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Fourth-generation Apple iPad has quad-core PowerVR SGX 554 GPU under the hood

0. phoneArena 02 Nov 2012, 20:24 posted on

Inside the A6X chip that powers the fourth-generation Apple iPad is the Power VR SGX 554 GPU which helps to double the performance of the tablet in comparison with the third-generation model of Apple's slate; the chip is 30% larger than the A6 found inside the Apple iPhone 5...

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posted on 02 Nov 2012, 20:28 39

1. Android4u (Posts: 456; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


still prefer the nexus 10!!

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 03:32

28. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1059; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


ok so the Ipad 4 has that...SO??!

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 07:49 5

35. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6624; Member since: 14 May 2012)


iPad doesn't have 300ppi on it's screen now does it?

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 08:02 4

37. PhenomFaz (Posts: 1059; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


nope only the Nexus 10 has that :)

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 10:15 3

38. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


STOP MAKING ME JELOUS JUST CUZ I OWN AN APPLE IPAD 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 10:40 1

39. atsamman (Posts: 72; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


the nexus 10 isnt out yet and the android fans already bragging about it omg
guess that just indicates how bad they wanted a hi-res screen like the ipad

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 20:31 14

2. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 819; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


I perfer games on iOS devices anyways. Developers seem to favor the fact that they are only developing for a set number of devices. Very few games are properly optimized for my Android phone :(.
I think that iDevices are better "toys" and Androids are better actual (overall) devices.... but sometimes a toy is good.
I don't find any need for an iPad, I'd (rather) buy a laptop with a nice GFX card for the same price.... and play real games.

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 20:57 1

5. downphoenix (Posts: 2232; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


its true that at that price, you can get a laptop with more performance. However, its also true that software development on the Ipad can be more tailored to and designed around its hardware, to be more efficient. Thus a game like Infinity Blade Dungeons for instance can pump out some great graphics that are close to console quality and do so with great framerates an resolutions. A laptop in the $500 price range may be able to decently handle games, and if optimized well can even do better than the ipad in some games, but some games will be terribly optimized for that hardware and cause you to dumb down the settings, suffer framerate drops, etc. the game experience on a $500 Ipad will definitely be more consistent than a $500 laptop.

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 21:09 1

6. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 819; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


I agree. I've played Infinity Blade and I've have to say, it does look very nice. BUT! That game is really boring. All you do is swipe across the screen a thousand times and press the "magic" buttons when they light up. I (personally) didn't like it that much. But it is still a very nice game.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 12:32

47. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)


the graphics are sweet. even on my itouch

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 10:49

41. atsamman (Posts: 72; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


not just games mate
alotta apps and for me some very important apps don't exist or either look much uglier android market has alotta apps but 90% of them or so are just rubbish
its just so frustrating

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 16:20

48. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 819; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Not necessarily. If you have 4.x, apps look much better with the refined UI. I'd say that Android has most of the important apps, but I tend to stay away from the big developers.
I perfer to get apps made by smaller developers and support them. Much like supporting small business compared to large corporations. but... that's just me.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 22:38

51. luckysrinu (Posts: 13; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


real games?

posted on 04 Nov 2012, 07:13

53. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 819; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


yeah, real games.

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 20:34

3. hung2900 (Posts: 714; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


That's make raw performance lovers who bought the older new iPad get mad lol!

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 20:50 8

4. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


When it comes to graphics i believe PVRSGX leads others®©

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 23:00 5

13. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5483; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


it's true, i don't know why you got so many thumbs down for that.
Qualcomm's Adreno 320 graphics only rivals the PVR SGX543(MP4) which has been out for a year now.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 06:02 4

31. OHaZZaR (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)


It only has so many thumbs downs because it's apple related and everyone in phone arena is biased towards apple. You must be new here :P Either way, I agree that it is true. Even the Nexus 10 with the mali 604 can't really keep up with the powervr based on reviews. Don't get me wrong it is still powerful, but in real life tests, the powervr does better. That's not to say the iPad is a better tablet, just better at gaming, which everyone has to admit is true. I'm not being biased here since I'd get the nexus 10 over the iPad 3rd generation and just maybe over the 4th generation, especially with the widget support and incredible screen, but the iPad is better at gaming. I see myself getting dislikes cause I said something good but true about apple that does not involve marketing or the ability to sue.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 07:51 1

36. PapaSmurf (Posts: 6624; Member since: 14 May 2012)


They're not new here....

