Exynos-based Samsung Galaxy S4 benchmarks surface, head and shoulders above Snapdragon competition
0. phoneArena 10 Apr 2013, 07:12 posted on
By now you probably already know that the Samsung Galaxy S4 comes in two versions - one for the United States and most of the Western world equipped with a Snapdragon 600...
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1. twens (Posts: 978; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
And there you have it...Samsung does it again
7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Looks like the Note III will be a must-buy in the U.S. (only way to get the Exynos octacore love).
8. tech2 (Posts: 3455; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
It does........but honestly I am more interested in the battery life tests rather than benchmarks with the new Exynos processor
47. chistoefurpuffer (Posts: 140; Member since: 11 Mar 2013)
Well with it's other smaller core, you should experience fine battery life.
16. SleepingOz (unregistered)
Well, no surprise here. It's an Exynos after all. =D
68. blingblingthing (Posts: 529; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
You went full retard, man............. Never go full retard.
34. akki20892 (Posts: 3901; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Great, but don't get that high that phone will burn.......!!!
74. _PHug_ (Posts: 444; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)
You do know that the Galaxy S3 that supposedly burned was just an insurance scam right?
77. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
His Lumia 920 is as useful before and after burning... Hence he complaind
83. akki20892 (Posts: 3901; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
i have N8 men.....lol u got wrong answer....!!!
2. tiara6918 (Posts: 2036; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
That shv-e300s galaxy s4 would be a treat from Samsung to their fellow koreans. But why can't Sammy just make that available in some markets as well?
6. henrickrw (Posts: 408; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Samsung always does something special for Korea. Always!
Look at their S2 variant, the SHV-120L (I have it) which use a Qualcomm Snapdragon Processor that is not too good, but this phone have a better screen resolution (higher ppi's) and bigger screen than the S2 (I9100)
Samsung always does something special for Korea
15. tiara6918 (Posts: 2036; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
They also make different versions like galaxy s hoppin(the only galaxy smartphone that I've known so far that uses metal and not cheap plastic)s2 lte,s2 hd lte and galaxy s3(3g and 4g versions). If Samsung wants to make better sales,they shouldn't make those phones exclusive to Korea but also to the consumers around the world
61. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Tiara how is metal better? Take a metal soda can and a plastic soda bottle and see which is easier to break.
Cons of metal: scratching, dents, cold to touch, interferes with WiFi signal, makes it harder to use a removable battery, it weighs more and it will make the device run hotter (metal
59. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Yup the Galaxy s3 in Korea had an exynos 4 quad core + 2gbs of ram the international only had 1gb of ram.
9. linneti15 (Posts: 49; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
suppy issues.. they can't produce enough exynos octa cpu's unfortunately
17. SleepingOz (unregistered)
not yet at least..
23. kamejoko (Posts: 203; Member since: 10 Nov 2011)
Qualcomm S600 only = 20$. Exynos 5410 = 30$.
63. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Don't forget the exynos 5410 isn't an all in one chip, tbh the cost of the qualcomm (CPU ONLY) is probably around $10.
Which the s4 (international) isn't an all in one and has a superior radio, dac (wolfson top of the line) and it also gets better cpu performance, gpu performance and better battery life.
44. procol (Posts: 16; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)
Samsung has to compete with LG and Pantech in specs in its home country. Unlike in overseas, LG and Pantech have somewhat stronger sales supported by effective marketing. Just slight edge in specs over those rivals' phones would not be good enough. That would be why Samsung sets higher specs with its products for the 'home' market, I guess.
58. warren24 (Posts: 19; Member since: 02 Apr 2013)
we need to think from theur point of view...
Koreans (like me) hate it cuz it seems like theyre testing new stuff out on korea. what ever problem the exynos will create, Koreans will have to deal with it, unlike the snapdragon which has proven to be stable.
76. KR_Maintanker (Posts: 5; Member since: 02 May 2012)
It's because in their home country South Korea, Sammy can make decisions of phones specification, but in other areas, local carriers make decisions of spec. Sammy do not insist their opinion and receive carrier's demand. That's the problem.
