First look at Apple iPhone OS 4
0. phoneArena 08 Apr 2010, 12:56 posted on
Today Apple let us take our first look at the new iPhone OS 4 that will be launched this summer. The list of new features is long and includes Multitasking, Folders, Game Center, iAds and more...
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2. cj100570 (Posts: 204; Member since: 12 May 2009)
Victory? Sounds more like "About Time iTards" to me.
3. whocares (Posts: 235; Member since: 19 Dec 2009)
why do you insult people by preference of phone? get a life man.
19. AaronWasHere (Posts: 36; Member since: 10 Mar 2010)
In all fairness but not sounding like a prick about it, he is pretty accurate with the statement. Apple is falling behind on what is probably considered a basic feature on most advanced phones anymore.
45. whocares (Posts: 235; Member since: 19 Dec 2009)
i wasnt disagreeing with that. its just funny that people insult people by phone choice. this was needed by apple cuz yes they are falling a little bit.
66. Papapau (unregistered)
No. He is not insulting you because of your dumb phone choice. Its on the obsession of iTards, like you, that your showing.. You make the negative of iPhone positive, even no-sd cards.. ha.
what if iPhone supports it and other competitors doesn't? Let me guess..
4. testman22 (Posts: 337; Member since: 03 Nov 2009)
I'd like to be the first to say what a complete and utter disappointment that conference was today. If this isn't the bucket of cold water that wakes apple fanboys out of their delusional trance, then I'm sorry for you. Once again, apple has created an update to their OS that just placed on the bare minimum of features that were required for them to stay in the game. Nothing new, nothing revolutionary. Are we really supposed to be impressed that the iphone can now multitask? or that you can change your background? And apple continues to prove just how greedy and money hungry they are. The main event of todays conference was not how they can do better by the consumer, but how they can better themselves and the developers via I-Ad. Now your phone will be the biggest medium for adverstisements to be shoved down your throat. I'll stop here.... but in all honesty, this is pathetic. i'm sticking with android
6. easytochris (Posts: 126; Member since: 21 Jan 2010)
i love that you get all butt hurt about ads being in apps and then you say you are sticking with android. how many free apps from the android marketplace have you downloaded that have admob ads in them.
7. phoneguy (Posts: 190; Member since: 08 Jan 2009)
ummmm shouldnt that be disappointment?? not this appointment?? Two completley different things..........
8. testman22 (Posts: 337; Member since: 03 Nov 2009)
If you read my post you'll see that my issue isn't over the fact that the apps will have ads- that is a given. The problem is they spent a majority of todays announcement talking about ads. I expected the 4.0 OS to be a game changer when it comes to how people interact with their phones. It seems that the only breakthrough they were going for is how people interact with ads. For all the people that are disliking my post please step up and tell me something that was announced today that was extraordinary. Multitasking? Wallpapers? ibooks? Folders? There is nothing new here.
13. easytochris (Posts: 126; Member since: 21 Jan 2010)
that's the thing that apple does though. They dont create brand new things, they take things that already exist and create a niche that everybody clings to. android has in app advertising, apple is going to make it not suck. android has multitasking, apple is going to make the phone not bog down. multitasking has always been looked at as a double-edged sword because yes it lets you do a couple things at once, but it kills battery and phone performance. This is why it's a big deal that apple has it now, because they have (allegedly) found a way that it wont have the negative impacts.
15. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
I'm going to have to agree with easytochris seeing that a lot of free apps on iphone and android having ads on them anyway. As long as these iAds don't pop up when I'm playing a game or reading news or something, the that's fine. It actually seems like these ads could be better than the others ads since you could play free games and stuff. And now you see why more developers are attracted to the App Store. This will boost the amount of apps in the store. But I kind of see what you mean testman22. There was nothing really extraordinary about the conference. I was a little bit more excited than I should have been when I found out that I could change backgrounds (kind of sad). But what did you expect? Magic? I haven't seen anything extraordinary from Android either. The last thing I was amazed by was the WebOS, and it doesn't look like its doing too well right now either. And I just came from the Android website and read what 2.0 brought to the Android users. They just updated the messaging, browser, calendar, email, and contacts/accounts. How's that game changing? I was probably going to switch to Android or WebOS if they didn't bring in multitasking. I was not ready to wait all the way until OS 5.0 just for that feature. But now that they did, why should I switch?
