Finally, Microsoft and Google to work together on an official YouTube Windows Phone app
0. phoneArena 25 May 2013, 01:25 posted on
Well it looks like Microsoft was able to make a move that finally got Google’s attention. Now in the...
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1. clevername (Posts: 1379; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Still haven't updated, don't know if I'll update then either. I like no adds and download functionality. Oh, and being able to watch all videos. Not to mention how pretty my app looks. Sorry google, but Ms gave me what I wanted and more. And you're not taking it away.
16. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
That is what everyone wish for but Google wont allow it.
17. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Microsoft begging Google
Microsoft begging instagram
Microsoft begging Devs
I wonder who are they gonna beg next....?
Google gave Microsoft Half-Baked You-Tube with "Adds"! For it's WP8 users to half enjoy: Well much better than "Metro-Tube"
18. james004 (Posts: 349; Member since: 15 May 2013)
da fuk did you just spit here?
microsoft made that app themselves with zero help from google. and they didnt beg anyone google reached them. google never made app for windows 8 because they dont want their competition to have additional benefit .
google isnt evil thats just how business works. so keep your stupid pointless opinion to yourself.
19. james004 (Posts: 349; Member since: 15 May 2013)
as for begging. game-check mate, every small to big software corporation has a dev-conference.
every company "BEGS" developers.
TROLLING BACK ®
2. xperiaDROID (Posts: 3742; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Good news! Good news!
Oh and by the way, why is the potato crying?
3. haseebzahid (Posts: 1722; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
i was also wondering why the "forever alone potato"
4. xperiaDROID (Posts: 3742; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Poor potato........ lol
7. decent4u (Posts: 52; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Mr Potato is not crying those are tears of joy lol ;)
14. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
Microsoft made a Youtube app that violate's Google's rules, Google asked Msoft to take it down. Msoft used Larry Page's words against Google (of preferring not to get involved in petty wars). Google finally agrees to cooperate with that potato face. Well played.
5. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Microsoft finally realize that they can't do Googles job?
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11. nlbates66 (Posts: 133; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)
this comment doesn't even fit with whats happening in the real world... 0.o
Microsoft made an app that worked and google didn't like that, so Microsoft Made google work with them to build one.
32. Sniggly (Posts: 6204; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I love how Microsoft fanboys repaint history. Microsoft made an app that ***clearly violated Youtube's TOS, violations which potentially hurt Youtube partners,*** and google didn't like that, so Microsoft ***laid the blame on Google, despite the fact that Google has proven it's willing to provide perfectly functional Youtube apps for platforms other than its own, so rather than fight Microsoft in another bulls**t legal battle, Google decided to show Microsoft how to actually make a fu.cking app that's compliant with their TOS.***
50. freebee269 (Posts: 435; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
"Google, despite the fact that Google has proven it's willing to provide perfectly functional Youtube apps for platforms other than its own"
you dont read the news much do you? it's pretty much common knowledge now that google wasnt giving microsoft the access to the API's that are needed to add ads in their app. this is why they had no ads in their app. this is why microsoft called out google saying if you give us the API's to add ads then we will. this was used to hold back microsofts app to be less functional than ios's app. so much for "willing to provide functional youtube apps for platforms other than its own". and this was on top of google's larry page saying "we should be making things instead of having petty wars". they were not practicing what they preach. microsoft found a way for them to eat their words. and it worked.
12. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)
Nope. Microsoft finally FORCED Google to cooperate.
30. papss (Posts: 2182; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Actually if you have ever seen the app they created it is better than the one google has out.. Not even close to the garbage that googles folks coded.. Shows who has the real talent.. But you wouldn't see that because your such a blind fanboy
48. lyndon420 (Posts: 1359; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
YouTube is so huge its expected to be on all platforms.
6. 1day_only_NOKIA_will_be_avlbl (unregistered)
Way to go MS... Thats how you pin down brat kids...!!! MS whipped Google with their own CEOs lash...!!!
9. wendygarett (unregistered)
Lol yup, finally indeed, where others enjoys their YouTube like so 5 years ago...
38. -box- (Posts: 3470; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Android wasn't even around 5 years ago, and ios was just getting started.
51. freebee269 (Posts: 435; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
in june 2007 youtube mobile launched on android.
