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First benchmarks of the Juggernaut Alpha Windows Phone 8 handset show a 50% performance boost

0. phoneArena 23 Jul 2012, 08:52 posted on

Juggernaut Alpha scored 151 points, leaving the Titan II with its 1.4GHz processor in the dust. Now, granted this is a dual-core handset most likely, as Windows Phone 8 brings support for multicore chipsets, but the benchmark comes to show that there will really be an improvement in performance over the current generation of Windows Phone Mango handsets...

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posted on 23 Jul 2012, 08:56 10

1. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)


hmmm... show me more!

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 09:06 16

2. pokharkarsaga (Posts: 356; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


performance wise windows phone 8 > android, because they know how to optimize hardware at its 100 percent better than android.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 09:11 11

4. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


That's because WP has a very high minimum frequency hence the high battery usage. WP sucks when it comes to optimization and relies on higher frequency and constant CPU usage.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 09:38 11

7. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


what are you talking about?

"WP sucks when it comes to optimization and relies on higher frequency and constant CPU usage."

you're kidding right? WP RELIES ON HIGHER FREQUENCY(clockspeed)? WP refreshes its OS to be optimized with higher frequency not because it relies on that.. It's because it's what people wants. Look at WP7 devices. Look at lumia 610.. THOSE devices don't rely on higher clockspeed. They work smoothly even in low specs. That's how smooth WP is. Remember this, WP8 was the answer for the people craving for higher end devices in WP ecosystem. They don't really rely on higher frequency.

and the thing you said about constant CPU usage? EVERY PHONE USES ITS CPU ALL THE TIME. SERIOUSLY. YOUR PHONE WON'T RUN WITHOUT A CONSTANT CPU USAGE.

done here.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 09:51 4

8. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 258; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


I'm still stuck on the lumia 800 (wp 7.5) that had a worse performance browser-wise than the nexus s (2010), did I miss something?

Sunspider test, lower is better

Nexus S (2010) - 6054
Lumia 800 (2012) - 6752

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 12:37 3

14. ph00ny (Posts: 591; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Aren't those numbers a little high?

I could have sworn that Nexus S scores better than 6k with updated webkit browsers included in each iteration of Android OS

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 13:43 1

17. haseebzahid (Posts: 1813; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


seems u have no idea what u said WP can be optimized without extra app it has builtin feature to utilize batteries more then android

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 09:28 8

5. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


No, the only thing Windows beats Android on is keeping their phones undated. Google needed to have better control over that aspect of their ecosystem. Jelly Bean > WP8

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 10:28 5

11. POOTIS (Posts: 3; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


ULTRA GAAAAAAAAAY

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 14:19

20. bbblader (Posts: 575; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


you must be new to memes my friend

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 09:29 1

6. ph00ny (Posts: 591; Member since: 26 May 2011)


we shall see about WP8

WP7 was smooth in the same way iPhone was smooth.

Limiting the key factor that Android thrives at. Hardware choices and multitasking

This is also the same reason why WinMo suffered from much criticism it received because it was very similar to how android works right now(i actually liked winmo)

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 13:47

18. haseebzahid (Posts: 1813; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


well android has only one thing you can brag on home screem customization and after a while no one bother the screen customization

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 17:07

28. ph00ny (Posts: 591; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Multitasking?

What about custom apps that can really boost specific device performance (artificial amps like Voodoo Louder/Sound)?

Ability to create a true backup of the device?

Android has quite a few things to brag about and i don't really consider home screen as one of them but since you listed it in your post, i will add it in there as well.

posted on 25 Jul 2012, 08:01

42. haseebzahid (Posts: 1813; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


thats the point bragg :P is what fandroids do they dontget a life and stop bashing other OS

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 17:33 3

30. MISTER_H (banned) (Posts: 97; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


why wouldnt it be...
Windows is half-baked OS
unlike Android a full Linux OS

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:21

32. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Not sure what you mean "half baked."

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:56 1

34. MISTER_H (banned) (Posts: 97; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


its not a full os. apps dont run at background. thats
why its so smooth.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:58

36. ph00ny (Posts: 591; Member since: 26 May 2011)


As for optimization,

Considering the fact that dual core listed above is the S4 variant, and the single core has always been the S3/2 variant, performance gap should be bigger.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 09:07 4

3. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


This looks pretty nice. Can't wait to play with the official release of WP8 on a PureView Lumia!

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 10:04 5

9. thunderising (Posts: 225; Member since: 25 Nov 2011)


Dual Core v/s Single Core.

This was expected.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 10:09 2

10. snowgator (Posts: 3199; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Can hardly wait to see WP in action.......

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 11:03 4

12. jtech (Posts: 101; Member since: 14 Jul 2011)


Android users not comfortable with what they have so they troll WP news and thumbs down what people say who don't use android...Welcome to PhoneArena

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 13:07 3

15. Whateverman (Posts: 3189; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Some of you WP fans are getting just as bad as ios fanboys. There are a lot of true tech fans here who want to see them all succeed. Look at post numbers 2 and 3, then talk about Android users trolling. I'm sure you'll agree the thumbing down was more about the negative comments on Android where it wasn't needed.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 20:38 1

37. Penny (Posts: 1129; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


I'm not so sure anyone would agree with that Whateverman. You would have to be ignoring an awful lot of neutral comments that are getting thumbed down on pretty much every WP article to make that statement.

