Final Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 now fully previewed, price revealed
0. phoneArena 06 Aug 2012, 06:11 posted on
Samsung has just unveiled its reworked, now quad-core Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet with built-in S Pen stylus, is coming this month, and…
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1. matrix_neo (Posts: 326; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
I will consider buying if it has super amoled screen even not in plus. 1280x800 is good only for smartphone. Only the screen display really a downturn for me.:(
4. MeoCao (unregistered)
I want Google to make a 10" Nexus tablet. a $300 one designed in the same vein as N7.
12. pokharkarsaga (Posts: 365; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
On desktop,we prefer 1280x1024 resolution for 17 inch monitor,then why not here for 10 inch (1280x800)? this tablet is worth the price.it is a great option for WIndows surface RT.
16. kanagadeepan (Posts: 754; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
Because we sit far from that 17" monitor than a 10" Tab...
2. MeoCao (unregistered)
This tablet is clearly not designed to be iPad beater, this is the tablet for business and learning so the screen resolution of 1280x800 is respectable. I guess everything will depends on the price.
I agree with most people here that $750 is too expensive and it's wrong b-c people will not accept a high end tablet with such a low screen resolution.
6. khmer (Posts: 93; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
Samsung is still working on 11.1 Tab with 2560x1600 on the same chassis.
7. darkvadervip (Posts: 358; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)
I'm waiting on a intel based windows 8 tablet
19. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
A lot of people are. Cant wait to get rid of my piece of crap iPad to get something that does real multitasking.
Microsoft please hurry it up.
P.S. Please make an XBOX Live appstore and include Halo, for total domination.
9. wendygarett (unregistered)
7000mah seems a bit little for a 10inch tablets...
14. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1260; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Compared to what? That's the battery size of most of the premium tablets of the market: ASUS infinity or prime both have that battery.
And if you take into account that the Exynos SoC is less power hungry thatn the Tegra as it's built in 32nm and not 40nm, the battery should give more than enough juice. Probaby over 10 hours.
18. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Even though you are right about battery life, the manufacturing process is not the reason for the equally efficient processor capabilities because a few different things -- transistor leakage being the most pre-dominant reason. Newer mobile phone CPUs do not yield much of a difference when going from 32nm from 40nm as long as the components are good quality, and work well with each other, which is why Tegra devices don't have a bad rep for having bad battery lives, despite the 40nm architecture. There are also several reasons why Exynos devices tend to have over-average battery lives -- Sammy will often use low-power technologies like LED (AMOLED) displays, and will optimize their hardware and software well enough for maximum battery life potential.
Either way, you can't go wrong with Exynos.
20. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
You have a point but still, the smaller the manufacturing process the less current you need traveling across circuitry.
Transistor leakage is a huge factor but dont minimize the importance of the smaller maufacturing process.
I think 7000mah is just fine as long as it runs efficient. The ipad 3 has a ridiculously huge battery but only cuz its NOT efficient, Hence the heat issues.
22. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
I'm not saying that smaller manufacturing processes do not yield any battery life improvements whatsoever, and maybe I was a bit to general in my last comment (I think something like last year, Apple started issuing a new iPad 2 that used the same A5 chip but on a smaller process, which led to a 19% increase in battery life), but that is a rare case.
But people tend to label one CPU, and more commonly device as a whole, superior to others in terms of power efficiency just because one is built off a smaller process. In today's mobile computing world, that is simply not true. Tegra is just as efficient as Exynos in terms of power(I have no sources, I am merely playing off my observations of the devices harboring the aforementioned CPUs, albiet very keen observations) Snapdragon S4 is based on a 28nm process, Exynos on a 32nm, and Tegra on a 40nm, yet nobody has really cited any major battery life advantages from any of these 3 chips, despite the varying changes in manufacturing process. There are always things to consider, like Tegra's 4+1, CPU clock and so on.
Of course M-process matters, but the advantages will stop piling up at a certain point, one that we are soon reaching or have reached already. But this is only ARM CPUs lol, Desktop CPUs are radically different in this perspective.
As far as the iPad 3, I wouldn't say that it's not efficient(Apple optimizes their stuff to the teeth) I'd say it's because of
1) the screen res
2) the 4-core GPU
3) physical confinements of the chassis
23. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
I have actually been able to compare these 3 (Snapdragon, Exynos, and Tegra) and the most eficient by far is the Exynos.
This is why, eventhough Motorola went with Tegra on the Atrix, Photon, Bionic etc, they did switch to Exynos for the RAZR line and the eficiency was astounding. The RAZR Maxx was overkill and is why the RAZR HD has 1/3 less battery as its no longer needed.
I think Nvidia has something up their sleeves, and in the end will dominate this market. Qualcom has for YEARS dominated this industry but lets face it, they dont have the capital for R&D that Intel, Nvidia or even TI bring to the table.
As far as your final statement regarding iPad, you are right about your 3 points. But heat has ALWAYS been undeniable evidence in inefficiency. I returned my iPad 3 and went back to my iPad2 because I could not justify the weight and heat for a rediculous amount of pixels that were unrewarding.
To get back on subject, this 7000mah battery should provide plenty of power when combined with the smaller manufacturing process and efficiency of the Exynos procesor. Making it comfortably light and cool.
24. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
I can see what you are saying about the 3 CPUs but those are the older gens, which means there were made with less proficient materials, which means transistor leakage is no longer a problem if you were moving to smaller manufacturing processes.
This is what I said in my first comment: "Newer mobile phone CPUs do not yield much of a difference when going from 32nm from 40nm as long as the components are good quality, and work well with each other, which is why Tegra devices don't have a bad rep for having bad battery lives"
-- As long as components are good quality are the keywords --
The older gen mobile CPUs were made with less stable, resourceful materials, which would translate to almost no transistor leakage if they were to move to a smaller manufacturing process, whilst using the same materials (which I don't think is possible)
As far as the iPad, you are right there. +1
25. jinwons (Posts: 95; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
Razr line uses TI OMAP4 not Exynos processors.
And where do you get Qualcomm doesn't have R&D budget that Nvidia, TI have? They actually have more budget than Nvidia, TI combined.
10. sonisoe (Posts: 371; Member since: 06 May 2009)
i've had hands-ons with a number of sammy tabs (so many of 'em i cant remember which one but certainly that 10.1, 7.7, and 7plus inch), performance is just below par, home-screens & app trays lagged or stuttered... in the world of tab, iPad still rules...hopefully this one is as smooth as my sgs3...
13. imkyle (Posts: 1039; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
Looks like a really good tablet but needs a higher resolution screen.
17. ObjectivismFTW (Posts: 211; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Still looking for that 11.8 inch 2560x1600 tablet. Sammy has been slacking in the tablet market lately, so it will be nice to see Galaxy Tab solidiify itself as a serious mainstream competitor once again.
21. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)
Im disapointed with the resolution :(
Cmon Sammy?! You mean to tell you couldnt squeeze 1600x900 into that tablet? I dont think its much to ask. Were not asking for a retina display just an upgrade is all.