GDR2 update in India leaves Windows Phone 8 users unable to select Google as a default search option
0. phoneArena 17 Aug 2013, 08:12 posted on
The animosity between Microsoft and Google is growing to the point that these two tech titans could replace Apple and Samsung when it comes to the mobile industry's hottest rivalry; just last week, Google blocked Windows Phone 8 users from access to YouTube after the crew in Redmond offered a YouTube app to Windows Phone users that apparently continued to violate Google's ToS. Microsoft responded and the battle was on...
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1. joey_sfb (Posts: 5551; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
lol...I don't think it's a big deal for wp fans base to Bing it.
21. Kevinphantom (Posts: 82; Member since: 17 Jun 2013)
Even on googles stock browser on android there is (bling+yahoo+ask jeeves) )why f**king Microsoft don't want to use Google in their crap wp lite
28. Chakra (Posts: 130; Member since: 02 Dec 2009)
Have you been keeping up? May want to re-read the article again.
45. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Google and Microsoft hate each other. Microsoft scroogles Google, but Microsoft is scroogled. Microsoft is the one who started the stupid Scroogle campaign, and Nokia have to deal with the poor WP users.
This scroogle thing never ends...
44. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
And that's why he said "I" at the beginning of statement.
47. james004 (Posts: 486; Member since: 15 May 2013)
i never really had option for google, it always said either bing or yahoo. :(
51. gazmatic (Posts: 794; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
google sucks. literally
63. james004 (Posts: 486; Member since: 15 May 2013)
lol irony of you using google to explain that.
73. gazmatic (Posts: 794; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
i used google because google killed english
according to google, literally means figuratively now
not surprised that went over your head
81. Fishbowl (Posts: 22; Member since: 21 Jun 2013)
And the first result in your link shows why google isn't wrong in including it.
"But these quibblers are wrong. The un-literal definition of "literally" is not new. It has been used for at least 200 years, and we have the proof. Literally. "
The Oxford English Dictionary has also listed this secondary definition of the controversial term since 1903.
76. andro. (Posts: 1998; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
It is better,bing isn't great. I've long been a talker against windows mobile handsets and that's because they have been poor sellers and unpopular,the 520 however from Nokia has been a a good seller and the 625 should be the same. I've always been android first, although my current handset is a 925 for work and I like it. Yes android is certainly better, windows lacks apps and just a certain ease of use but after 4 years with android I'm liking the change. The 925 camera is awesome however and I use my Samsung android tab for games. Bing however should not replace Google search
20. dan86 (Posts: 298; Member since: 17 Mar 2012)
Google is better in all terms. It's the way people use internet.
39. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Sorry, but your trashy lil' Chrome-book doesn't hold a candle to my water cooled intel i7 LGA2011 desktop. Don't even mention your Android phone...
I think Google corporation is getting out of hand, and it's time to clip this bird's wings. The US justice department might be a good tool to ensure that Google plays fairly. It's also time they dropped that hypocritical "don't be evil" corporate motto. Let's not kid ourselves: GOOG is as evil as any other major company operating in the tech industry.
46. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"Sorry, but your trashy lil' Chrome-book doesn't hold a candle to my water cooled intel i7 LGA2011 desktop. Don't even mention your Android phone..."
How is that related with dan86's comment?
50. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
'Sorry, but your trashy lil' Chrome-book doesn't hold a candle to my water cooled intel i7 LGA2011 desktop'
65. rd_nest (Posts: 1593; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
You are using a liquid-cooled i7 desktop. Damn!
Well, I just use a lowly DL560 G8.
53. gazmatic (Posts: 794; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
google is crap. literally
30. SuperNexus (Posts: 127; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)
If this happens Then I am not going to update(GDR2) my Lumia .
Google is more important than this for me.
85. SuperNexus (Posts: 127; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)
I also Window Phone and Android Phone.
I don't think it is difficult to believe.
77. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Then you're a fool. You're not losing anything by using Bing (actually gaining, thanks to Bing Rewards), and if google is THAT important, pin google.com to your Start page!
What a whiner.
90. SuperNexus (Posts: 127; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)
Bing results aren't good as Google.
and there is nothing useful in GDR2 and 3 so, no problem for me.
68. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
believe or not still google is a better search engine......!!!
72. lyndon420 (Posts: 4143; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Doesn't sound to me like Google was involved with the Bing thing.
2. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1392; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
Well that's a stupid move
most people use/prefer google over Bing. I also find Google's result better than Bing's.
this move make strain on alot of windows phone users.
Google blocked YouTube which gave WP(their competitor) users a pain
Microsoft blocked the option to switch between Bing and Google and set Bing as default search engine which also resulted in pain on WP user (their own customers).
5. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
it will continue to escalate as both companaies act more and more childish
both are to blame and its the customers that are suffering due to these actions. but wait for the google fanboys to attack only microsoft and praise google for its actions
8. tedkord (Posts: 10915; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
I like both companies, but MS is mostly to blame. They knew the TOS for YouTube very well, but have continued to build apps that violate it. It was almost funny to watch MS cry about Google not being open last week.
11. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
True. And it's not like google has to make or allow anyone to view youtube (even though that's stupid).
TBH, both companies need to grow up, stop acting like 5 year olds, and sit down and work it out.
12. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
see i dont find any of this funny, its childish and pathetic
microsoft shouldnt have made the app it did but in one sense they were just trying to offer what there customers want that google wasnt. not saying they were right to but you have to agree googles clean do no evil image is peeling away
as for google there showing there lines of caring for the customer and not getting into petty wars was nothing more then bs.
what gets most people though on here is the fact if any other company had bought youtube and was not offering the service to android there would be an uproar. the fact its against another os has the android fanboys up on there high horse
17. tech2 (Posts: 3427; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Seriously, you need to work on your english. I am not bashing you but at times its literally incomprehensible.
