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Foxconn workers go on strike to protest working conditions while assembling the Apple iPhone 5

0. phoneArena 06 Oct 2012, 01:12 posted on

Thousands of Foxconn workers went out on strike Friday, protesting the working conditions at the factories that churn out the Apple iPhone 5 and the third generation Apple iPad, among other products; management allegedly put new strict demands on workers assembling the Apple iPhone 5...

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posted on 06 Oct 2012, 06:22

21. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


both faults

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 06:34

23. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14169; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Apple isn't running the factory.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 09:43 1

32. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Apple is setting the QA testing criteria. I wonder how a "2/100ths of a millimeter" test criteria results in display light leakage and scratches on the outer shell?

That sounds more like sloppy construction being done to meet volume demands.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 15:45

48. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1719; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Apple funds it so yes, they are

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 04:06

17. rsxl5 (Posts: 65; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)


Well, have you ever been on any electronic assembly line?
Speed between SMT/DIP is crucial otherwise you may end up with bad boards (not sure if Apple use copper pads but it's likely due to the cost).

It's not only Foxcon ; it's everywhere.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 02:10 6

6. samystic (Posts: 230; Member since: 25 Mar 2012)


ban Apple... period

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 03:01 4

11. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Support "When the buying stops, the killing can, too" campaign.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 14:42

46. darkkjedii (Posts: 22025; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Ban YOU period.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 21:17

50. samystic (Posts: 230; Member since: 25 Mar 2012)


@darkkjedii not loving it fanboy? look in layman's terms 'Apple picked up things from other manufacturers who were sleeping on potential business making devices / technologies. Apple picked up the 'recipe' and added some garnishing and now is shouting that we are unique, genius, innovative, and all self praising adjectives'. it is killing others' businesses... not good...

samystic

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 02:25 1

7. kach22 (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)


The dark side of the "apple" Moon. But wait; the moon has only one dark side.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 02:31 3

8. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Hot damn. As if there weren't already enough delays over production of the phone.

I feel bad for the workers. Foxconn is really shooting itself in the foot here, and I don't doubt that if Apple is threatened badly enough, they'll pull their contract and find another factory chain to do the assembly for the iPhones.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 03:56 4

15. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


yea.. like whom exactly? lol. Same reason it's taking them forever to get away from Samsung. There isnt exactly a ton of other companies large enough with enough spare capacity and workers to keep up with the demand.

Apple just needs to quit being a money hungry beotch and treat their supply workers better.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 09:51

33. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Another part of the QA/QC problem (high reject rates) could be the manufacturing tolerances demanded are not able to be met in volume with current manufacturing technology being used at Foxconn or the parts manufacturers. Display light leakage is one example.

Scratched cases are more a factor of sloppy assembly, which could be due to worker carelessness. Or production lines being run too fast. Or, coating that is too thin for production line handling. Regardless, root cause analysis needs to figure where the problem is occurring and fix it.

Otherwise, Apple is going to have a problem on their hands that makes the problems with iMaps look like a minor bump in the road.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 02:56 1

10. JunkCreek (Posts: 407; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


after the suing over used, now the iphone 5 are over produced, over precised... over... hope not over. but SUING MUST OVER!

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 03:11 4

12. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


what the hell is wrong with foxconn? is the management of foxconn and apple so catastrophic? I don't hear problems from other OEMs. Apple can't even keep the hired workforce in line, let alone innovate.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 04:14

18. rsxl5 (Posts: 65; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)


Foxcon workers know that Apple needs iPhones 5 and they are using it to get rise. If they stop line for 2-3 days Foxcon management will have to agree to give them more money.

Smart move of Foxcon is that they already started replacing workers with robots. In short term workers are winning by getting more money ; in a long term Foxcon is to be a winner when they reduce human work force by 40-60%.

I know, I hate taking jobs from people as well but I do have some experience in manufacturing in China and basing on what I've seen it's inevitable and desirable way. The way that simple workers on the line sometimes were treating boards/final product when nobody was supposed to watch was 'unacceptable' (to be polite),

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 08:29

26. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


i simply wonder why apple did not have their own plant like samsung? they certainly have the cash for it.
What i speculate is that they do not want to shoulder the blame if there are physical defects in the end product. They can always blame the workforce or consumers if anything goes wrong.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 11:08

42. Aeires (unregistered)


Wrong, they'll just replace them from the thousands who stood in line and paid to be interviewed.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 03:46 4

14. Peter27 (Posts: 233; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


Chinese are one of the hardest working people that I know, so imagine how badly bullied they must be, and how much expectations there must be at the Foxconn if they are still not meeting their standards.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:18 1

36. infinitemethod (Posts: 149; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


They only make 93% on memory alone. Seems like they could py those poor people more money. It wouldn't raise the cost of the phone since they already charge insane amounts for it. $100 extra for 16GB and $200 for 48GB. Greedy ass company. I've enjoyed watching Apples stock price start to plummet.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 22:16

52. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Corporate "Thugs".

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:37

38. wolstenbeast (Posts: 25; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)


Foxcon is part of the problem, well to be exact their dependence upon Apple as one of their major clients, is the issue.
Apple uses its Economic Stranglehold to force production costs and quotas onto Foxcon This leads to the lowest wages in ANY FOXCON PRODUCTION facility, combined with the longest shifts and the least feasible production standards.
All the above are forced by Apple' s contractual terms.

Yes other manufacturers use Foxcon but these factories have much better working conditions in comparison to the Apple plants. Look at the reports on these factories in comparison to the Foxcon Samsung factories.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 10:41

39. galokjai (Posts: 36; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


For the people who are saying China and Foxconn are the reason or part of the reason for these riots, deaths, and conditions. Are you telling me they black mailed Apple to make their products in China instead of the USA? LMAO. I love people who deny and cannot handle the truth. This is the reason why this world is messed up. Because of people who like Apple products.

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 22:02

51. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Ploy to cause scarcity to kick up sales which isn;t as good as analysts had wanted it to be? Perhaps this is a game. Majority of the time whny is it that FOX is having CON(nish) problems? :)

posted on 06 Oct 2012, 22:28

53. RomeoJDR (Posts: 244; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


Suprised strikes can happen in China. Hopefully they dont roll in the tanks.

posted on 07 Oct 2012, 06:04

54. mrochester (unregistered)


As per usual, pretty much every comment completely misses the finer points of the issue at hand. The labour market in China simply does not warrant the sort of wages that many of you are expecting Apple to pay. Likewise, Apple pulling out of China would put millions of Chinese people out of work and doom them to a life of poverty. The sky high demand for products like the iPhone is precisely what is making the lives of Chinese people better.

Additionally, if Apple were to use some of their profit margin to subsidise employee's wages, you'd then end up with pay disparity between 2 people doing the same job. The people who were being paid less to put together Samsung et als products would then be the ones striking for better pay. For those companies who operate on razor thin profit margins, that could spell the difference between profit and loss. Apple could effectively wipe out a good chunk of it's competition by artificially raising the cost of labour. However, I suspect that would be highly illegal and anti-competitive, although some of you appear to be positively encouraging Apple to do just that.

My main point is that the issue is just so much more complicated and subtle than many of the passing commentators seem to appreciate; it's almost like people don't think before posting.

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