3. henrickrw (Posts: 408; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Just read this a minute ago on the sammobile website. Yes, Samsung International above the competition again.now let's see what the HRC One owners have to say. Haters gonna Hate
4. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Cant wait to get my hands on this and feel the pure power of 4xA15 Cpu™
Root is already available!
AOKP OR RESSURECTION OR CM10 ROMS WITH KERNELS
I've heard and read that the A15 CPU can be over-clocked to upto 2.3GHZ, and PVR GPU can be over-clocked to700MHZ should be on par with PVR554 ™
Antutu 30000, after rooting this should be scoring 35000
11. linneti15 (Posts: 49; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
PVR 554 is almost exactly the same as 553 in performance :)
53. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Err what? There is no 553, i think you meant 543? The 543 is not as fast as an 554 as the 554 has a much bigger die area which is more appropriate for a tablet rather than a smartphone.
21. SleepingOz (unregistered)
It'll be a pity if you put AOSP ROMs on it.
You will lose tons of features that make the GSIV, the GSIV!
Wait for Omega, Monxdified and other TW frameworks based ROMs.
45. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
TROLL, did you forget to log out of your other 10 alias accounts here on PhoneArena? We all know that you're a paid shill, and that Samsung recruited you on the cheap. However, don't worry, because you're still my favorite chew toy ;o)
52. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
IF Samsung underclocked the cpu because of heat and battery consuption why are you overclocking it to 2.3ghz and the GPU at 700mhz? Do you want a mobile oven? I have actually underclocked my quad A9 to 1.2ghz (from 1.5) and i can't notice diferences in speed, don't get why people overclock their phones, braging rights maybe? Take in mind that the PowerVR GPU in the Galaxy S4 is almost the same in the iPhone 5 and overclocked, and there are many people complaining the iPhone 5 gets hot while gaming and you want to overclock it even more?
5. thethird (Posts: 72; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
Excited for what is instore for the Note 3!! GO SAMMY! [+]
10. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Nice scores, Sammy. It won't make a difference in daily performance, but hey, bragging rights.
64. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Thats what they said about the s3 US vs s3 international. Compared to the international s3 the US one sucks and it is laggy.
67. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I would have to disagree. I haven't made my U.S GS3 lag yet.
12. baldilocks (Posts: 743; Member since: 14 Dec 2008)
It won't even be noticeable. Not even gonna fret over it. :) The Snapdragon version will have a much larger mod community.
38. bucky (Posts: 2572; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
That's the one thing I care about when it comes to these versions. At this point there should be no noticeable difference in performance (though there was a huge difference in the s3 versions).
13. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
SAMSUNG, SAMsung, samsung... I call on my fellow Americans to only buy the Exynos Octa 5 1.8 GHZ with LTE... And I hope that Sammy does not put (MONEY or SALES QUOTA), ahead of consumers RESPECT, when MY Note III is ready for MARKET! We shall wait on the BEST, and will BUY nothing LESS!
60. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Anyone wondering where to get an exynos 5 version in the US look on Amazon after they come out.
14. Esf_Kid (Posts: 49; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)
im so happy that Exynos version will come to Asia.
18. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
And of course the winner is the Samsung Galaxy S4........... ;)
The Galaxy S4 rules the benchmark! :D
20. k4j98 (Posts: 60; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)
1. Who cares?
2. Better? Yes, but I wouldn't say it's head and shoulders above it.
22. jbitounis (Posts: 54; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
Could someone please explain to me why would an average consumer care for these benchmark results? I mean, what in the world would someone do with all this processing power? Do Angry Birds fly faster?
26. KParks23 (Posts: 618; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
No just that the population is full of morons!
27. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
And in your world angry birds are the pinnacle of Android apps, I take?
It is very easy to see phones turning into our only computing device that connects to peripheral modules.
Heard about the Padfone?
Take it this way..
You have a phone with the power of this S4 or higher, yet you want a new tablet/ultrabook for your main computing device.
Would you rather buy a $200 hi-resolution screen+keyboard module (if there was one)to simply use a super powerful phone with, running an all-device convergent OS?
I know I would.
