Foxconn denies strike is underway at iPhone assembly plant
0. phoneArena 07 Oct 2012, 04:45 posted on
Just as news of a strike involving thousands of workers at Foxconn’s Zhengzhou complex made its way around the world...
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1. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 7117; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
As usual the media makes it look worse than what it really is when it's related to Apple. There's probably nothing truly going on at Foxconn. It doesn't concern me if there is.
2. weinerslav (Posts: 126; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
Of course it doesn't concern you, you probably think that's nothing wrong with slavery...
3. darkkjedii (Posts: 16119; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
A strike and slavery r two totally different things. U don't get paid to b a slave, that's a bad analogy.
5. weinerslav (Posts: 126; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
When students are forced to work, that's slavey, when people have to fight to be paid has described by law, that's slavey, when they have to fight for vacations, that's slavery... and let's not talk about working conditions or living conditions. I'm sure you dont't care as long you keep living an awesome life full of shinny new gadgets, and that's why there was a need to create something known as human rights, because most of the people don't care.
7. darkkjedii (Posts: 16119; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Those people applied, and got hired. I don't approve of the sometimes harsh work conditions, but that's part of their job. I know cuz here n Las Vegas where I live I have to deal with forced OT, or get suspended and I've been subjected to suspension. I've been part of a labor strike also, so don't say I don't care dude cuz I care, understand, and have been on the picket line. However this is NOT slavery
I study history deeply, especially the history of my people and real slavery. Trust me what's going on at Foxconn is screwed up I agree with u on that, but doesn't even come close to being compared to slavery.
34. galokjai (Posts: 36; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
you again, you need to go to school. since you are brainwashed, i don't think you will ever realize the truth. Slavery is not determined by money...lol. It is determined by conditions. Have you ever been to Foxconn? I don't think so. It is like a prison. There are security guards with surveillance cameras everywhere. There are electric fences. They work 80 hours a week. 10 year old children work there. If they find out a woman is pregnant, they make them abort their own child. They sleep in prison like cells. They cannot go to the bathroom nor talk. I guess the place you work at is probably worse than this since you are claiming this working condition as the best place to work at in this world. People like are is what makes the world go bad.
9. darkkjedii (Posts: 16119; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I agree with u bro. There's far worse plight in this world to b concerned with than people having issues on there job while they get paid. I'm more concerned with human trafficking of little girl, forcing them into prostitution, kids starving in the world including our own USA, oppression of women and their god given rights, animal cruelty, homelessness, innocent people being sent to prison and the death chamber. That's plight, that's worse (a lot worse) than disgruntled workers that r being paid, but have issues with the parameters of the job. People sit in the living room, and blog all day while scarfing down pizza and playing world of Warcraft. If u r really concerned get in a plane and go to Foxconn, protest with them, and help them create change. I struck, and protested on my job when we were upset about work conditions, and I rescue abused animals for a local adoption agency here n vegas and I don't get paid for it. I actually do some of the things I have a passion for. Lets see how many of these couch potato apple haters do the same.
35. galokjai (Posts: 36; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
are you claiming China and Foxconn black mail Apple to have their products made in China? LMAO!!!
49. weinerslav (Posts: 126; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
I agree with you on that, there are other issues, and one of the causes dearest to me is animal cruelty, my dog was rescued from a shelter where I'm quite sure she wouldn't survive for long, but none of those are tech related, and none of those make what's happening at foxconn right... So, it could be worse, but that doesn't make it right!!
11. Topcat488 (Posts: 1286; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Foxconn simply noted that it had received instructions from Apple to enhance the quality inspections of the iPhone 5 in response to customer complaints. Those working on the Apple iPhone 5 must be precise within two-hundredths of a millimeter. According to the China Labor Watch (CLW), workers could not turn out phones that precise because of design defects with the latest version of Apple's iconic smartphone.
This doesn't concern YOU... This is in direct response to YOU... Forcing workers to meet almost impossible tasks... If i was one of those Chinese SLAVES, I too would continue to leave a screw loose (light leaks), smack & dent the outer housing (chipped iphones), make sure it takes purple pictures and more, as my little protest against Apples greediness, and their non-caring customers!!! Just my opinion.
