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France Telecom's CEO: Apple iPhone's price could be scaring away buyers in Europe

0. phoneArena 06 Apr 2013, 03:19 posted on

The CEO of France Telecom, Stephane Richard, says European buyers are becoming too frugal to buy the Apple iPhone; Richard was interviewed when the executive visited Bloomberg's New York office and says that fewer buyers are after the latest and greatest handsets and are looking instead at purchasing cheaper data plans...

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posted on 06 Apr 2013, 03:27 8

1. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)


Oh really?! Who knew?! (sarcasm intended)

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 07:50 6

21. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


If you think it's something obvious, i have to disagree with Stephane Richard and you.

Honestly - there is not that much price difference between the latest HTC/Samsung/Sony flagship and an iPhone. The free retail price for an Samsung Galaxy S4 in Germany is listed at 629 €, while 609 € gets you the iPhone 5 16 GB.

So bury that "Android is cheaper" myth, it applies to midrangers only. If people prefer Android flagships, that's because they find them better.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 08:00 10

22. vangeodee (Posts: 10; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)


Galaxy S4? The S4 hasn't even been released yet and also note that the S4 will be a true HIGH-END/LATEST device. the iPhone 5 is months old already and it's price is still mingling with the price of the upcoming Smartphone of the year.

So yeah, I can see why Europeans find the iPhone expensive, so little for so much. heh

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 08:17 2

26. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


The iPhone retail price started at 679 € when it came out. 629 and 679 is about 8% difference.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 11:23 7

33. vangeodee (Posts: 10; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)


compare specs, features, screen size, battery size and the inclusion of an sd-card slot. that 8% is only a difference in number, if you compare the difference in the device itself, you will definitely see why Android is cheaper.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 11:49 7

34. tedkord (Posts: 12203; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


There isn't a difference in price between the iPhone and flagship Android phones - but there is a sizeable difference in what they offer, and people are starting to realize that.

They're seeing that the iPhone has basically been static, while Android has been evolving and adding features at a frantic pace, and has zoomed past iOS.

People who can afford either are more and more choosing Android, because they're willing to pay more to get more, but why pay more to be limited and get less?

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 13:18

43. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


That's basically what i said in the last sentence of #26.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 14:54

48. Aeires (unregistered)


Shhhh, Ardent might hear you say that.

I believe it's not so much about overall pricing, it's about getting the most bang for the buck. A lot of the flagship Android handsets offer more than the iPhone does. "It just works" doesn't work any longer as a catch phrase because Google has done wonders in making Android fast and smooth.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 16:25

51. tedkord (Posts: 12203; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


And Apple has stumbled quite a bit on the just works front.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 18:41 1

55. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)


So true, the S3 is still more in Australia than the Lumia 920. The Galaxy's are pretty expensive phones, I would put an iPhone first because of it premium build/design. But design is just a preference ;)

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 03:29 4

2. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Europe is facing another recession. It is only natural that consumers become frugal.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 06:08 4

12. doejon (Posts: 398; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


not realy. the other companies have much more to ofer for a lower prise than the rotten fruitcamp

and dont tell me ohhh the price is the same - yeah its the same on the first
rls date but a month later u can see..

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 03:44 5

3. jsdechavez (Posts: 731; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Even the carriers are feeling the effects of selling overpriced iPhones. It's not bringing back the promised profits of buying expensive phones. Could be the reason why US carriers are pulling out of the free phone plans. No prob in many countries where almost every phone is sold unlocked, yep, no subsidies.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 04:05 15

4. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 495; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


If iPhones sells their product at higher price. Bring something amazing then people will buy the stuff. But lately they are being overshadowed by Android, giving more goodies than iOS with lesser price. They changed their mind. Going Android might be the best choice. The thing is, Apple's Magic is not there anymore. Less Innovation and more price? Who will buy the stuff. Don't hate me, its just my opinion. ;)

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 07:27 8

17. therealestmc (Posts: 349; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


That's BS. How is the iphone anymore expensive tha, say, the galaxy note 2, which costs $970 in Germany? That's how much I paid for mine from Deuchtelekom. Smartphones are just too expensive, period. Not just iphones.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 08:04 6

23. vangeodee (Posts: 10; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)


I thumbed you up because of the "Smartphones are just too expensive" line

but replying to your Galaxy Note 2 - iPhone comparison, the price of the GNote 2 justifies the features and things that come with it. I dont know how much the iPhone 5 is in Germany but let's say $850 or so, would you pay that much dough for a phone that doesn't even have bluetooth, micro USB, SD card slot, removable battery and a 4" screen?

posted on 07 Apr 2013, 00:58

58. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)


Apple have lost their magical mojo. They give nothing back for their prices.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 04:17

5. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Of course, Euro is scary, just compare Indian Rupees with Euro.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 05:46 10

10. sorcio46 (Posts: 435; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


India has too many poors (hundreds of millions) and people that are even worse condition...

The problem here in Europe has nothing to do with our money, just at how much is stupid Apple to start selling the 16Gb iPhone 5 at over 700€ !

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 09:44

29. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Please read my reply to Nikolas.Oliver (Comment #28).

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 11:51 2

35. tedkord (Posts: 12203; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


India is in Asia, not Europe.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 07:35 3

18. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


europeans are MOSTLY RICH, except those in the south-east area (Greece, Albania, Israel) just look at their capita, mostly the scandinavia area (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark) it's not because europeans can't afford it, they can, but they think they don't have to shell out $600 for an iPhone, THAT SAID, iPhone holds it value longer than another phones, an used iPhone 4 still costs roughly $300-$400 on ebay, that's such a good price for a 3 years old Phone

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 09:42

28. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


I know I don't usually ask this, but, who thumbed me down?

I'm just saying that (€) Euro is scary, everything is expensive there, I'm comparing Indian Rupees (र) and Euro (€) is because in India, everything is cheap compared to most currencies out there including Euro (€).
1€ = $1.30
1र = $0.02
Can you see the difference?

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 10:07 1

30. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


One does not simply, Comparing Euro with Indian Rupees

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 11:52 4

36. sorcio46 (Posts: 435; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


"everything is expensive there"

Cause the cost of life is higher here compared to to countries of the second and third world?

Look at the salaries in Europe and India, in india is way lower and many people there are at the limit of the starvation.

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 12:01 4

38. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


it is expensive due to the Value Added Tax which can up to 25%, so that the government can build their country, In india, why do we have to pay tax when the road is a complete mess ?

why is the cost of life higher in first world countries? if the cost of life in the first world is as low as it is in third world, well then, there would be lots of inflation since the amount of money that is circulating is higher than the amount of items available,

That said, gadgets (smartphones, tablets, pcs, etc) are generally more expensive in third world, why? because the government doesn't want their country to be bombarded with imported products

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 12:19

41. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Urghhhh............don't talk about tax, especially government tax. In my country, taxes are getting higher and higher, like fast food restaurants, shopping centres. Even buying a smartphone includes government tax, I just hate it when I look at the recipt.

In India, you don't even need to afraid about taxes...........

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 16:48

52. sorcio46 (Posts: 435; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


Where I live taxes on EVERYTHING you can purchase are 22% and by December they will be the 23%

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 23:30

56. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Geez........that's scary, taxes are everywhere!

posted on 06 Apr 2013, 12:03

39. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


True! I agree with you!

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