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 11:35 2

43. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


hes not new here, Kingkurogii has been posting for years+.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 11:55 1

45. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5483; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


i've been around for a long time actually and the majority of commenters from this site are definitely more biased towards Android. you're either the one that's new here or you don't come here often. xD
it's true, the iPad is more ideal for gaming. i'd still get a Nexus 10 for sure though.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 03:46

55. OHaZZaR (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)


My bad, I just realised I said biased towards apple xD And I was just kidding about calling you a newbie, and I've been visiting phonearena everyday for a few months, so I'm still new here, but the hate towards apple is unmistakable. It's sometimes even unreasonable, Apple doesn't make the worlds crappiest products. The iPhone 5 is still a great phone, just not as much of a game changer as the iPhone 4 or the original iPhone. It still has apps and games, a great screen and a beautiful design. The iPad mini is a joke, I'm sorry but apple is conforming, which is bad for a company that "thinks different" and asks you to do the same. I do adore the new iPad and the new New iPad.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 07:57

56. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5483; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


oh, yeah, the strongest feelings around here are definitely for Apple. i love Apple's hardware. i don't like how repetitive they are but they design beautiful, powerful products. in fact until i felt the Droid Razr MAXX HD the iPhone 5 had the most impressive construction of any phone i've ever felt but iOS is just too terribly stale now, it's completely unforgivable and they've made a lot of very questionable decisions over the past few years and they totally screwed up the iPad Mini. they don't learn anything from their competition.

posted on 05 Nov 2012, 13:47

57. OHaZZaR (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)


Here's hoping Sir Jony Ive fixes iOS.

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 21:11

7. networkdood (Posts: 5518; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Droid RAZR GPU is also from PowerVR...

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 23:03 1

14. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5483; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


yeah and it's two and a half years old. the SGX540 in the Razr is just a highly clocked single core GPU. it's still not even a bad GPU.

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 21:23 2

8. Dacha (Posts: 12; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Once again Phone-arena is advertising Apple products. The truth is "Teardown confirms: new iPad is really iPad 3.5"
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/11/fret-not-ipad-3-owners-ipad-4-is-still-just-an-ipad/

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 11:20

42. tusshharish (Posts: 334; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


make it better .....its iphonearena again....

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 21:37 4

9. theBankRobber (Posts: 642; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


So this just means Apple will start releasing Ipads more then once a year just to keep up with Android tablets. But next month something will come out even better. Even if Apple owns alot more tablet market, when you look at the nexus tablet, it can't be beat with quality and price.

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 22:26 4

11. Xquisite (Posts: 87; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)


Typical fandroid.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 00:19

20. quakan (Posts: 1079; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


You tell 'em Jeter * in a southern accent*

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 02:14 1

26. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)


guess who you are?
hint: starts with apple, ends with fanboy

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 11:52

44. quakan (Posts: 1079; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


Guess what you aren't? Creative or original.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 19:27

49. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)


I am Fu*ked up pretty bad so from that definition i am dump and also original and creative and not ordinary. and yeah it suck so you can shave this creative or original up your butt hole

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 20:44

50. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5483; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


lol, i wouldn't know what to say to that. xD

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 21:51 8

10. champ_vl (Posts: 44; Member since: 31 Aug 2012)


I love Androids and other OSes but when it comes to tablets I must say I'd rather buy and iPad 3 or iPad 4 than an Android tablet (maybe except the upcoming Nexus 10). When it comes to smartphones, Apple is no longer the King (it was until they released the iPhone 4S) but when it comes to tablets, I think that Apple rules. The build quality is superb, quality materials and best battery performance not to mention the Retina display and probably, the most important aspect, most of the games and apps are optimized for the iPad, unlike Androids and other. When it comes to tablets, Android has some catching up to do.

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 22:33

12. Toad222 (Posts: 9; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


The SGX's are some pretty lethal GPU's, but it's not enough to buy it. Sorry Apple

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 23:04

15. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5483; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


then you'll want to keep an eye out for the OMAP5. Texas Instruments SoC's have PowerVR Graphics.

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 23:35

16. tyger11 (Posts: 51; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


Sadly, TI is exiting the game. Hopefully someone appropriate will buy up their OMAP work. The latest rumour I've heard is Amazon, which would not be ideal, but could be a lot worse (like a competitor such as Samsung or Qualcomm).

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 00:50

21. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5483; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


they're going to release the OMAP5, that hasn't changed but maybe if they see more success with it then they'll reconsider.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 00:07

17. JunkCreek (Posts: 379; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


thats right. most people always look up gor its cpu power and ram capacity first and they forget about the IMPORTANT THING using pc-like-device: VGA-GPU CARD power. may be because of this iDevice is smoother than any AnDroid device.

may be again, it is time to manufactures and developer begin to mention it's mobile phone hardware dpecs down to gpu card, how much powerfull it is. and hoping someday, we can do hardware swap for mobile phone just like we can do on pc-s and some laptop/notebook.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 00:09

18. JunkCreek (Posts: 379; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


thats right. most people always look up gor its cpu power and ram capacity first and they forget about the IMPORTANT THING using pc-like-device: VGA-GPU CARD power. may be because of this iDevice is smoother than any AnDroid device.

may be again, it is time to manufactures and developer begin to mention it's mobile phone hardware dpecs down to gpu card, how much powerfull it is. and hoping someday, we can do hardware swap for mobile phone just like we can do on pc-s and some laptop/notebook.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 00:52 1

23. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5483; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


you should know you're a little lacking in knowledge on this particular subject...