It is only a matter of manufacturers finally coming to their senses and starting producing such modules in a standardized form (Xperia module, Galaxy module, etc)
35. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
..or, as simply as this video shows:
A desktop replacement!
All that's left now is a desktop OS running in your phone (android 5 should be able to offer desktop mode, and there are future convergent Linux and Windows releases prepping up too )
You really lack vision, you know?
The more powerful the phones, the better!
81. jbitounis (Posts: 54; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
So, having enough processing power to run the same OS and the same apps on a bigger screen is the whole point? Padfone, as you already pointed out, offers that capability. Sure, that's neat, but I'm afraid that's about it. However, if you think you will be able to mutlitask desktop programs just with the processing power of a S4, then I'm afraid you'll be gravely dissapointed. Unfortunately, this is just not possible at the moment.
To get things straight, I don't frown upon hardware advancements, but it's the entire mobile experience that needs to get better, and that's also a software issue. And software, unfortuantely, doesn't evolve as fast as hardware does.
48. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)
i try using phone with single, dual and quad core,
single core load apps like crap.
Dual core load apps is OK
quad core load apps is super fast.
i care about time saving. but if you have all the time in the world, single core is enough
82. jbitounis (Posts: 54; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
You're right about that. Faster is always better. However, the difference between a dual-core and a quad-core is sometimes measured by fractions of a second. I guess, in the end, it depends on what kind of apps each one of us uses. For instance, a S2 more than covers my needs for the time being.
24. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Those who think this won't be noticeable in daily use.. depends on the use.
Large file management and complex future apps, to name a few examples.
While the result clearly shows that A15 is far superior to Krait 300 per clock, there's also the GPU that should be significanly faster than the Adreno 320(even the clocked up version in the S4).
Last but not least - the battery life!
That one will be the most interesting category to me, in comparison with the snapdragon 600.
If Samsung manages to win that round too, then this Exynos will indeed be a considerable advantage.
33. ahhxd717 (Posts: 332; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)
I wouldn't say Far superior. I mean, the scores aren't that different. And not that much at all if we realize it's a Kraft core versus a true A15. 3000 points is really not a lot. And the Exynos is clocked only 100 Mhz below the S600 (if I remember correctly). But yeah, I would certainly hope A15 cores to be better than krait, especially considering it's battery drain without the other four cores.
36. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Actually, the 28000 score is of the 1.6Ghz Exynos.
The 1.8Ghz one should score over 30000.
As said in the article
65. HDShatter (Posts: 1021; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)
Samsung giving the Koreans a 200mhz boost... I will be rooting and ocing to 1.8ghz lol
25. voxmarc (Posts: 332; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)
well it keeps getting better and better....
28. martinlosha (unregistered)
There you have it, the prove.
People buy Samsung phones not because of the Android os but because of the great power those phones provide.
29. voxmarc (Posts: 332; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)
here some hidden innovation of S4 from SamMobile....
30. mittalmailbox (Posts: 51; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
Qualcomm 800 must be laughing at this post,lets see what sammy have to compete krait 400 cores.
32. amansingal14 (Posts: 309; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
It gained 32000 on a preannouncement period "LG" Phone with 1080p display. As we know, LG is not very good with software enhancements, lets wait for what Sony and htc H2 flagships have to offer with the S800...
46. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)
Well Tegra 4 did get 36000 points clocked on 1.9 GHz, while snapdragon is on 2.3 GHz and will get probably about the same as Tegra 4. If Exynos 5410 would be overclocked to 2.3 Ghz it should be on par or even better than 800 (because of the A15 cores). Or maybe 800 will surprise me and will be better than A15. Qualcomm uses their own cores and not the A15 because of its massive drain on battery. I don´t think that 800 will be more powerful than A15 but maybe it will, it will be an interesting fight to see.
What I would like to see from somebody to do is the same thing that Qualcomm did with their Krait cores. They took the A9 and A15 cores and build a hybrid and that is something that somebody should do with the A57 and A53 cores. ARM said that these new cores should be much more powerful and in the same time take much less battery.
31. voxmarc (Posts: 332; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)
hey PA notice the 480dpi on the next page.....is it the same as 440ppi...or they are using a different screen size in korea?