16. theGodpapa (Posts: 181; Member since: 15 Dec 2009)
I am in total agreement with you here testman, and I dont always agree with the things you state, but this....like all the other apple announcements as of late, was nothing short of sterile and boring. There is nothing here revolutionary or extraordinary....no game changing features that make other handsets look futile and pale in comparison. As a matter of fact, it is now unable to shake the title of copy cat and is definetly trying to play catch up. Sad, Apple rocked the game a few years back, made cell phones really shake their heads in disbelief and wonder how in the world they were going to catch up with this monster but now the I phone is reeling....it is got more than a handful of serious competitors knocking down the door and putting it under the gun. Others who are stating against this and rating it down are just apple zombies. They will never be capable of seeing for themselves, they are followers and it is sad.
18. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Well if multitasking on iPhone is as good as they make it seem, then I'm pretty sure that there will be more copy cats.
24. Legacystar (Posts: 131; Member since: 31 Dec 2009)
it's not true multitasking the the true sense of the term. it's pause resume guy, except for audio. the batter is not really effected because it's not truely running anything in the backround, the apps are waiting. android and web OS do true multitasking and i know my droid gets 20hours of battery life doing all that. apple didn't change the multitasking game in any way, they just found a way to make there pause/play method seem superior. it's all in how you present something
31. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Well then isn't that better? What's the point of "truely running an application in the background" (that's not being used at the moment) when you can pause and resume and still be able to do the same exact functions? Maybe your droid could have gotten 40 hours of battery life in your droid.
33. Legacystar (Posts: 131; Member since: 31 Dec 2009)
try loading a webpage and while it's laoding open something else up while you are waiting. pretty useful.
39. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
You're absolutely right. That would be useful. It's a good thing the iPhone can do that now. According to engadget, applications that are not being used will be in a sleep state, but services like "task completion so you can finish things like uploads in the background" will work.
41. Legacystar (Posts: 131; Member since: 31 Dec 2009)
you don't know if that will includes the browser, which i doubt it will
49. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Well you've expressed your doubts before and were wrong, so don't be surprised when/if you're wrong again. But it would be pretty weird if Apple allows 3rd party applications to do task completion and not their own native application. But you're right again, I don't know what exactly it will and won't do. But neither do you. Regardless of that, you and many others are doing a lot of criticizing for something all of us stilll don't know much about.
53. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the difference between android and iphone is that Android allows the developers to add functions to the phone, where on iphone you have to wait for steve jobs approval. Take all this enterprise news. You add some minor enterprise functionality to the iphone.. big news right? took 4 years. On android, phones with MotoBlur have very extended enterprise functionality on the level of a blackberry. That took less than 2 years cince the inception of android.
61. horse21 (Posts: 2; Member since: 15 Apr 2010)
The point is, that since the iPhone can load pages in the background now, it is multitasking. This consumes resources and affects battery life. Sure, it's just one thing so it doesn't affect much at this point. However, you can bet that many apps will have multitasking in the future. Then these issues will rear their ugly heads. And there is a difference between consuming CPU cycles, and consuming RAM. Apps paused will still use RAM so they can be loaded again. If not, it will not be fast. Considering that the 3GS and iPad only have 256 MB RAM, that's going to be an issue, particularly for the iPad.
5. easytochris (Posts: 126; Member since: 21 Jan 2010)
I'm a little intrigued to see how advertisers will be using iAd. The demonstration shows a lot of potential for ads to be nonintrusive, but i wonder how much advertisers will actually spend time to ensure that it is worthwhile, or on the other side of the coin what apple's approval process will do to make sure of that (which jobs said would be minimal since they are paying for ad space)
9. zerglisk (Posts: 544; Member since: 09 Feb 2010)
I think Apple will somehow claim they can support flash with their html5. We will just need to wait and see.
62. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)
Agreed with clevername.....(blow)Jobs has made it clear he's done with Flash.....as in DONE, NEVER again. Which I think is unfortunate...
