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Federal Judge rules against Apple as HTC's patents will stand

0. phoneArena 08 Sep 2012, 13:51 posted on

Apple asked a Federal Judge to rule that patents being used by HTC in a patent suit against the Cupertino tech giant were invalid because HTC purchased them from a third party to use agressively; the judge ruled in favor of Taiwan based HTC...

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posted on 08 Sep 2012, 14:48 11

22. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


If Apple gets hit with an import ban, their stock price will take a hit. The longer the ban stays in place, the further the stock drops. It is all about turning toys into cash. An import ban stops that process while the cash burn from operations continues.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 18:06

88. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Are stock prices modified over the weekends? Thought only trades during business days

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 18:35 2

99. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


There is the 'after-hours' market:http://www.nasdaq.com/quotes/after-hours.aspx

posted on 09 Sep 2012, 00:41

145. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Thanks for the link. I was previously aware of AAT but didn't know the scope of its influence.
How much impact does AAT have? Would we be more likely to see a drop come Monday morning?

posted on 09 Sep 2012, 01:19 1

147. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


It depends. If the ban were to be announced after closing (5 pm Pacific time) on a Friday and Apple's iPhone shipments were piling up at Customs over the weekend, there would be a fall in the after-hours market. Trading in Apple shares would quite likely open lower than the Friday close due to the after-hours activity being closed out. If the iPhones continued to pile up at Customs, the price would probably continue to drop through the day. Depending on what was said regarding Apple's response to the ban, the price might drop far enough to trigger circuit breakers (trading is suspended).

As I said at the start of my response - it depends.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 14:45 7

20. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Hahaha! It seems that someone's gonna be screwed and stuck at 3g connectivity this time, and I wonder who's that gonna be. Like eveyone else say, pay back's a b**ch!

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 14:49 8

23. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


So much win in this article I've lost track..... Between HTC's and Sammy's patents, Apple is looking down both barrels quite literally!

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 14:51 14

24. Droiddoes (unregistered)


LMFAO!!!!!!! Here's my favorite part: "Apple asked the court to rule that the patents are invalid because HTC purchased them just to aggressively use them in court."

f*cking irony, how does it work? Hypocrisy too for that matter!

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 20:37

126. joey_sfb (Posts: 6002; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I think Apple is caught in its own Reality Distortion Field if they think the court is going to buy that. "Of course, HTC buy it to sue your ass just like you did and still going at it!"

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 14:54 6

26. dreeemer (Posts: 28; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


Samsung &HTC should gang up, sure the sh-- outta Apple!
They would be forced 2 pull LTE & relaunch under a new name
Apple 4S Extreme Super Edition Extra XL

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 15:24 2

39. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Sue*

5characters.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 14:56 8

27. Droiddoes (unregistered)


Where are all of the ifans to defend them and spew their nonsense? Could it be that they have no defense for this and decided just to do themselves a favor and stay away? LMAO.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 15:06 6

32. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Cowered by their own beloved Apple's hypocrisy and bad karma.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 18:37 3

100. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Some are on vacation from PA.

posted on 09 Sep 2012, 00:38

144. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Good point. Taco's been gone for a while, maybe he is back to kindergarten or banned, and some of the garble-names have been absent as well.

I don't particularly mind THEIR absence, as the more rational apple supported seem to have stuck around, which means we can have rational, thought-provoking adult conversations/debates.

How very refreshing.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 15:00 6

28. zackh121556 (Posts: 101; Member since: 01 Feb 2012)


If you always look to sue the hornets nest. you will get stung in multiple directions.....lets not forget Samsung already stated it would sue for the same thing :-)

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 15:12 6

33. Droiddoes (unregistered)


Yup! Apple is in for an epic gangbang from the combined might os Samsung, HTC, and Google!

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 15:18 5

35. thephoneguy92 (Posts: 191; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


"Apple asked the court to rule that the patents are invalid because HTC purchased them just to aggressively use them in court."

Ummm...