57. Heritor (Posts: 30; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)
Wrong.. Android launched with its first device.. The HTC Dream under the name G1 on October 22, 2008.
So yeah 5 years ago Android wasn't even around.
59. freebee269 (Posts: 435; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
in june 2007 youtube mobile was launched, i shouldnt have added on android at the end.
13. Topcat488 (Posts: 788; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Why should "Scroogle" make anything for MicroSour"... SMH.
It goes without saying that the recent updates that Microsoft made to its own app for YouTube were probably intended to get this result all along.
27. haseebzahid (Posts: 1722; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
Scroogle should be available on android store
15. speckledapple (Posts: 873; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
I wonder why it happened like this anyway. It would have been beneficial for Google to release a YouTube app for every system so that more people would be able to enjoy their service. The fact that Microsoft even had to resort to what they did is a little beyond me. Google should have done it right.
33. Sniggly (Posts: 6204; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
If you look at the way Microsoft treats Google publicly, you have your answer. It's not hard to figure out. Microsoft knows that in mobile OSes, Android is the one to beat. Therefore, they have launched a years long smear campaign against Google and Android with the logic of "If we simply make our competitor look terrible enough, people will buy our s**t even though it's not really better!"
Then, while Microsoft acts like a gigantic, throbbing peen toward Google, they expect Google to provide them with everything they need. I think it was perfectly reasonable of Google to give Microsoft the finger for a while.
39. -box- (Posts: 3470; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Wasn't that the idea behind the original "droid does" campaign?
41. protozeloz (Posts: 5189; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Actually no and I'll give you an example
Droid does campaign was:
You know you can multitask with us?
You know we have great apps?
You know we have free navigation?
You know Google reads your email? (They also do it)
You know Google displays ads in your search results?
You know Google does
The difference was mainly of highlighted features the droid had (hence droid does) compared with ads that show no feature but direct attack over certain practices... MS has little focus on its features because compared there is not much to switch
31. papss (Posts: 2182; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Hopefully they nail them this time
34. Sniggly (Posts: 6204; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Nope. Hopefully they *don't.*
If the US government is going to let Apple trample all over tax code without taking action, they should let Google slide on whatever petty bulls**t they're trying to "nail" them on.
35. papss (Posts: 2182; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Bud antitrust issues aren't petty, not sure why you wouldn't care. I also agree regarding Apple and have a real issue over the Xbox one with the always on kinect that I don't want watching me.. They should nail all of them
36. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2346; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
im sorry but all your just the other side of the same coin as those fanatical apple fanboys who believe apple should be allowed to do what they like
you praise google and defend them no matter what. you have the cheek to point at ms fanboys yet your the only one been one sided and sucking up to a company
google arent allowed to get away with everything, they spout out that there here for the customers yet it took ms making there own app to finally make google offer a service they didnt create (they bought youtube) for the wp user base
face facts if this was apple and they had bought youtube and werent offering there services to google and android you would be shouting all week on every article
37. papss (Posts: 2182; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Agree 100%.. Wrong is wrong no matter who it is.
58. Heritor (Posts: 30; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)
All corporations, Google INCLUDED are doing what Apple is doing. Goggle uses Bermuda and Ireland as two of their many tax havens.
Congrats though on thinking that ONLY APPLE practices that... How that excuses a monopoly i have no idea... Perversity of American people.. Its like saying "Hey that guy is running an extortion racket! Oh wait some dude was found not guilty for commiting fraud.. I like the guy doing the extortion racket so lets let him off to becase the guy i hate was let go!!!".
40. protozeloz (Posts: 5189; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I doing get this people and their happy times with antitrust...
For starters not only Google but Microsoft was involved into antitrust for its dominant OS position, it occurs with everyone on the market that's on a dominant position (reason why apple hast not got too many antitrust issues in the past despite their closed system)
Also we all km now where this comes from, a and its a bunch of Google haters gathered in a lobby trying to find ways to say "oh look Google is worse than us" instead of improving their services they just trow mud at Google while pretending to play fair
43. papss (Posts: 2182; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Oh, so it's fine then since it happened to others..smh you google fanboys are dense sometimes.
