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Former manager at Microsoft reviews Android and the Samsung Galaxy S II, gives two thumbs down

0. phoneArena 12 Dec 2011, 03:02 posted on

After spending some time with a Samsung Galaxy S II, Charlie Kindel, former Manager at Microsoft, shared his thoughts in his personal blog. He was not happy with the overall user experience...

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posted on 12 Dec 2011, 12:05 1

48. dallas90733 (Posts: 36; Member since: 06 Mar 2011)


Omg..b4 Win7..the worst phones in the world..freeze-stuttering-battery pulling-block phones..Then Android came alone..a slice of both world IOS (price) and Window (customize rom)..life is good now...Sprint SGSII :)

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 06:12

22. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


hes being bias because of microsoft -_-

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 06:35 1

23. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


His comment is kinda nerdy and overreacting. Both WP and Android has good points and bad points. The way he comment it, is as if SG2 Android OS is utter crap and WP is super perfect.That's not right.

I agree that Metro UI is fluid and smooth. But that doesn't mean Android has no room for improvement. Infact, its been improving update by update same as Windows Phone. The only thing is that Android has more feature support like LTE, Dual Core, etc.. :)

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 07:23 5

24. Lwazi_N (Posts: 205; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


Let us be realistic, not even the best WP7 phone can compete against the SGS II

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 10:18

36. vslayer (Posts: 34; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)


im not against andoid b but i think windows 7 phones are great for me despite of the specs on board ,,,,, no lags whatsoever on n 1ghz processor ..... and in terms of web browsing i think s2 is a clear winner but that too much i think u compare windows phone 7(updated to mango) to all 1ghz single core processor out there (even i phone or blackberry) its a far behind ....whew!!!

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 07:59 1

26. droidwave (Posts: 2; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)


and this is why wp7 is below android

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 08:09 4

27. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


just to make a point..

he left MS to go create is own company. That does not mean he doesnt still have ties to MS through friends, family, and possible future/current business deals. He would be about as objective as asking steve jobs or Balmer (must... punch... balmer) to give his opinion on the SGS2.

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 09:11 3

28. T00muchF00D (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Nov 2011)


I have a windows phone and I love it. Guys I got to tell ya its the best phone operating system out there I've had webOS, iPhone,blkberry, and Android. And the Android I used was a froyo 2.2 Os. Windows phone actually lets me use my time doing things on it that is important. With android I had to constantly drop down the notification bar to clear all that and go into android task killer all the damn time. With windows phone you have a buttery smooth UI that moves at 60 frames per second. You can control you Xbox with you windows phone. Now with the new update on your Xbox developers can make gets to do multiplayer between the phones and the Xbox. Everything (EVERYTHING) you need to do is one touch or two away.i buy something on my phone ONCE and im able to have it on my wp7, Xbox, and zuneHD. It has Zune built in. Bing is built in and it is baked in with features like local scout, visual search (searching with the camera) voice (duhh...or siri lol) and music (by sound). Google search finds your search, but Bing when you search for hmmm lets say.... Dominios pizza....Bing will search the web for it...find its web domain...find news on them...find the nearest one....phone number....customer rating...and pictures. All in one search....all you gotta do is swipe left or right since those searches are is there own section so that search's dont look sloppy. I switch phones alot but ever since I got a WP7 I never switch my phone. I got 4 ppl at work to leave their androids and they love it. In there own words they said...."I love how its not crashy and consuming like android". Seriously guys...give it a chance. There is too much to go over but go read reviews of windows phone 7 (ver. Mango)

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 10:00 1

33. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


lol you obviously havent used android properly, or the the in built places app.

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 09:14 1

29. T00muchF00D (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Nov 2011)


also they have true multitasking unlike Android and ios. Don't say "ohj android does" no they dont. They have backround running apps. WP7 you can look at them all at once like webOS did

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 09:23 6

30. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


lol. the ONLY system that has true multitasking right now IS android. that whole "background running apps" you mentioned.. we call that "multitasking". lol.

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 09:29

32. davin8r (Posts: 45; Member since: 28 Apr 2011)


I'd get a Windows phone in a heart beat, *if* the hardware were anywhere near the Androids. Where are the dual-core processors and hi-def screens?????