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 15:31 3

40. darkkjedii (Posts: 22038; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


What amazes me as I read the various comments, is that u guys think that apple is going to crash and burn. U guys actually think the iPhone is gonna get banned here in the US... get real man! Apple is a rock solid company, stacked with cash, and rooted in americas financial fabric. Apples not going away anytime soon guys. Also this is not a pro apple comment, cuz I sincerely hope Samsung and htc's products don't get banned either but all these silly hopes that r encoded n your comments r jus that (silly hopes) apples crashing or an iPhone 5 ban would severely weaken the economy, and here in the states that's jus not gonna happen. It's almost comical to read the stuff u guys post about apple, and really want or think its gonna happen. What's gonna happen is apple is about to become the first trillion dollar company in US, and possibly world history. Apples products line love it or hate it is super strong, and isn't about to crash n burn in any way shape or form. The powers that b know how important brand name products r the the Economy due to brand loyalty. Brand loyalty is the number 1 driving force in our economy. Pepsi, Chevy, dodge, Samsung, Quaker, coke, cowboys, steelers, Yankees, lakers, redsox, and apple have it in droves. It's literally what makes the world economy go round, and u guys talk like its so easy to drive apple away... Why would u even want apple to go away? If apple went away google and android would suffer, and vice versa. Sorry guys but the silly comments and the lol's that accompany them is fantasy talk, apple is here to stay and getting stronger losing iPhone/iOS market share isn't an issue when u dominate in other areas. Apple doesn't go after market share, with them it's profit margin. Google is more about market share cuz of ads, and search plus free licensing of their software. They want in as many hands as possible. Apple not so much, they have a sales model, and it works quite well. They will get fined, and have to pony up and pay licensing fees to Htc, but banned I think not, and so does our national economy.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 15:50 7

46. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I dont care what happens...as long as Apple's hypocrisy is shown....and they get a taste of their own medicine.

If one is an Apple, iPhone fan.....you cant deny this is truly hypocritical that they went out and bought a bunch of LTE patents to help in case Samsung sues em for LTE.....and then this.

I wish this judge could preside over every patent case....

But...at the same time....this might help them in case Samsung does sue em. You cant have it all Apple.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 15:54 3

47. darkkjedii (Posts: 22038; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


It's so hypocritical it isn't even funny man. I hate some of the stuff apple does it really sucks. However this is strictly about banning them in the US, which won't ever happen. They do need to b blasted tho and force their a$$e$ back to the lab to innovate like they were when they came up with the OG iPhone.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 16:13 3

51. JessJess (unregistered)


Please. Don't use the "i" word.

Where is your proof that Apple do not "innovate"? Is it based upon the rumour/leaks of the next iPhone looking like..... an iPhone? Is that it? Really?

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 16:31 3

55. darkkjedii (Posts: 22038; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Dude I'm an apple guy first and for most and I love tech period. I'm pro apple, android, moto, windows all that. I also understand y iPhones have signature styling jus like porsche does. I jus want the suing to stop on all sides, and I'd like to see apple blow the doors off with something radical that's all.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 16:41 2

56. JessJess (unregistered)


That's fine.

I just hate it when people start throwing around the "innovation" argument.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 16:56 2

60. darkkjedii (Posts: 22038; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


My whole point in saying see apple innovate more is so they can shut people up, and show em what they're capable of.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 17:24 1

69. JessJess (unregistered)


Shut up who? Android users? You know they wont be satisfied or impressed no matter /what/ Apple do so its a non-issue.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 17:29 5

72. darkkjedii (Posts: 22038; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


That's true but some droiders r true techies, and respect apple. Some r jus idiots with big mouths, and active imaginations. Hence their stupid posts.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 17:49 5

84. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


Several Apple fans are idiots with big mouths too bro. Call it both ways b/c it does go both ways.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 19:09 2

107. darkkjedii (Posts: 22038; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Hey dude u r exactly rite. Some r worse than the stupid droiders... We'll call them stupid applers lol. Seriously though u r rite there's stupidity on both sides. I love both platforms though, big time love for ios's simplicity and androids techie feel and customizations. No wonder they're # 1 and 2.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 17:36 3

78. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Don't lump us all together like that Jess, it's rude. I'm actually looking forward to the new iPhone event, because I'm interested in what Apple will show off for us. Though I've seen the hardware isn't too inspiring, I hope they will show something amazing with the software.

Unlike a lot of people, I look at my other options across all platforms before buying my devices. WP, Android, and iOS alike. I looked at the iPhone 4S and Lumia 900 before buying my GS2 (though I hate Touchwiz and will replace it with something soon). And I'll look into the Lumia 920, Ativ S, new iPhone, and the next Nexus (done with overlays and lack of updates) before making a decision later this year.

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