44. protozeloz (Posts: 5189; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Its not that I'm a Google fanboy my position on many of these antitrust is MEH most are here to cripple a certain companys effort to improve the user experience and many are common practices
61. Heritor (Posts: 30; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)
So you are willing to allow Monopolies based on the idea it may improve existing services? Companies are nice people looking to give you soft serve ice cream.
They are after one thing.. Money. They will bend laws, break laws, and bribe politicians in order to gain security at making as much capital as they can. Google was willing to violate US law and help the chinese government with censorship.
To believe they have your best interest and shouldn't be closely watched and viewed with scorn is absurd. These companies are weilding more power then what they should be. Technically google and Microsoft should both be broke up into multiple different companies like At&t (which law makers have let remake itself...).
63. protozeloz (Posts: 5189; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
You know companies also use the law to hindrance others? Just like how soccker players would fake injuries just to get free shots, the problem is when things are a legit or just an attempt to slow competition, its why my position is a Meh, for example let's look at apple ecosystem, no user outside apple has for example garage band, or imessage despite being quite popular, also no app store can complete with the app store in their phone OS and no service can replace the default services found in many apple based devices, yet there are little to no antitrust regulations for them because they don't meet a certain number on the market, same could be said about many services from other companies that do the same. so a laws that only works when you meet a certainly high number, has become a tool others use to abuse how's that fair? If antitrust would be something for the benefit of everyone it should apply for every company regardless of their market share instead of mainly those companies with big market, why? Because companies with smaller markets abusing this are obtaining more profit that many of those with the big shares.
52. freebee269 (Posts: 435; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
i was going to respect your opinion til you linked the verge as your source.
62. protozeloz (Posts: 5189; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
What's wrong with them? You can call most sources biased at some point, but the article has its correct information....
66. Whateverman (Posts: 3066; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Read the article Pro... That just went over a lot of people's head. Good find dude!
67. protozeloz (Posts: 5189; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
They have nice articles, and are quite direct about it, also its not that Google is a saint with a nice mentality but its competition its simply trying to make them look way worse that what they actually are (and many people are buying it). This YouTube issue for example was not about the lack of an api but some other things
If MS thought YouTube was so important, why not license it and pay Google a fee for YouTube like iOS did for a few years?, I mean android manufacturers are playing MS for things they need or tools that are compatible with their services so why MS needs to have it for free? And that's a starter.
54. taikucing (Posts: 609; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)
Google uses an algorithm to display the ads, it finds some words in your email that match some ads. It's a computer job. They don't read the emails one by one. If you think Google's employees read the emails one by one, it's impossible and a very exhausting job. There are millions mails in millions accounts. You think Google read them one by one? Think about it.
42. shreyasmhatre (Posts: 6; Member since: 26 Apr 2013)
How about both of them come together to make Google Hangouts for Windows 8!
47. boosook (Posts: 615; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
microsoft=mafia, they're using the same methods: make a youtube app or we'll make our own that will cut out the ads. I hope this time google will ask microsoft a lot of money.
53. freebee269 (Posts: 435; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
i got a question for you. if youtube doesnt give you the API's to include their ads in your app, how do you add their ads to your app?
64. protozeloz (Posts: 5189; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Oh crap I forgot to send them the email, can you please send someone at MS this link?
49. aco96 (Posts: 150; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)
I hope it won't be as useless as the Android one.
56. roscuthiii (Posts: 1602; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Wait, so the WP YouTube app will be made with Google's API, will follow Google's terms of service, and WP users will be served ads as well now? The app that MS users are saying is better now, will soon be replaced... and somehow this is painted as a Microsoft victory???
Okay, MS can claim the victory, but Google got exactly what they wanted all along here.
60. freebee269 (Posts: 435; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
i think the microsoft victory here is not that microsoft didnt want to have adds in their youtube app, but they just wanted a functional youtube app period. and google wasnt making it as easy to create that. now with both of them colaborating, windows phone will have a youtube experience the same as android and ios. that's the microsoft victory.
72. roscuthiii (Posts: 1602; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
Except that's not really how Google does business. As adamant as Apple has been about it's fight with Android, you can still find Google apps on iOS, and in a few cases they've even made the iOS app better than the Android app.
This all came down to the ads and who had control of them.