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First the Google Phone, now pics of early Android system

0. phoneArena 25 Apr 2012, 15:57 posted on

We are getting treated to quite an interesting look at the formation of Android today courtesy of Oracle. Earlier, Oracle showed off images of one of the original designs for a "Google Phone", then we heard about Google's desire for a $10 unlimited data plan...

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posted on 25 Apr 2012, 16:01 8

1. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Pretty cool screens!!!

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 16:02 7

2. gallitoking (Posts: 4680; Member since: 17 May 2011)


proves that Android was going for a blackberry device but thanks to the ...ejum.. iphone they turn the ship around..

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 16:13 4

6. good2great (Posts: 1039; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


reminds me of the samsung blackjack

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 16:28 12

7. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1207; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


I think you meant ahem instead of ejum. As far as copying the iPhone, I will grant that they transtitioned to a touchscreen phone, because that is what the competition had. It's no different than all of the portrait qwerty phones patterned after the BlackBerry, or all of the manufacturers jumping on the flatscreen Tv model. You guys act like if someone comes out with a product, no one else should come out with a competing product that is anything similar. Does it really make sense to have only one manufacturer cornering the market on any one device? Maybe someone else has a better idea to improve upon the original.

As far as software, even though Google had to transition to an OS that allowed for touchscreen, even back then you could look at each & tell that they were 2 different systems.

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 08:42 2

34. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


dont feed the troll

let him use google maps to find the nearest bridge ;)

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 16:29 9

8. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


If you read the article before this regarding the first design of Android device, you'll see that Google had a touchscreen device ready running Android and was hoping to get certified by mid-2007. That's a relatively short time to create a working prototype if thanks to iPhone considering that the iPhone was announce in January 2007.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 18:06 5

18. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


T H A N K ...Y O U!!

Add to that the LG Prada was out before the iPhone...and I would say Android is more modeled after the LG Prada.

....they even both had the same type of clock widget..........almost exactly the same.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 16:44 9

10. protozeloz (Posts: 5369; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


LOL fail Ive proven this wrong a billion times already

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 17:24 8

12. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


proto, you know facts dont matter to iNuts.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 17:25 4

13. ph00ny (Posts: 586; Member since: 26 May 2011)


or trolls

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 18:04 4

17. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


From the article mentioned by gwu:

"Google's Android plans of course didn't follow this plan at all really. At the time, Google had Android running on touchscreen devices with many parts of the finished OS in fully working order including the WebKit browser, dialer, home screen, messaging app, and contacts. The company had hoped Android would be certified by mid-2007, then released to manufacturers, but as we know, the first Android device to exist was the G1 in October of 2008."

Some more pieces to the puzzle from the article:

"The renders come from 2006, which is about a year after Google purchased Android, but a good 2 years before the first Android phone, the G1, was released into the market."

Put these two pieces together from the 2 quotes -

"The renders come from 2006, which is about a year after Google purchased Android"

and

"Google's Android plans of course didn't follow this plan at all really. At the time, Google had Android running on touchscreen devices with many parts of the finished OS in fully working order including the WebKit browser, dialer, home screen, messaging app, and contacts."

They had touch screens in mind from the beginning.....before the iPhone even came out. What was out before the iPhone...the LG Prada. Some more pieces...Abdroid is a Java based OS....the OS on the Prada was Flash based.

If anything....Android is a copy of the LG Prada. I think Google saw how poor an OS like Blackberry and Win Mo were on touch screen phones at the time. You need a stylus or trackpad for it to be a better experience.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 19:30 2

20. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6139; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


YOu talk too damn much bout on how bad Android is. Grow THE FCK up gailitoking.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 16:07 6

3. Beholder88 (Posts: 80; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


Looks like something that could have gone into a mix between a basic phone and a smartphone. Oh wait, that's almost what a Blackberry is...

