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First preliminary looks at 2012: Android grew, Windows Phone still outsold by Symbian and bada

0. phoneArena 21 Dec 2012, 06:22 posted on

We might have just missed the end of the world, but the end of 2012 is definitely nigh and this means it is time to take a look back…

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 06:35 6

1. pongkie (Posts: 503; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)


"but it comes from analyst and former Nokia executive Tomi Ahonen" - someone's bitter

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 10:41 1

17. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)


or perhaps the WP8 strategy of Nokia is ripe....

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 06:36 7

2. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3012; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


I won't be wrong to say Nokia has learned a l'le lesson.
And since they have taken WP as their primary OS, i hope they improve the ecosystem and continue building up.
And i do hope 2013 has less patent game-play. Tired of reading about it.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 07:07 13

6. wendygarett (unregistered)


I don't think Nokia will die as well as rim...
tired of those Nokia and rim bashing lol

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 07:36 3

9. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3012; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Yes Wendy, they won't die...for an OEM to die it would take something tragic.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 08:50 3

12. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3012; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Duh!! Who in the world are these people painting this page red.
Thumb us down we don't care, but atleast see if the comment is reasonable or not!! Sheeshhh!!

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 09:52

16. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Nokia WP and Rim will remain or I believe will be tumbling down more, while iOS and Android on top will dominate™®©

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 06:58 3

3. pokharkarsaga (Posts: 364; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


after the launch of blackberry 10 OS with 60000 apps,RIM will retains its 3rd position in next year and WP will move to 4th position outsolding Bada & Symbain in 2013.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 07:04 8

4. Cynipap999 (banned) (Posts: 138; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)


Well, what have we learned from this article?

Let's see:
1. Android #1 OS!
2. Samsung #1 Manufacturer!
3. Apple / iOS holding on to #2 manufacturer and OS, respectively, by default cuz' everything left is just abominable!!
4. Nokia made the wrong decision in partnering with Microsoft (like we all predicted it had), hence, Titanic sank for a second time: R.I.P. Nokia.
5. Microsoft Windows Mobile still mismanaged six years after the Windows Mobile 2005 disaster.
6. BlackBerry: oh well, not even worth typing characters in this post for it.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 10:51 2

18. Commentator (Posts: 2432; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


If you had just typed "6. R.I.P BlackBerry" you would have typed far fewer characters than you did.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 11:27

21. Cynipap999 (banned) (Posts: 138; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)


lol... +1

But I did that for Nokia, kinda' was redundant to even say it for BlackBurried.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 07:07 6

5. Aeires (unregistered)


Passed up by Bada and a killed off Symbian, wow.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 08:21 2

11. snowgator (Posts: 3225; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Come on now. Haven't you been here longer then 2 months? WP7 never sold well. It was trending upwards, but had never been higher then 2%-3% depending on which analyst was providing numbers. Bada and Symbian have ALWAYS outsold them. This is not news. Throw in WP 7 device not selling a lock over the summer due to WP 8 anticipation and that no device was getting upgraded. The only real question is what WP8 sales look like in December.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 09:11 1

13. Aeires (unregistered)


First year of Metro: wait till the Nokia phones come out! Translation: first released phones weren't that great.

This year: ........ no excuses, both Nokia and HTC have some great WP phones.

Of course I've been following this since the beginning. Since the new WP format, they've thrown good phones at it, polished marketing, sales, and just about everything else and it's still stagnant. So yeah, wow.

Biggest saving grace for WP is if W8 takes off. First reports indicate that isn't happening, people just aren't into the new tile format like MS thinks they would/should be.

And before all the W8 lovers spam this with thumbs down, for the record I would love to see Nokia come back with a vengeance. I have a ton of respect for Nokia, they build great phones. Not sure if WP was the best decision for them to make though.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 07:20 1

7. Thephonegeek (Posts: 118; Member since: 22 Nov 2012)


Yeah, stop kidding. Huawei No.3 manufacturer! Bada is still larger than wp! Dude you forgot sony and htc and wp.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 07:24

8. apexKBC (Posts: 92; Member since: 10 Dec 2012)


Nokia should return to its paper manufacturing unit,,,,,,
microsoft y not SONY for ur expansion.............!!!!!!!

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 08:15 1

10. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3012; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


If i'm not wrong, Sony has to make the first move, not Microsoft!

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 09:21

14. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Oh I love these numbers.
Apple is not even in the race with Android anymore.
WP?
Microsoft and Nokia in late 2010:
" we will disrupt the ecosystem establishment within two years"

LOL

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 04:07

26. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


Is that why android is losing market share in the US. Read the latest report from Kantar; It really doesn't look good for google or the fanboys like yourself.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 09:33

15. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Actually it's pity I didn't bookmarked my predictions for 2012 in the comments, a year ago.
I was pretty damn close to this in every regard, but fell short on android and went too high on WP.
I gave 60% market share to former and 3.5% percent to latter

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 10:51 4

19. Commentator (Posts: 2432; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


So did everyone else except the most rabid of fanboys.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 11:16 1

20. Johnnokia (Posts: 523; Member since: 27 May 2012)


Just remember this name '' Victor H.''
All his articles are against Nokia and Windows.
Phonearena must reconsider his work ... I got sick from his reviews

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 12:38

22. DeadPiXeL (Posts: 1; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


Windows Phone 8 was just released a short time ago, and the data for these predictions certainly doesn't take into account the strength of a unified Microsoft OS platform.

Also, even though Android marketshare is quite significant for smartphone devices, the OS still lacks in security (and is badly fragmented), and will never be accepted by the business world...

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 13:10

23. Loubielou (Posts: 224; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Nokia is just getting downgraded to its lowest Value then Microsoft steps in an Overtakes or Saves Nokia,people have seen Mr Elops plan since he stepped in at Nokia,he had to help is old Employess out as they are Miles behind Apple in Popularity

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 20:45

24. jameshoe (unregistered)


believe only in WP, it'll get the 3rd of Smartphone OS

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 04:03

25. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


According to Kantar, there is a growing trend away from Android. The platform even lost 20% of its US market share over the last 12 months, which is a very worrying sign for google.

Of course this isn't the sort of news you'll see on phone arena.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 08:43 1

27. Aeires (unregistered)


Because it's not true, they haven't lost 20% share. They might have slipped a few %, but not 20%.

posted on 22 Dec 2012, 14:03 1

28. snowgator (Posts: 3225; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Sorry Edmund, but I would need some links to believe that. If Android has lost ANY percentage in sales, it may be due to new smart phone buyers selecting iPhones or maybe some other OS. The actually number of Android devices is higher then ever according to every sales chart I have seen.

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