That's not to say there aren't some irrational/obnoxious WP fans as well. Can't really avoid it. But still, not nearly as bad in my opinion.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 21:11

39. MISTER_H (banned) (Posts: 97; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


True....

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 21:17

40. Whateverman (Posts: 3189; Member since: 17 May 2009)


There are always perfectly rational comments getting thumbed down, but the new trend around here lately has been to point at the Android users. Why can't it simply be a case of that person, no matter what their preferred OS may be, simply thinks WP isn't up to par yet. But people are so quick to thumb you down based on your phone, they don't take time to listen to what you are saying. I just want to see more debating. Tell us why you think this OS or that OS is great, and less crying about other OS users commenting on your OS articles. Aren't we all techies here? Don't we all love all tech? And if so, we should be able to give a real opinion and even give a thumbs down if we don't agree without someone trying to make everyone chose sides.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 12:34 1

13. sbr999 (Posts: 79; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)


I'm very anxious. Looking forward to a WP8 phone that makes me swap my G Note

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 13:24 5

16. mas11 (Posts: 1028; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


Good luck WP8, we need a strong 3rd OS.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 21:09

38. MISTER_H (banned) (Posts: 97; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


No we don't... Restricted outdated low specs.
Symbian user's are migrating to Android, cause
of closed eco-system....

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 13:49 8

19. haseebzahid (Posts: 1813; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


Android Fandroids just dont like any OS coming near their OS like they own everything. three words for all of thoes kind of guys "Get a Life"

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 14:22 6

21. bbblader (Posts: 575; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


but alot of android fans see that even meego can have a chance with making it a better os than it is now
so no

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 14:57

22. Shino (Posts: 187; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


WP will be very soon the best OS. Or maybe second best to iOS. Good job, MS!

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 15:11 1

23. wsucoug13 (Posts: 164; Member since: 04 May 2012)


Talking strictly OS, android is clearly the most advanced..

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:27

33. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Not sure what advancements it has?

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 18:57 2

35. MISTER_H (banned) (Posts: 97; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


LINUX...
GOOGLE IT!!!!!!!!!!"""

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 16:03 1

24. GoBears (Posts: 336; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


Shino, In what category? Most boring?

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 16:20

26. Roomaku (Posts: 278; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)


No that goes to iOS, Im not even against iOS but it is very boring and stagnant compared to widgets and live tiles on Android/Wp7. I guess you could say Blackberry is boring but even they are changing there design iOS is left functional but virtually unchanged from other iterations.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 16:16

25. Roomaku (Posts: 278; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)


WP8 is destined to beat out blackberry, only thing they don't have is real qwerty, but WP7 keyboard is already pretty great....

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 16:34

27. xtroid2k (Posts: 344; Member since: 11 Jan 2010)


Hey I love my windows phone. The ecosystem is growing slowly maturely. Hopefully fast enough to be sustainable. However why do I sense so much hostility from the android camp. Just sit down with a WP device with an open mind and that doesn't mean spending 3 min at your local store. Remember Wp is solid yet like android and IOS it has its flaws. While WP is missing some big features now WP offers a far smoother experience as far as day to day usage performance.

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 17:09

29. wsucoug13 (Posts: 164; Member since: 04 May 2012)


No hostility towards WP at all. I'm actually rooting for them because i have a windows PC. Compatibility makes life easy :)

posted on 23 Jul 2012, 17:39

31. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1057; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


7Hello folks i hope things are going good for you all. I am not shocked the Windows "8" smart phones will work better than windows 7.5 or 7.8 smart phone One of the main reasons Why windows 7 series smart phones were not popular was because they used Lower Technology components than what the Iphone and android smart phones used.. I used to get angry when i saw internet Phones reviewers put a higher Tech Iphone or a high tech Android phone up against a Windows 7 series smart Phone because the Windows 7 series smart phone were using lower technology. to tell the truth the lower tech Windows 7 series smart sometimes worked pretty well up against the Higher tech androids or the Iphones a testimony of how good the software was written and how well the Windows 7 smart phones were made. thank God Windows "8" smart phone. do not have to have to use Low technology components to run them and will serve their users well.

posted on 24 Jul 2012, 04:30 2

41. nadar.bsm (Posts: 32; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


you WP guys still dont understand the meaning of a mobilephone....

Mobilephone means that the users can use according to their needs... every OS provides the core facility at the highest.... so it all comes to user xperience....

I am from India.. & hardly anyone uses WP in here... even though most people know what it is.. they dont want UGLY UI on their hands... we want customization of our phones... like wallpaper... & no restrictions... like bluetooth file transfer, etc...

hence.. I say as of now Android stand on top of every thing that most of the users wants on the mobilephones...

I dont think WP will make any effect on Andriod or iPhone sales....

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