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Former biometric executive says Apple iPhone 5S fingerprint scanner is real

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Former biometric executive says Apple iPhone 5S fingerprint scanner is real
If the name Sonny Dickson doesn't mean anything to you, be assured that it means plenty to Apple. Dickson has been the source of many of the colorful Apple iPhone 5C shells along with those for the Apple iPhone 5S. Dickson is just a teenager in Australia, and still lives with his parents. He explained to Reuters that he has 5 to 10 sources inside China that buy prototype parts from factory line workers at $250 to $500 a pop and then send him videos and the parts themselves.

The latest part to have its image leaked is the home button connected to the long-rumored fingerprint sensor. On Thursday, we showed you the picture of the part, which actually traces back to Dickson. The teen says that the part is legit. "I've been doing this for many years, so I know what looks fake and what's not," Dickson states. And you know what? The kid is apparently right.

"This is real. The silicon sensor is the teeny blob in the light colored disk. The black square connected to it is the co-processor that goes with the fingerprint sensor to process the fingerprint data pulled it, comparing it to the data stored that will identify you as the authorized user, thereby unlocking (or denying if it is not you). It also provides the access security separate from the main phone processor, reducing the ability for it to be hacked."-Phillip Smith, former CFO, UPEK

No less an expert than Phillip Smith, a biometrics expert and former CFO of  UPEK, says that the leaked part is the real stuff. His company brought fingerprint scanners to the PC. Competitor Authentec eventually bought UPEK and was eventually swallowed up by Apple. Smith was long gone by then, having left UPEK in 2006 according to his LinkedIn profile.

But it is becoming increasingly apparent that Apple expects to introduce the fingerprint scanner as this year's new, big feature on September 10th. Stay tuned.

Former biometrics executive says that this fingerprint scanner is real

Former biometrics executive says that this fingerprint scanner is real


source: Reuters via SlashGear

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posted on 07 Sep 2013, 13:41 2

1. TechDork (Posts: 242; Member since: 10 May 2010)


Cool beans!!

posted on 09 Sep 2013, 10:12

37. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)


So, now they gonna collect and archive , the fingerprins of the zombies? Cool
Next step- saliva sample.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 13:46 12

2. apple4never (Posts: 970; Member since: 08 May 2013)


How many times is someone gonna confirm the scanner I think is like the sixth time already

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 13:52

3. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1275; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


Can't wait for Tuesday to come and go.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 14:32 2

7. N.Reynolds (Posts: 257; Member since: 15 Feb 2011)


I agree. Been a phonearena user for years. This is the worst redundant story. This should no longer be news unless confirmed by Apple them selves.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 15:54 1

16. JewBakaUCFG (Posts: 173; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)


Worse than the constant news of the colors of the phones?

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 15:01

11. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6684; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


we already know that its real. all they want is more readers

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 18:01

21. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Or how just about every android smartphone today is just a clone of another smartphone.

If you hide the logo, these flagship android phones are practically looking the same.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 14:01 4

4. GrapeEyes (Posts: 248; Member since: 01 Sep 2013)


The biggest enemy to Apple fans is not Android but the Apple design team.

Its as though Android have double agents in Apple making bad decisions on purpose.

The sad thing about all this, is that the mountain they are about to fall off, is twice the size of Everest, and if the fans of Apple don't look away from the 4 inch screen, they have a long fall down to reality.

Invest in a parachute, you will need it.

.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 14:38 3

8. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 381; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)


I prefer 4 inches screen to 4.7-5.0 inches screen, and is one of the reasons why iPhone 5S will be my first iPhone (coming from Note II). I also adore the flat design of iOS 7, in my opinion, much better than anything Android has to offer design wise.. I am sure many people disagree but that's why there's competition. Not everyone wants the same thing.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 14:59 2

9. dragonscourgex (Posts: 307; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


You could use a custom launcher and download an Miui icon pack. Get the flat look that you like. The beauty of Android is you don't have to stay with what comes with the phone. You can change it to whatever you want. OEM UI and stock Android is just scratching the surface of what Android can offer. Jump on over to mycolorscreen.com and check out all the different UI people have come with using Android. Most of them blow anything Apple can ever dream of doing away.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 18:13 1

22. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Can I get a custom launcher to download the latest android OS? Basically, Android can give me anything except their latest OS.

Btw, I can't wait to try out iOS 7.0 on my iPad 2 (that originally came with iOS 4.x) and iPad Mini. I may not get stuff that "blows anything Apple can ever of dream of doing" ... but I AM GETTING the third OS upgrade for my iPad 2.

Here's a question for dragonscourgex: Do you prefer (i) huge customizability and being stuck in a dated OS or (ii) limited customizability and periodic updates to the OS?

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 18:59

25. N.Reynolds (Posts: 257; Member since: 15 Feb 2011)


If the latest OS is what you want then you get a Nexus? I'm sorry I'm not trying to start a flame I'm simply not seeing how latest OS is a benefit iOS has over Android because Android has an option for people that do want the newest OS on their tablet or smartphone and that's the Nexus 4,7 and 10. The phone (Nexus 4) can compete directly with the iPhone and Nexus 7 with the iPad Mini and the Nexus 10 with the full sized iPad.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 21:18 2

32. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 381; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)


What if I wanted updates quickly and more than 16GB of storage? I would get Google edition phones but they are only available in specific countries... Android doesn't offer as much as people like to think.

posted on 08 Sep 2013, 01:26

33. N.Reynolds (Posts: 257; Member since: 15 Feb 2011)


I have a 32 GB Nexus 7? As far as I know the Google editions are unlocked so as long as you are on GSM I don't see the issue.

posted on 08 Sep 2013, 21:23

34. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 381; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)