MS already had metrotube which was quite good (not to mention other dozens of similar apps). Plus how on earth they couldn't know downloading of videos wouldn't violate youtube's T&S ?
and you seriously expect Google to just put their tail between their legs and keep on taking MS's Scroogled bashings and still release a youtube app when MS demands ?
22. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
what you really mean is you couldnt be bothered to read so took a pop for no reason, my comment is clear if you cant understand it dont reply. its that simple really
the fact was ms wanted an official app and seeing as google spout how they care for customers no mater what os. how they offer there services to iOS why wouldnt ms want to make sure there customers are level pegging with others
the marketing is just that, marketing. why you try to make it like google now have the right to say one thing and do the opposite is too sad now. the days of google been seen as innocent and a saint are gone. just wish people on here would see this for what it is-2 companies acting out and been childish. there actions in the end effect the customers.
those who cheer google on are too closed minded and need to remember just because right now only wp users are been affected doesnt mean microsoft wont escalate it and one day this could shatter both os's and ofcourse ruin the customers experience
im so bored of apple is evil, MS is evil, google care for us and have every right to do this (on any topic).
im sure many on here will react like ive burnt there house down as i havent praised google. they wont see that i havent praised MS either that will go over there heads thanks to there fanboyism
60. tedkord (Posts: 10915; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Microsoft has set up websites that block other browsers, you have to use IE. How they have the nerve to gripe about other platforms blocking them is beyond me.
Microsoft needs to realize that their pathetic number of WP users isn't leverage.
14. tech2 (Posts: 3427; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Also, they put out their Scroogled ads all the time criticizing Google's search engine.
Clearly, MS is pulling the same trick which they pulled by making IE as the default browser and violated EU's anti-trust charges which they were heavily fined for
16. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
the scroogled ads were marketing, every company markets against its competitors look at samsung.
marketing is a seperate thing to this, stop seeing only one side. google are not any cleaner then MS in this one. both are to blame
61. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
Show me an ad where Google marketed against its competition? Google, not Samsung.
29. Chakra (Posts: 130; Member since: 02 Dec 2009)
How are they mostly to blame? Google set totally different restrictions on Microsoft, that they don't hold for their own phones or apple's. While they allow apple and android to utilize native APIs of the OS, they demand that MS use HTML5, in which they'll have to rework their browser to accommodate.
Don't get me wrong, they are both jackasses, but to say that one is mostly to blame over the other (yes that goes to those who say google are mostly to blame as well) are just exhibiting bias.
32. MartyK (Posts: 808; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
You see the problem with everyone commets about Google is this-- the Gold Rule
Whoever OWNS the GOLD (Youtube), Makes the RULE (Google)!
Youtube is GOOGLE property!!..they can do whatever they want!!......OMG!!
41. Chakra (Posts: 130; Member since: 02 Dec 2009)
And all it's doing is affecting the customers. Get it!
48. dotcompt (Posts: 1; Member since: 17 Aug 2013)
I was a Google customer before I even used windows phone. So what you mean is that for Google you should fukc yourselves if you have windows phone no matter if use Google services since you can remember.Some customers are more important than others.
34. papss (unregistered)
How about you read what really is going on before . The android and ios app doesn't even require htpl5 but they want m$ to comply? Right.. Eff google and their software. I've been using Bing for a good while and I actually prefer it.
69. juandante (Posts: 463; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
The problem is not using HTML5 but using an application with easy to understand sources. Nothing proves that the publicities on the current Micro$oft app where effectively provided by Google and not Micro$oft themselves, if Micro$oft uses closed sources. The reaction of Google is perfectly normal.
71. blazee (Posts: 407; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)
Microsoft created an app that bypassed the ads before video, which is how youtube and the video creators make money. What if google made a skype app that bypassed the the requirement to to buy credits to make phonecalls? You think Microsoft would just blow it off and let them do what they want
27. gazmatic (Posts: 794; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
this is not universal....
i have the option but i never use google anyway
52. SuperNexus (Posts: 127; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)
Yeah! totally stupid move.
Now more reason not to buy Window Phone.
78. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I haven't used google since Bing came out. Seriously.
I don't have my searches tracked to profit google, which is great.
I get Bing Rewards, which has already netted me a Nokia Luna Bluetooth/NFC headset, entries to win contests, and credit to Microsoft Store for apps and merchandise.
86. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
You know your searches are tracked to profit MS instead? Also MS was known for piggybacking on Google search results for their own results, how you think your bing rewards get paid? Instead of bringing actual solutions to the table they decide they would rather pay you for searching with them
3. krysis (Posts: 76; Member since: 14 Dec 2009)
surprised they even gave the option to use google as default honestly. I mean, they do try pushing their own search engine, right..?
10. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
Even google gives the option to change the search engine (albeit, now with Google Now changing it means Google Now loses some functionality, but you are allowed to change it).
6. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2095; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
Hoping this rivalry will end soon. This is just . . .
49. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)
7. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
Both companies are acting like children. It's pathetic, really.
13. amansingal14 (Posts: 309; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
I really think they should just block Google on the PCs as well and not just Google, gmail, YouTube, drive etc. everything. Google needs to be taught a lesson
15. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
i think they both hould grow up, google have shouted how they wont be part of petty wars yet there just as low as others now. microsoft shouldnt have made an app with downloads etc (even if they saw it as the only option due to google not caring for wp customers)
whats bad about thia is it will escalate and microsoft could pull some real power moves..........all affecting the customers