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 16:09 13

4. theBankRobber (Posts: 645; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


Still looks like android, just our Android OS is more polished. Still looks better then any IOS version screen of icons.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 16:10 3

5. good2great (Posts: 1039; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


wow this explains alot and why this OS war exists lol..

early android did look similar to black berry possible WinMo

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 16:39 7

9. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1207; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


As I said above, I don't understand why that makes a difference. Is there only one manufacturer for toasters or for HDTVs? Look around, there are competing products EVERYWHERE that may look or function similar. Do you see Black & Decker suing Sunbeam, or any of the HDTV manufacturers suing each other? Name a product or an industry and there are similar products offered by the competition. If this happened with every product released where there were similarities, the consumer products industry would grind to a halt, and we'd be paying much more for those same products because we'd essentially be paying their lawyer fees. That sounds like the world I'd want to live in.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 16:57 2

11. good2great (Posts: 1039; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


my comments were towards the pointless arguments between iOS and Android users...

i dont care who's better or worse. whatever i feel like using for a period of time is what i buy with my money...

winmo then android now apple... thats my cell phone path...

i dont have loyalty to any...

just makes sense to me more why people come here and cry about android copying or apple not innovating.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 18:25 2

19. TheInfamousCJ (Posts: 20; Member since: 24 Nov 2011)


Its been a while since I read up on patten law; from what I do remember if there is a invention that is patented that inventor has the sole right to produce said good only for an x amount of time before any one else can enter the market or sell it. If another company produces something that infringes upon it can be sued. After that initial window expires other companies can purchase the right to use the same design under its original name or purchase licenses to base their designs off of. Apple still is within the time frame that prohibits copies. Now things like appliances and tv's its a combination of the inventors selling their ideas and past the original time frame of exclusivity. Prime example of patents that'll will always force litigation is Marvel and DC Comics, those companies retain and own the rights to the characters developed by their employees, they will never sell licenses to other comic makers they keep it in house as does apple. But if Stan lee and crew created those characters on their time and trademarked it then they would have retain the right to either start their own companies and do comics, sell it off, or sell licenses. I hope this helps and where I am wrong please make necessary corrections.

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 10:21 2

36. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


A great way to illustrate the point.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 17:26 7

14. Commentator (Posts: 2295; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


That calculator screen is pretty cool. I kind of wish they kept that.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 17:28 3

16. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Yes,the calculator one rules!!! I wonder if there is an app that does that.

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 12:48 1

38. amkang (Posts: 6; Member since: 03 Dec 2011)


I would love to have a calculator app that shows the history like that.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 17:28 4

15. shimmyx20 (Posts: 280; Member since: 03 Mar 2009)


Nice!Reminds me a lot of Windows Mobile 6.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 20:15 1

21. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


More undeniable proof android copied iOS big time.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 21:24 5

22. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Because iOS was certainly around for the taking before 2007.... Damn iOS trolls

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 22:08 1

24. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You don't get it do you. Android looked like a blackberry clone. Then Google saw iPhone's success and took all of Apple's innovation and stuck it on their phones

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 01:13 3

31. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


Apparently you didn't read the comments on the first page...

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 16:33 1

39. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Just like how Apple stole the PC operating system from Windows... The only difference is that Android improved on it, unlike Apple

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 21:30 5

23. protozeloz (Posts: 5369; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I'm ready to laugh at your signal... is that a joke right?

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 22:08 1

25. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


My signal?

Look man you like a clone phone and you have to deal with that.

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 22:39 2

26. protozeloz (Posts: 5369; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


its not my fault you have a sad life

out of all the times I've proven you wrong about this and you still at it? I mean you must be really trying to joke in there at least read the entire article you may actually learn somersetting. :)

or at least give me a reason to slap in your ignorance again

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 01:08 1

29. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You're sitting on an article that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that android played follow the leader. They took iPhones innovation and shamelessly copied.

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 05:05 3

32. protozeloz (Posts: 5369; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Here, there is a nice video from 2007 where the evil copycat shows off the infamous gizmodo device along with a touchscren onehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJHYqE0RDg&feature=player_embedded simply Google was and has been creating an OS that fits everywhere you will like to load it. Sounds familiar right? But you will come with a bunch of laughable excuses to try and covering your lack of compression for even the simple stuff

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 08:58 3

35. Sniggly (Posts: 6697; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


The images are from way before the iPhone's release. A lot happens in a year of smartphone development.