We were talking about Nexus smartphones -_- Please read the whole conversation before replying. Also, Google Edition phones can't be bought from my country as Google Play Store isn't available for devices.

posted on 08 Sep 2013, 23:57

35. dragonscourgex (Posts: 307; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


Woke up on the wrong side of the bed my friend? But to answer your question I choose huge customization with the backing of awesome devs so I can root and flash a ROM as I see fit. Had my old Samsung Captive running ICS even thou Samsung stopped at GB on it. Had my Razr running 4.2.2 even though moto stop at 4.1.2 on it. My current Razr Maxx HD is on 4.1.2.....until I get the urge and flash a 4.2 or 4.3 ROM. You always have the Nexus line if you want to be pushed the latest OS version from Google.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 21:15 2

30. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 381; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)


There is more to UI design than just the home screen.. I have tried many UI from different people on that website.. I have installed many custom ROMs and just about every launcher there is... None of them give me the look I want because none of them go into the depth I want without making it either extremely difficult for me or impossible. I like iOS just the way it is.. And no matter how much I tweak Android, I won't get the same feeling.

posted on 09 Sep 2013, 00:01

36. dragonscourgex (Posts: 307; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


Then I hope you find what you are looking for in iOS. Everyone isn't going like Android and everyone isn't going like iOS. To each his own.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 15:53 3

15. StreetNerd (Posts: 720; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)


iOS 7 is sooooooo ugly lol it looks like a candyshop

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 17:12 2

18. jaxson983 (Posts: 43; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)


also something like the droid mini would give you a 4.3 inch screen in the same package size as the current iphone. another beauty of android is that you are stuck with what someone tells you is best. 100's of options

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 18:21

23. ardent1 (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


The droid mini and droid m have small screens, e.g. when measured by total display area.

1. iPad's 9.7" display had about twice the display area of the first generation 7" tablet.
2. Apple's 7.9" screen on the iPad Mini has about 30% more display area than the Nexus' 7" display.
3. Pantech's Pocket's 4" screen probably has a larger display area than either the 4.3" on the Droid M or Mini

The problem with with screens is that they are measured diagonally, thus tells you nothing about the display area. The 4.3" number in the same package means it has a taller display, respectively.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 21:16 1

31. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 381; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)


There is nothing like that available internationally. There is NO popular high end Android phone that has a screen size of 4.3 or less... So much for 100s of options..

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 14:21 6

5. valapsp (Posts: 483; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 15:11 1

12. nctx77 (Posts: 556; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


You mad bro? Huh? You mad no android phone has the finger print scanner? You can go find an old Atrix off eBay if you like LOL! Apple has that new HOTTNESS!! The real scanner that actually works and does something. Samsung, take Note(pun intended) on how to do it LOL! Enjoy your pink Pleather.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 14:27

6. KillgoreTrout (Posts: 53; Member since: 04 Sep 2013)


If the scanner worked 95-100% of the time and they added an ir blaster and an nfc reader, then I would seriously think about buying one. If they don't have those three, then Note 3 it is.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 15:00

10. apple4never (Posts: 970; Member since: 08 May 2013)


yep, i want nfc, ir and wireless charging, then iphone 5c will b mine, i actually like ios 7 strangely enough lol

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 19:22

26. N.Reynolds (Posts: 257; Member since: 15 Feb 2011)


Bigger screen, IR blaster, NFC and if owning an iPhone didn't make me look like an iPhone user. Not note 3 screen size but something bigger than 4". Like 4.5-5 and I would own another iOS device. Oh and the same charger as everyone else. i.e. Micro USB. Still this will be a nice device for the iOS users.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 15:37 2

13. softfurryanus (banned) (Posts: 232; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)


I find it funny that people assume that one feature is enough to make a phone supreme. Using that logic I could say that the Lumia 1020 is the BEST phone because of the camera, end of story. I could also say the Xperia Z ultra is the BEST phablet because it has a large screen. I could also say that also say that android is the BEST OS because of say, widgets. Or on the other hand iOS is the BEST OS because it runs smoothly. If one feature is enough to make you buy something you are sadly mistaken.

Plus, everybody is overplaying the whole fingerprint scanner idea way too much, I like my phone secure and all but I'm not THAT worried.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 15:42

14. darkkjedii (Posts: 12390; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Just hurry up 9-10-13. It's iPhone time baby.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 16:10

17. Gatman (Posts: 18; Member since: 07 Sep 2013)


What's it even needed for ?

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 18:44

24. vincelongman (Posts: 1597; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


I think it would be a good replacement for passwords and pins, assuming it works correct 99.99% of the time

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 17:23 2

19. chemhaz (Posts: 160; Member since: 04 May 2012)


Cool, we can now measure that Apple is trailing 27 months on Motorola's Atrix 4G tech with a bio scanner. That's about the same with time it took them to increase a screen from 3.5 to 4 inches on the IP5 to catch up on the Galaxy S. That means NFC is 12 months away and an IR blaster around 24 months.....maybe. Apple what a joke.

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 17:27

20. goojman (Posts: 55; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


I know SOO many people are tryin to steal my phone these days.. Lol(sarcasm)

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 19:24 1

27. procopiojose (Posts: 132; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


yey! so ios can collect your fingerprint and store it in their database.. once a gets his hands on the data, he can actually plant your finger print in a crime scene..

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 19:25

28. procopiojose (Posts: 132; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


*once a hacker

posted on 07 Sep 2013, 20:24 1

29. lonewolf2873 (Posts: 40; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)


Let's not forget all the Google bashing about how they collect information.
You mean I'm forced to hand out my finger print, the only proof I am me, to anyone able to access my phone or apple servers. Maybe even cell company servers.
No thanks.
What do you do when your print doesn't work? It does happen when your finger is "dirty" or scratched up. I use biometric system at work to check materials out.

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