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 00:11 1

19. Kronic (banned) (Posts: 321; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)


Oh yeah!!! This is called power! It will definitely beat nexus 10s Mali-t604

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 00:51 1

22. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5483; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


it might just do it. o:

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 01:25 3

24. Hemlocke (unregistered)


It's actually not even close. The iPhone and iPad 3 beat the N10 more often than not in real-world speed and benchmarks. The 4 destroys it.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 01:49 2

25. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5483; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


apparently you haven't seen the Mali-T604 in action playing a game. even Matias Duarte admits the Exynos 5250 is the only SoC that is capable of pushing the amount of pixels present in the display on the Nexus 10. the SoC itself is quite powerful as can be seen on Samsung's newest Chromebook but maybe the Nexus 10's Drivers are bad or the amount of pixels present in the Nexus 10 really do dampen the scores a bit or maybe a combination of the two. the Nexus 10's first impressions contradict way too much about the power of the 5250 to just chalk it up to overcharged expectations.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 03:18 2

27. Hemlocke (unregistered)


Apparently I have, and apparently you don't understand marketing speak. The facts are that the iPad 4 has a far more powerful GPU (SGX554MP4) than the T-604. You guys act as if the A6, and its derivations, are some last-gen junk. The T-604 at MAX frequency (~750 Mhz) is still only capable of 68 GFLOPS performance, whereas the 554MP4 is capable of 76.8...at 300Mhz. The A6X, and even the A6, destroy the Exynos 5250.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6426/ipad-4-gpu-performance-analyzed-powervr-sgx-554mp4-under-the-hood

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 10:49

40. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 156; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


Are those T-604 GFlop numbers of a MP1 at such frequency? I doubt T-604MP4 at 750MHz would only achieve 68GFlops.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 12:07

46. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5483; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


don't get your panties in a knot. i never said the PVR was bad or last gen, in fact i'm more partial to PVR Graphics. i even just said earlier the SGX554(MP4) might just beat the Mali-T604. you're the one that seems to be insinuating an SoC's slouchiness around here. the Exynos 5250 is by no means weak and it still performs greatly. maybe you missed what i said earlier about the underwhelming performance from the 5250 only when it's tested in the Nexus 10 and the tested Nexus 10's are only pre-production.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 04:06 1

30. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Real world performance on IOS doesn't say much about the chip.
In cross platform benchmarks the A15 is simply another league compared to swift.
Expect up to 2500 - 3000 score on geekbench, compared to A6X's 1750.
That's how things really are.

GPU is a separate story and I give that one to Apple, but overall the Exynos is far ahead

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 06:17

32. therealestmc (Posts: 129; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


On a dual core CPU, I highly doubt doubt that. Now imagine a quad core A6x with this kind of GPU. I would destroy anything in its path.

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 06:55 2

33. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Yes, a dual core A15 > swift.
It's not even a contest really.
Just go read Anandtech analysis of Apple swift (A6 )..they even go as far to say that cortex A15 is a generation ahead in terms of performance.

What's relatively hindering for the Nexus 10 is its resolution and GPU(compared to this 554mp4)

And you imagine a quad core A15 CPU with octa core Mali t-658 GPU in the upcoming Exynos 5540.
It is already in production and you can expect it in the next Samsung Galaxy 10 tablet

posted on 08 Nov 2012, 07:33

58. LOTR12 (Posts: 13; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)


Can someone please tell me the frequency of the 12-core Nvidia graphics from the T33 Asus infinity tegra3 processor

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 03:59 1

29. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


This GPU just might outperform the Mali 604
However in overall chip performance the Exynos 5 is WAY ahead.. right now that doesn't mean much because of the light nature of iOS.. but looking past that it actually means you get a full pc capable device in the Nexus 10 while iPad will always stay restricted

posted on 03 Nov 2012, 07:40 1

34. NokiaFTW (Posts: 798; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


Nexus 10 is anyday better than the ipad 4 !!

posted on 04 Nov 2012, 06:35

52. JunkCreek (Posts: 379; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


OOT:

This is PROOF that Android user more hater than idealism, i said something good 'bout Apple's smoothness than Android and i had thumbs downed!

h3ck, like i give it a d4mn. just to tell everybody else, there iS REALLY HATERS HERE AND ALSO TROLL, the ugly faced monster with ugly shape and ugly mouth said ugly speech and had VERY UGLY FINGERS. i Wonder, how their giRlfriNd liVe wiTh those ugly fiNger...

posted on 04 Nov 2012, 13:36

54. LOTR12 (Posts: 13; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)


Can someone please tell me the frequency of the 12-core Nvidia graphics from the T33 Asus infinity tegra3 processor

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