First Video and Live images of the LG Dare for Verizon

43. (unregistered) posted on 06 Jun 2008, 23:11 0 0

full HTML browser but NO Mobile TV....and it is a smartphone....it can sync to outlook, so thats how it gets that classification ...I love it no phone out there is like this. NONE.

50. Esquire0399 posted on 06 Jun 2008, 23:59 0 0

Actually no, the Dare is NOT a smartphone and the ability to sync with outlook is NOT the what determines whether or not a phone is a smartphone.

54. (unregistered) posted on 07 Jun 2008, 08:00 0 0

sorry esqueer thats exactly what DOES determine how a phone is classified....since thats what I do for a living, I think I would be the better voice on this...so why dont you stuff some cotton in your mouth and learn.

56. Esquire0399 posted on 07 Jun 2008, 10:05 0 0

No need for the insults. Clearly you are childish and not worth my time. It takes a lot more than the ability to sync with outlook to be classified as a smartphone, not to mention the fact that there is no single, definitive definition of the term. And how would you know what I do for a living?

58. R3GUL8OR (unregistered) posted on 07 Jun 2008, 13:12 0 0

LOL ok first of all. you're an idiot. Second, esquire is correct. That is NOT what makes a smartphone a smartphone. The Dare is NOT a smartphone nor will the ability to sync with Outlook make it so.

60. Esquire0399 posted on 07 Jun 2008, 13:43 0 0

Thanks R3GUL8OR.

65. The Man (unregistered) posted on 07 Jun 2008, 16:18 0 0

you guys are all dumb as shit....this is why NO ONE comes here to read what you guys post....a smartphone is determined by the tasks it can perform ABOVE a regular handset....the Dare will be able to open and read emails and attachments, has the abilty to sync to your comp to upload and update calendar, task manager and appointments....and it is working off the fastest speeds possible.....so again MORONS explain how this does not classifyas a smartphone but a Q is??? pwned. this is why no one comes here and posts besides you 2 jackasses.

67. Jester (unregistered) posted on 07 Jun 2008, 16:45 0 0

LOL OK this is funny and needs clarification. A smartphone is a mobile phone offering advanced capabilities beyond a typical mobile phone, often with PC-like functionality. There is no industry standard definition of a smartphone. For some, a smartphone is a phone that runs complete operating system software providing a standardized interface and platform for application developers. For others, a smartphone is simply a phone with advanced features. Most devices considered smartphones today use an identifiable operating system (Palm, Symbian, Windows, Linux, Android, RIM) often with the ability to add applications (e.g. for enhanced data processing, connectivity or entertainment) - in contrast to regular phones which only support sandboxed applications (like Java games and soft java/brew applications). These smartphone applications may be developed by the manufacturer of the device, by the network operator or by any other third-party software developer. In terms of features, most smartphones support full featured email capabilities with the functionality of a complete personal organizer. Other functionality might include an additional interface such as a miniature QWERTY keyboard, a touch screen or a D-pad, a built-in camera, contact management, an accelerometer, built-in navigation hardware and software, the ability to read business documents in a variety of formats such as PDF and Microsoft Office (which the Dare does not), media software for playing music, browsing photos and viewing video clips, internet browsers or even just secure access to company mail, such as is provided by a BlackBerry. The main difference between a smartphone and a dumbphone has been the ability to open up email attachments of any type and provide full PC connection capability for syncing. Just cuz it can sync with microsoft outlook for basic connectivity and download does not mean it can fully utilize Outlook like a true smartphone can. So I agree with Esquire and R3GUL8OR to a point. Like I said, since there is no standard definition, really, almost any phone can be a "smartphone". However, the wireless world would look at the Dare as a "dumbphone" since it lacks the ability to offer advanced features. In short, once ytou play with the Dare, it is no different in its functions than the LG Voyager, LG Shine, LG Glimmer or even the LG enV. And these are NOT smartphones. And having been a beta tester for LG, LG uses Windows for their smartphone devices (although I have heard they have a Symbian phone. Never seen it though). Having played with the Dare at a confrence, the Dare does not provide full Outlook connectivity, does not allow pdf or office attachments or any other attachment for that matter to be opened and is running a similar UI to the voyager with a few improvements. So "The Man", I'm sorry, you're wrong. Im not going to call you an idiot or a moron like you have decided to address these guys, but you're wrong. You didnt provide any useful information and you tried to compare the Moto Q (a windows based smartphone) to the LG Dare (the updated version to LG's 2 year old GSM Prada). No one likes posting here becuase half of this crap comes straight from HoFo while the other half is pure speculation and BS to get people excited. And the fastest speeds possible is capable becuase its using EVDO Rev A, not Rev 0.

68. Esquire0399 posted on 07 Jun 2008, 16:50 0 0

Well said. This a very well thought out post and I think we can all appreciate what you have said. Thanks for the clarification.

85. (unregistered) posted on 08 Jun 2008, 14:38 0 0

Well Just to put this to rest and asked a verion rep. It is not a smart phone. so thee you go problem Sloved!!!

89. (unregistered) posted on 08 Jun 2008, 18:12 0 0

Thank you #71. The dare is a SICK phone, but lacking the ability to host 3rd party apps makes it far from a smart phone. It's a very smart phone, but its not a smartphone.

103. mthoren68 (unregistered) posted on 11 Jun 2008, 01:23 0 0

Asking a Verizon rep to opine on the qualifications of a smartphone is like asking some putz at Best Buy to explain the ins and outs of plasma versus LCD. All they're going to do is regurgitate a bunch of crap from a spec sheet and push the "hot" phone. I have Verizon and love it because of the reception, but the sales reps are just glorified shoe salesmen. "I work at a Verizon store so don't question me!" Shmutz.

105. (unregistered) posted on 11 Jun 2008, 01:36 0 0

WTF no verizon dose not have the best phones they have like good phones the reson im quiting verizon is because of the lack of phones

74. (unregistered) posted on 07 Jun 2008, 19:38 0 0

This is for VZW not ATT

52. (unregistered) posted on 07 Jun 2008, 04:00 0 0

How do you know so much if the phone didn't come out yet?