13. darkkjedii (Posts: 16119; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Dude your post was weak. U simply wanted to get in some iPhone 5 jabs and make it look intelligent. However u failed, apple is no more greedy than Samsung, Htc, google or any other company. As I've said before, it's easy to sit on the couch and point the finger at the company u hate, while giving a pass to the ones u like. Apples produces far more products than some of these other companies therefore the work load is greater. If they can't hang quit, and find another job. See a slave wouldn't have the option to guit, and seek other (employment) cuz slaves aren't employed they're forced oppressed, and persecuted.
14. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
no one agrees what you and mxzptlk says!
17. darkkjedii (Posts: 16119; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I could care friggin less about who agrees with me dude. I can't believe uneven posted that to me. I look forward to thumb downs, Cuz It shows how little the minds r that r doing it. I never make biased comments, instead I make comments that r true and knowledgeable. People don't agree with me and mxzptlk. SO FRIGGIN WHAT!!! Oh and I'm gonna give u a thumb up too
20. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
This site seems to be making u mad.
Don't get involved in these unnecessary, high-stress situations when u know ur gonna get bashed for whatever you post.
I'm sure ignoring the comments and resisting the urge to post will make ur life better.
22. darkkjedii (Posts: 16119; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I think you're right, but it doesn't actually anger me instead it shocks me at how simple people can b.
29. serious9010 (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
+1 for ur comments darkkjedii ! Speak up ! :)
43. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
just another taco......dont worry his fate will be the same .if he chooses not to see differently
50. darkkjedii (Posts: 16119; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
My fate will be the same? What do u mean I'll get banned? I'll be using an iPhone? What will my fate be exactly? Dude these r cell phones nothing more nothing less. They have nothing to do with fate, they have to do with going shopping for a phone dude. Experia sometimes u make good points but most of the time u take things wayyyy too serious, and u get too emotional. My fate c'mon man... Really my fate will be the same. Dude take a chill pill man. U know what my fate will be? I'll tell u exactly... One day I'm going to die, that's my fate. Don't know when, don't know how, don't know where, but I guarantee u that that'll b my fate. And every one else's too.
36. galokjai (Posts: 36; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
The other companies are so greedy that they have morals for their workers and their profits are only 1 million a year compared to Apple's LMAO!!!
21. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
You know, iTotally agree with you!!
Apple is not the eViL iNcarnate that it is made out to be. We must remember, the eViL that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones. So let it be with Apple.
Apple has done a great deal in the past couple of years to bring the average work day at Foxconn from 36 hours down to just 25. Apple has benevolently added more officials iHolidays to the calendar, more recently October 3rd, 4th and 5th are designated as ReliGious iHolidays in memory of Steve Jobs. And, I don't think they run a slÅve camp at Foxconn.
[ psyche!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ]
4. weinerslav (Posts: 126; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
Edit: Sorry, wrong place, the answer is up
6. someones4 (Posts: 622; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
of course foxconn would say that. no company would publicly acknowledge that they have a number of consecutive strikes in a row.
" hey apple, we have another strike here. Do you want to fire them all , cut their pay or overwhelm them with more work like we usually do?
12. Kronic (banned) (Posts: 321; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)
Fandroids can't stop trolling. Try being neutral like me, it's way better than being biased.
15. darkkjedii (Posts: 16119; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Exactly bro. I'm neutral also, but I'll defend apple against the android haters, and android against the apple haters. These people r hardly shaves though. They have a very demanding job, that they applied for now just do it. Dude I drive a bus in Las Vegas, i know harsh work conditions. Let me explain... This is Vegas transient Capitol of the world, I've been physically assaulted, spat on, called every racist name in the book (I'm a black man), I've had hot coffee thrown on me, cold drinks, food, u name it. I've had to get up, and fight back cuz there's no protective barriers, security, or self defense other than myself. We are actually encouraged by our superiors to stay n the seat and endure this crap. The women, and elderly drivers get it even worse. I'm 6'5" 250 and in pretty good shape, and I still catch hell and all this comes as a result of enforcing the superiors rules. People r cool as long as u let them slide on everything, but when u do your job and enforce the rules it's a different story. They talk about harsh labor conditions, I work thru them everyday. As the old saying goes. If u don't like it QUIT!!!
18. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
mate i gotta call you up on many things
first your neutral- your far from neutral i have yet to see you defend anyone other then apple, you comments always pro apple never in the slightest way neutral.
second comparing your job to there and somehow thinking you know hard working conditions is just unbelievable. you have not had it as bad as them. do you think you could work like that and do it to apple's unreasonable demands. you cant think you have had it even closely as bad as they do.
and dont use the race card, racism is something everyone is subject too nowadays. its standard in the world we live in.
''They talk about harsh labor conditions, I work thru them everyday. As the old saying goes. If u don't like it QUIT!!!''
first again your job cant even compare to theres, second seeing as you just complained about your own job why dont you take your own advice
24. darkkjedii (Posts: 16119; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
First of all u don't know what my job compares too, cuz u don't do it just as I don't do there's. I'm speaking of handling the conditions of the job u applied to do. Second of all I absolutely love my job and have been at it for 16 years. My own advice is to retire from it, so I will take my own advice. I never said I didn't like, or couldn't handle my job. I said its a tough job, now b a good little boy and run along and play.
27. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
lol, that was funny...
Beavis: "He said 'neutral'"
31. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
wow look how 'mature' you are calling me a little boy, dont you like it when people call you on the crap you comment.
and for the record you are a ifan, and one of the worst as you have the sense that you are more knowledgeable then anyone else on here. maybe you should be a good boy and get a reality check.
bottom line is you compared your job to theres as if you have been through just as bad when you havent , they would love a job as easy as yours compared to theres......and before you say 'so you think my jobs easy' no i said compared to theres your job is.
so you should go play outside get a dose of reality
39. galokjai (Posts: 36; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
You work in a place worse than Foxconn? How you get access to the Internet then?
25. darkkjedii (Posts: 16119; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Oh and the reason u hardly see me defend android is bcuz iOS users hardly bash android. We/they r a more mature bunch.
30. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
lmao are you joking me, first off you arent a mature bunch get off your high horse on that one
and second ios users do nothing but slag off android so dunno where you get that from
32. darkkjedii (Posts: 16119; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I'm gonna show u how mature I am chaoticrazor. This debate/argument/disagreement or whatever it is, is over. I have more important things to worry about, like my steelers beating the eagles and my Yankees beating the oriels. U have a good day sir
38. galokjai (Posts: 36; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
typical steelers fan...they are so cocky...LMAO... you never answered any of my questions because you know you are wrong. Steelers fan never admit they lose or anything they have done bad...so typical
40. galokjai (Posts: 36; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
then what are you doing now hypocrite? what you bash android on? how people who own android have morals and care about the world compared to the selfish Apple lovers?
41. galokjai (Posts: 36; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
so you work 80 hours a week? your co-workers are 10 year old kids? you don't get to go to the bathroom and can't talk the whole time? at night, you sleep in prison like cells? women who are pregnant must have their child aborted? i didn't know this work condition was at Las Vegas. Are you sure you live in America?
16. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
More lke, try being wize, smart,...
19. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
No matter how hard Foxconn denies it, it won't bring back the lives of their employees who committed suicide last year. Very disappointing.
I was also expecting that they would rather say something like, "it's normal," as a response. Seems like they never learn a thing from Apple after all. Double disappointment.
26. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Foxconn did nothing because apple is perfect and wonderful..right, MYX and darkkjedi?
37. galokjai (Posts: 36; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)
but is is easy to decide where your products are made if you cared about people
42. darkvadervip (Posts: 365; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)
I personally don't care about there conditions because I care more about the homeless here in the USA not another country. Its messed up but I feel its there country and we need to get out of there business. All we can do is pray about it and carry on. We can't keep going to war or sticking our nose in it. If anything why don't you all let Samsung and Apple know you can bring those jobs here under temp jobs with no benefits
51. gallitoking (Posts: 4704; Member since: 17 May 2011)
pretty sure foxxConn is already replacing those workers.. feel bad for the employess at strike but this is a business and if you cant work there is a line that will do it... is sad but is the truth
54. someones4 (Posts: 622; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
It is a fact in China. Problem is apple and foxconn can't even begin to address these issues and bring about a solution. Foxconn must be the holder of the record 'manufacturer with the most riots ever'.
52. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Speaking of China, the U.S. and Obama are in the process of rebuilding the infrastructure - building/repairing bridges, for example - and guess who got a job helping out? Yep, the Chinese workers....