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 10:03

34. T00muchF00D (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Nov 2011)


So background running apps to you is multitasking? Lmao sucks for you. I have true multitasking. I can see all my apps up and running on my screen or have them in the background by choice. Don't just say you have true multitasking and think that makes you have it. You actually need to be able to

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 10:53 2

41. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Second on the list of missing Windows Phone 7 features is true multitasking, something that Android also had from day one, and that was later introduced for the iPhone. To be more precise, Windows Phone 7 does not allow third-party apps to run in the background, but pauses them until you return to the app

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 11:04 3

42. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


iOS doesnt have true multitasking either. they use the pause/freeze method. thats where WP7 got that from :) iOS went from NO multitasking to the fake freeze that they use now. its an improvement, but true multitasking it is not.

BTW, TMF,
On any android device, if you hold down the home key for 2 seconds, it shows you every app you are currently running. Its always been like that. I have no idea what your talking about.. lol

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 11:27 1

44. tigermcm (Posts: 856; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)


ummmm with the whole pausing of the apps in the background isnt that what gives wp7 the "no lag" experience?

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 11:48 3

45. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no.

The "no lag" experience comes to the fact that WP7 and iOS both give top priority to finger movements. The entire system stops what its doing so it can devote full resources to keeping the FPS high and make a nice smooth transition effect. NOTHING will ever happen as long as you are moving the screen. Android lags a bit because things keep happening in the background.. aka Multitasking. It takes up a lot more resources and needs more horsepower to stay smooth.

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 11:57 1

46. antifanboy (banned) (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)


You have no clue what you're talking about. Things continue to run when iOS and windows show animations. Android needs to be rewritten from the ground up. It was rushed to compete with iOS. Rushed copycat job.

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 12:38 2

49. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1721; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


oh man rushed yet #1 OS oh that sucks...oh wait NO IT DOESNT

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 13:47 1

53. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3109; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


For someone whos an antifanboy you sure are the biggest apple fanboy around.

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 14:02

55. antifanboy (banned) (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)


It's not being a fanboy if it's true. If you say android is more customizable it's true. Remix is trying to make it out like having a lag free experience is a bad thing. That's like me saying free navigation is bad. Android was rushed into touchscreens to compete with iPhone. It was being developed for a trackball. That's a fact.

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 21:35

62. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


antifanboy is taco.

they havent banned this fake account yet taco?? OI. on day you will speak with knowledge instead of gas escaping from the wrong hole.

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 21:48

64. antifanboy (banned) (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)


Remember you said android hasn't taken anything from Apple. Now that we have undeniable proof that android was going to have a trackball and only went touchscreen after they saw the iPhone are you ready to admit you're wrong?

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 10:15 1

35. christiandicken7 (Posts: 3; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


The funny thing is the article writer is justifying in the end saying, "He has nothing to do with wp7 now, so if he's cursing Android, he's right." Its his opinion dude, how about writing an article on our opinion?

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 10:23

37. vslayer (Posts: 34; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)


im not against andoid b but i think windows 7 phones are great for me despite of the specs on board ,,,,, no lags whatsoever on n 1ghz processor ..... and in terms of web browsing i think s2 is a clear winner but that too much i think u compare windows phone 7(updated to mango) to all 1ghz single core processor out there (even i phone or blackberry) its a far behind ....whew!!!

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 10:52 1

40. captn3x (Posts: 46; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)


I agree with him 100%. I talked at least 10 people into getting Android devices and the truth is, 8 out of the 10 can't handle the force closing, the lag, or all the menus. I did my own little unofficial investigation. When I'm at a bar or restaurant at night I'll ask people how they like there phones. All iPhone people say "I love this phone" (makes me want to punch them in the mouth)lol. Windows phone people say "I love the phone but I wish it had more apps. And Android phones users say one of two things, either, "it's alright" or "I am so sick of this piece of crap I should have gotten an iPhone". (Which makes me want to tell them to not drink the coolaid! My point, I now tell my geeky friends to get an Android device, friends that already have an iPod should get an iPhone, and everyone else I tell get a WP7.

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 11:59 1

47. antifanboy (banned) (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)


Why does it upset you if people are happy with their iPhone? It's not drinking cool aid if you like the phone from first hand experience using it.

I agree with his opinion. I think windows phones will take a lot of marketshare from android. Just look at the poor satisfaction rates from android users.

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 12:54 2

51. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Keep. Dreaming

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 15:48 2

57. captn3x (Posts: 46; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)


I have to admit I admire apple for the business model they have developed. My issue isn't with apple, its with the people that blindly follow apple. I have friends that I call iwhores (which is truly a fun competitive running joke among us) that will buy anything apple even if its not the best product. As an example, apple tv vs roku.

posted on 12 Dec 2011, 21:37

63. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


antifanboy is Taco50,

dont feed the troll

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