Tell me, what did the G1 have in common with the iPhone other than the touchscreen? This was a question you failed to answer on the other thread.

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 00:49 3

28. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I suggest you look at the LG Prada and try again. Take a REAL good look at pics of different parts of the OS

Here, I will help you get started:

http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones/lg-ke850-prada-unlocked/4505-6454_7-32316442.html

The first 3 seconds...looks like an Android launcher....lol.
See that clock widget....yea....Androidish.
Back button....Androidish.

While you are at it....look at the LG Prada and the iPhone....and open your mind. And that review date? May 2007, iPhone was shown in Jan 2007, releaed in June. LG had a woking phone ready for use before the iPhone even launched.

Or how about this video from Feb 2007...a month after the iPhone was announced:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aLOGUQouUI

Keep in mind you cant throw together a working phone...software and hardware in a month. I assume one cant anyway...

If anything....they both copied from the LG Prada....IF you wanna say someone copied. Get off the copying kick...I swear some of you folks post JUST to try to stir stuff up.

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 01:09 1

30. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You've lost your mind if you're going to compare the prada to iPhone. It had none of the features or interface the iPhone did.

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 20:05 1

40. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I see the phrase ...open your mind....didnt apply to you...Cant blame me for trying ...

Capcative touch screen phone, icons, and I see the Prada had colorful icons too.

If you consider Android a copy of the iPhone....you have to consider the iPhone stealing from the Prada since you think this way.

For the record...I dont consider the iPhone stealing from anybody....both the Prada and iPhone had to be developed around the same time. The Prada just released first. LG and Apple just had the same idea and went forward. Innovation...evolution....

I know no phone can be made in months.....but capacitive touch screen? The Prada was the first phone with it. Apple added multi touch capacitive touch screen....and all the accolades go to the iPhone.

Open your mind.....if you can.....

posted on 25 Apr 2012, 23:00 2

27. BattleBrat (Posts: 1038; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Yes, Android stole iOS, made it better, and is now slowly taking the market over with it, HA HA HA HA HA

No, android is like someone took windows and determined the best way to put it on a phone. Desktop>Desktop, Start Menu>Apps Drawer, Control Panel>Settings, My Computer> My Files (My RAZR has this, not all phones might) Themes>Launchers, Widgets>Widgets. You see Android is the most "Computer like" of the Mobile OS's. iOS is an apps launcher, that's it.

lemmie put it this way;
You have two computers in front of you, the first has all its programs on icons on the screen, you cannot hide them. You can place them into folders and rearrange the order, but you cannot move them into shapes or patterns on the screen, they auto align on the grid. You can change the background, but that's all there is to the OS, a bunch of icons on a screen. Thats iOS BORING!

The second computer has a couple commonly used icons on the screen, the rest are in the apps drawer, you can place shortcuts for them on the desktop, you can place widgets on the desktop for commonly sought information at a glance, or you can throw up a beautiful Live wallpaper, and keep the desktop empty. Or if you get really bored, you can install a different launcher and change the whole OS's appearance! THAT is Windows 7, no wait, Android! Trust me, Android is more like Windows than anything else. If Android never existed and Microsoft released a mobile OS identical to it, I would think to myself "Hey look, Windows shrunk down!"
That is why I like Android so much, it gives me such computer like functionality. I just got an Archos G9 101 tablet. It has ICS, and the 101 G9 has an A9 dual core processor at 1.5ghz, it runs smooth and stable, crazy battery life too, on par with an iPad 2. Not bad for a $330 tablet ($40 less than my 64gb 4th gen ITouch)

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 11:13 1

37. xtian1103 (Posts: 352; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)


yes android stole ios and made it better and ICS is on 99 percent of all android phones...... wait what did i just say?

posted on 26 Apr 2012, 06:25 1

33. mercorp (Posts: 967; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)


I hope this will not turn out to be how bbos10 looks like....

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