10. Iphoneluv (Posts: 59; Member since: 13 Nov 2009)
Ok. I have been an apple fan (Fanboy, lol) from the beginning. I had the original Iphone and now a 3GS. I was looking forward to today's event with high hopes that apple would thrive with some well needed and desired changes and upgrades for os 4.0. I am vastly disappointed and disgustes that the most major update is mulitasking......... WTF. There are so many things apple could have implemented in this new software version but yet I and i'm sure many other apple fans feel dejected. If this is truly all apple has to offer and in Jume/July a slightly bigger screen and a 5mp camera, with the same ol design, this will be the end for me. I will try out the android platform and join an up and coming rising star. I have my eyes on the Htc evo on sprint. Not to sure about sprint but they have an excellent everything plan and their service cant be worst than At&t. That thing is a sexy monster. A phone to truly set the bar. Time will tell.
12. testman22 (Posts: 337; Member since: 03 Nov 2009)
i completely agree, but everyone seems to be bashing my post for some reason. It seems obvious to me that this update was a huge let down
20. lacrymosa (Posts: 6; Member since: 25 Mar 2010)
thats because these fanboys dont want to admit the update they were waiting for only brings what the phone should have had in the beginning and it doesnt bring anything new
34. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Although I agree the evo4G is a beast I don't agree it will set a bar. It will run android like so many 3G ohkne and it's not even a new version. 4G will set standards not the devices that use it. Also testman I agree there aren't many revoltuio ary features. Iad is a huge thing for devs not necessarily consumers. Everything else is catch up pretty much although the idea of multitasking without sacrifice is huge. Now there is one thing I do have to disagree with u on one thing. Apple bringing an xbox live service to mobile devices. While the concept itself is, not new, and developers of certain games have things like the plus+ and feignt networks. Nothing this comprehensive will be on cell phones until windows phone 7. It's a pretty interesting feature if you're a gamer. But if you've never owned an iPhone and played it's best games, and there are hundreds of truly great games, then you just couldn't understand the impact games have. They're online with pals and ds games. Far above mobile phone games. I also have a nexus one which I am using less and less, android just isn't doing it for me, but i recognize it is a wonderful OS and reccomend it to anyone who doesn't want AT&T. But even on my nexus 1 with it's snapdragon and better stats there isn't a game that can touch it. There is one thing though where multitasking on iPhone will b better than android. Multitaking is great when there is no limit to how many apps you can have on your phone. Bit yeah no kne will have over 200 apps. Lol as far as revolutionary goes, I was hoping for something truly mindblowing but to be honest there is t anything mindblowing on any other OS out there either. And a previous poster was correct, there hasn't been a revolutionary update for android ever. So testman, while I agree with you post for the most part, I think you have missed the mark on relevance. But no this is no insult, so dont think I'm just another fanboy sticking up mindlessly for apple. I happen to like it best. That's all.
11. lxmndza (Posts: 23; Member since: 09 Oct 2009)
IN A UNIVERSE THAT DOESN'T! IPHONE TRULY DOES!!! BOOYA ANDROID... RIP
26. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)
Yea, rest in peace my ass. Congratulations your phone can NOW do things i've been doing for years. GO YOU! F*ckin toolshack... -1
27. Legacystar (Posts: 131; Member since: 31 Dec 2009)
RIP because they just ripped off everything android had over them but didn't do it as well as android? im confused on your comment here
43. DonkeyPunched (Posts: 321; Member since: 10 Jan 2010)
So, obviously this guy doesn't seem to understand why we are all disappointed with 4.0, but, we need to compare also to android based off what we have now. We can't go, like ihatecrapple, saying "it's something android has had already" because if Apple hadn't come out with an iPhone, android would be sh*t. So, based off what's going to be out by June/July, who's OS will be better by then? Even though these aren't huge updates, they will level with android and I'm sure comparing them together then, more people will choose to use iPhone over android. I would go into detail, but I'd just be repeating what you already have compared.
58. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)
I don't own an Android phone...I'm a BlackBerry user through and through. Just wanted to clear the air...
14. JASON666 (Posts: 20; Member since: 31 Oct 2009)
is there a NEW device? faster ram? i dont mind the design as it now, but isnt the display kinda SMALL, 3.somethin in now aday is TINY? isnt the camera kinda OUTDATED? if none of those are there, it makes these NEW OS implements BLEhhh.....
17. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
I think you're going to have to wait until later to find that out. Good questions, but a little too soon.
29. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)
crApple will save those upgrades for iPhone 3gs II or iPhone4g...or whatever stupid name they pick then
59. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)
Why's that? I'd bet a paycheck thats what will happen.
21. Iphoneluv (Posts: 59; Member since: 13 Nov 2009)
A serious question. Since I have been brainwashed by apple for the last several years. Between the htc hd2 and the htc evo or between windows mobile and android, which os is better. More fluid, more options and user friendly? Ive been under a big apple for a few years.
22. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Between those two, I'd say the EVO. But why would you ask that here? Wrong place. We understand that you're disappointed, but asking a random question like this is just like a scream for attention.
30. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)
WP7 looks awesome! Android is tried and true by now and has a ton more apps than winmo...
35. clevername (Posts: 1435; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
android out. It's good. Not my cup of tea but good. You won't find much that iPhone doesn't do and nothin iPhone doesn't do if you're a jailbreaker. But it will be fresh. If however you are big on downloading apps or games, you will see a huge difference and may want apple back. Amd far as windows, don't bother with winmo. Windows mobile is archaic. U less your a hacker a d change Roms it's not too great. But windows phone 7 looks to be pretty good. We'll have to see.
36. easytochris (Posts: 126; Member since: 21 Jan 2010)
i've been using android for a year and love it, but i am definitely going to be upgrading to a wp7 device when they come out.
28. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I like everything excpet for the folders. I understand its functionality and usability - but the one thing which always sperated the iPhone from all the other phones was that everything was accessible with a single touch... but I guess it would be useful to store apps which you rarely use in some neatly packed folder..
38. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
I like the folders. Now I can keep as many games as I want in a separate folder and not have to have 5 pages of games and non-games mixed together.
44. DonkeyPunched (Posts: 321; Member since: 10 Jan 2010)
I think why they decided to put folders is because of the many apps you can choose from. I think some people limit themselves to Apple's Apps because there seems to be so many and the more pages you have, the more inconvenient it is to pile up with apps and switch pages and the less likely you are to purchase/download more. I've had this problem and it makes it more difficult to keep more apps. I tended to sort through them and delete the ones I didn't use the most, but only because I wanted to save more room.
50. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Well, thats why you can easily manage the icons on the iPhone in the first place. Heck, you can even manage them at home from youe iTunes! You could have 1 page for work apps, 2 pages for internet apps, 2 pages of games, etc etc. But I guess allowing you to choose to put apps in folders as well as allowing you not to beats any other approach. The multitasking solution sounds very nice, although I cannot believe that this won't consume more power\performance. I have a nokia 5800, thus I know how horrible multitasking is. Honestly, its not very useful there at all, because apps get stuck in the back ground, and there is no way to turn all of them off at once. I seriously hope that there will be a quick shortcut to kill everything in the background, or at least disable multitasking when you dont need it.
32. sleepyjohnny (Posts: 151; Member since: 16 Dec 2009)
so im glad to see actual neck and neck competition between iPhone and Android OS cell phones. sounds like once this is released, Android companies like HTC or Motorola won't be too far from creating a phone implementing similar factors that are planned to be used on the new iPhone. I'm sad to see that there still are no widgets (unless i skipped that part).
40. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
me too. That's actually the only thing I asked for that they didn't add in. There's always 4.1...lol
37. ajmoore88 (Posts: 25; Member since: 13 Apr 2008)
Maybe HTC should sue Apple for infinging on multitasking patents. Oh thats right they never invented it! Just like Apple never invented pinch to zoom!
42. tiolawa (Posts: 115; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Honestly it doesn't sound like they really introduced anything innovative... i mean they just added things that people were complaining it didn't have and stole things from Windows.. and Android.. and Symbian.
47. whocares (Posts: 235; Member since: 19 Dec 2009)
part of business. you think those three didnt take from eachother or apple?
52. E.N. (Posts: 2577; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Let's not get into a who stole what. I can create a long list of ideas stolen from Apple.
60. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)
I can create a longer list Apple has stolen from others...Lets DUEL!
48. iPadsupportfast (Posts: 1; Member since: 08 Apr 2010)
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