let's not expect too much from samsung, we know they'll do great but lets not be like the disappointed applepeople when the iPhone 4S came and did not crush the GSII.
32. iPAPiNYC (banned) (Posts: 5; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)
If I may play Devil's advocate, if in fact the SG III turns out to be an 'incremental upgrade' they might consider naming it the Samsung Galaxy 4S?
3. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
that's quite ODD, and rather stupid. ruin their best chance to leave an impression on everyone with something awesome WTF!?
21. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
what were you expecting mate if not quad core exynos,720p amoled plus screen,ics,bigger battery,redisign...honestly this is what i expected all along.
39. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
can i ask what you expected then if not the above.
57. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I'm expecting what you typed abobe, but what I expect is is not an incremental update from the S2
To me increasing screen real state and resolution , camera, battery, number of cores, ram performance and OS is not an incremental update.
an incremental update is increase two or aspects of a device but all I'm counting is on all aspects so it does not sound incremental for me
62. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
oh lol sorry mate looks like i misread your comment before then,thought you were saying that with quad,redesign,hd screen,bigger battery the s3 would be a minor update
66. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
its ok, should have been more clear to begin. what I meant is that I do not want Samsung to release an incremental update with half or less what we are expecting. now is their chance to make a huge leap releasing a device that makes us drool all over and bumps its status.
they can release an bendable S3 latter on or some other stuff and name it whatever. I expect the S3 to be on top of the charts. when it comes to performance, scree, battery life and looks
4. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
i don't trust half the sources on this website.......i trust engadget, phonedog, and gsmarena more
5. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
this was actually posted in cnet first.
7. shadowcell (Posts: 300; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
You shouldn't trust anything except official sources, in which this case would be Samsung. Everything else is just rumors.
Tips like this is here to maybe give you a sense on what to expect but never 100% fact.
8. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
true, when i hear the actually confirmation of this on may 3rd ill believe it
79. wendygarett (unregistered)
cnet is the most suck article i had ever had.... thay all full of those isheep who keeps trolling about android phones....
9. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
as a samsung fan who is irritated by apple iphone rumors, we also need to stop these rumors and stuff.
we'll wait for samsung's announcements.
and remixfa, I also made another render, this time brushed metal backs, and i want you to guess the color again. :)
10. android_hitman (unregistered)
CNET source is already trying to bash the SGSIII... and btw...I never saw an incremental upgrade from Sammy...
65. Commentator (Posts: 3677; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Are you kidding? How about the Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket? Samsung Galaxy S 4G? Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1? Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7?
12. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
This wont happen, although the 4s sold well apple dropped marketshare because people were pissed that it wasnt a real upgrade and sales dropped compared to previous years.
Apple can afford to do play it like that, Samsung cannot. If samsung wants to establishes itself firmly as the market leader they can't afford to run a risk like that.
27. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
The 4S broke sales record and it was the best-selling iPhone ever also Apples market share went up not down.
68. Commentator (Posts: 3677; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Agreed, bloodline. They run the risk of being last year's HTC. Going into 2011, HTC was looking pretty coming off a year highlighted by the Nexus One, Evo 4G, and Desire HD. They ended up being beaten out by Samsung at just about everything. It's not that their phones were all that bad, but it seems like they simply got outplayed.
As amazing as Samsung's sales have been over the last year, I don't think they can move with the same impunity that Apple can, simply because they're a big fish in a big pond (Android) whereas Apple is the only fish in a tiny pond that they own themselves (iOS).
74. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
which is what makes them more dangerous. the fear of being eaten alive by predators makes you much quicker to adapt than a fish that is all alone in his own pond. looking at both apple's and samsung's development over the last 2 years, samsung is far and away the clear leader.
78. snowgator (Posts: 3568; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Agreed. Sammy may not be able to hold the top perch forever, but they are there right now. They develop monster devices, tend to do top-tier mobile devices the best, and are motivated to keep the LG's, HTC's, and other Android makers a notch below them. Incremental increase just to be "in line" with other Android makers? Not a chance. They want to be better, and the GS3 will show that.
As for Apple, they are content with pleasing their consumer base, and seem to be making a killing doing that. Samsung wants to expand.
13. abdane (Posts: 494; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
if it wont be called S3, that would suck ! :(
14. strikercho (banned) (Posts: 156; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
It's Samsung, mate. They can never be real leaders. Real leaders invent, thrill, create. This is Samsung. No matter how many devices they sell, Huyndai will never be a Benz, right? :)
47. groupsacc (Posts: 232; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)
Comparing hyundai to samsung? what are you smoking?
83. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
samsung invents all the hardware that all your "real leaders" use.
have you driven a Hyundai genesis sedan V8? It comes extremely close to a nice BMW or cadillac at 2/3rds the cost. The genesis coup gets compared to mustang GTs and Cameros. The sonata is the best in class.
Things change man.
15. PimpStrong (Posts: 310; Member since: 25 Jul 2011)
Sure, going from 480x800 to 720p and dual to quad core and having a completely different OS and skin and probably a completely different body is incremental.
But it's a pretty BIG increment.
20. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
lol i know seriously ehat else were people expecting other than that.. calling that a similar upgrade from a 4 to 4s is a joke.
16. GellerDoesDallas (Posts: 50; Member since: 26 Mar 2012)
Listen I don't give a damn what they call it and a 720p super Amoled plus screen and a quad-core processor is all I need, there is no need for a 1080p screen, it would be nice! But that is overkill, plus I don't think the GPU could handle that. Just give me the date and the price, I hate waiting.
69. Commentator (Posts: 3677; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
The GPU could handle it. The question is: could the battery?
18. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
dont care what its called. as long as it has a 720p non pentile screen,quad core cpu,bigger battery then i am happy...lol this is what we were all expecting anyways and just few days a go saying how awesome its gonna be,did you expect a 8 core cpu..this carrier doesnt reveal anything we didnt know,we knew the spec would be on par with the htc one x etc but its all about the implementation of spec with sw...the s2 had the same spec as every other phone last year,the only difference was that the exynos was better and i have know doubt it will be the same with the s3,same goes for the screen,have no doubt the amoled plus hd will be the best again....love to hear from people who say quad core,720p plus screen etc is incremental, what did you think the s3 would have instead?
19. Archan_Pe (Posts: 74; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)
OMG this you are kidding me right? LOL its like when people got the iPhone 5 craze they gave us a 4S instead so it will be a samsung galaxy S ll (s)? BUT nah... ITS SAMSUNG! they wont do that stupid thing. if I know... it will be a BANG!!!!
30. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Samsung copying Apple as usual. I'll laugh so hard at fandroids if they get the SIIs. Then what will they say?
40. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
lol taco how are they copying apple now,are they suppose show off there phone before announcement.