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Even if you don't like Facebook, you have to like what Home is doing (especially if you're Google)

0. phoneArena 12 Apr 2013, 21:35 posted on

We understand that there are plenty of you out there who don't like Facebook, and we want to make it clear right off the bat: your feelings about Facebook as a service have no bearing on the argument we're laying out here. Facebook Home launched today on a few Android devices. It had a bit of a rough start, and as we all expected, it's really made for the high-functioning Facebook junkie and not really anyone else. However, the idea behind Facebook is one that we should all pay attention to...

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 22:12 7

1. snowgator (Posts: 3210; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


No complaints here. This gives me and everyone else who wants a stock Android phone an easier avenue to get there. I am "tech knowledgeable", not really "tech savvy", so I am pleased to have this option. I am a Windows Phone fan, but am very amused with choices.

For those that live,eat, and breathe social networks, this is a welcome addition to the Android Army. Facebook is something I am tired of, but they are not stupid. This will be successful.

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 22:13 24

2. androidTaker (unregistered)


I don't like Facebook home. I have my own home. Why should I go to Mark Zuckerburg's home?

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 22:28 3

4. nobelset (Posts: 269; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


._. lol...

posted on 14 Apr 2013, 09:35

33. Avicktim (Posts: 22; Member since: 09 Apr 2013)


That was whack..

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 22:18 4

3. jroc74 (Posts: 4795; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Once again, nice article by Michael. I guess these are called editorials? Dont really know.

This is one of the few times I dont agree with ya. lol. I dont like what Facebook Home is doing. Unless...Facebook Home is completely uninstallable, and can be installed on any Android phone. If thats the case...its the first step towards OEM UI's showing up in the Play Store.

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 22:51 1

5. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6499; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Why so they can track or see what im doing on my phone. No thank u

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 23:10

6. Owlet (Posts: 446; Member since: 21 Feb 2011)


That was a bit boring and repetitive, Michael, sorry.... And, I don't want any part of FB Home.

posted on 12 Apr 2013, 23:23 2

7. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5494; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Sorry Michael, I don't want FB home, not even a single word!
This article makes me feel like they're pointing a gun on my head, and forcing me to say "I want FB home".

If FB home really needs to be on my phone (Android), then sorry, I will change to Windows Phone right away. I'm serious!

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 00:32 11

8. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2674; Member since: 26 May 2011)


How does this editorial say anything forcing you to want FB Home? The whole point is that it's all a choice and I'd like to see more choices of non-conventional launchers.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 00:44 4

10. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


Michael, I feel bad for you. It seems like every time you put up an article like this no one seems to understand your stance. You always try to establish neutrality but it always flies over heads.

Too many emotions cloud their comprehension...

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 01:30 1

11. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5494; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Michael, I didn't say this editorial is forcing me to want FB Home, I only said I don't like it, it makes me feel like Facebook is pointing a gun at my head and forcing me to say "I want FB Home". Why do I feel like this? Because the title says "Even if you don't like Facebook, you have to like what Home is doing (especially if you're Google)". The title feels like Facebook is forcing me........

I didn't say it was you, I didn't say it was this editorial. It was the title!

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 07:14 1

18. blazee (Posts: 271; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)


i think youre just confused by the English language lol

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 08:25

19. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5494; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Maybe I am, cuz English is not my native language......

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 10:24 6

23. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2674; Member since: 26 May 2011)


The title could be read that way if you don't bother to read the full article. But the point is much different once you get into the piece itself.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 10:32

26. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5494; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Yes, I have read the full article. And yes, I admit that I misunderstood the whole article, sorry about that!

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 11:40 1

29. lyndon420 (Posts: 1741; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


It was a good article Michael. Thankyou.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 00:37

9. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


I feel like none of the commenters so far even understood the point of the article.

First of all, it's completely optional. Even on the 'dedicated' phone HTC First. If you can install it from the Play Store then obviously you can uninstall it as well... (@jroc74)

Second, he was more focusing on the fact that Facebook has really brought close to Amazon-levels of modding that really gives you a more unique interface and not 'lite' skins from other partners. I agree with Michael -- I can't wait to see some very ambitious deviations for a fresh experience. Even if I'm only trying it out temporarily.

"our feelings about Facebook as a service have no bearing on the argument we're laying out here"

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 01:32

12. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5494; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Dude, this is nobody's fault, it was just the title. The title feels like forcing!

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 03:52 1

15. boosook (Posts: 1009; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


The title did not say that you must like facebook home, but that you must appreciate the possibility of changing the launcher in android IF YOU WANT TO, and that FB home takes this concept to the limit, creating a new breed of more evoluted and dynamic launchers where other companies will probably create more interesting products that you might also like, and that anyway you're not forced to use if you don't. And that this is good for android in any case, because it's the only os where you can do this and so it's an advantage over wp and ios.
You did not even read the article IMO.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 10:29 3

25. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2674; Member since: 26 May 2011)


The title says "you have to like what Home IS DOING" not "you have to like Home"

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 10:39

27. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5494; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


Ok sorry about that, I misunderstood the title and the article. I'm sorry!

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 01:43

13. Wiki_jaan (Posts: 703; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)


whats nxt.... twitter Home or may be twitter building

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 02:36

14. nerdylish (Posts: 51; Member since: 13 Apr 2013)


Sorry, Michael. I don't agree on the fact that Google has nothing to fear. By asserting itself as the main interface on Android phones, Facebook gets to decide the default choices for which messaging systems to use (Facebook’s), which photo galleries to use (Facebook’s) and eventually which search engine to use (Facebook’s partner Microsoft), which advertising to display (Facebook’s) and which apps and games to favor (Facebook’s). Google is surely losing the upper hand.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 03:55

16. boosook (Posts: 1009; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


This is true. Fb home might be good for android users, but not for google. Google is interested in spreading google apps, and android is their trojan horse.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 10:04

22. Lboogey6 (Posts: 266; Member since: 31 Jan 2012)


people its just an option he's just saying it provides a different experience for users who love simplicity and facebook its neat its different im trying it out do i love it not really do i hate it no i see where some people can like it. chatheads i will say is pretty awesome. but really isnt that serious.

good article mike

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 10:26 1

24. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2674; Member since: 26 May 2011)


I'm working on another editorial about this exact argument. Spoliers: I disagree with you.

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 11:00 2

28. dmakun (Posts: 177; Member since: 06 Jun 2011)


Another fine article Michael, I agree with every point in it. Surely the availability & possibility to choose/change how one wants his/her device to function and look is the attraction that drives innovation in the android ecosystem.

My hope is that soon OEMs will add their unique skins on top of android in a manner similar to the Facebook home launcher (at least to turn it off completely when one prefers alternative skins/launchers).

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 13:02

30. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


That's what I like about android is that it can be almost anything

posted on 13 Apr 2013, 16:40

31. roscuthiii (Posts: 1803; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Always an interesting read, as well as insightful editorialization, MIchael. They haven't made you Editor-In-Chief yet???

posted on 14 Apr 2013, 09:09

32. ahhxd717 (Posts: 317; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)


Don't try to reason with these people. Well most of them. I wholly agree with you, Michael. What bothers me is that all the Android purists/fanatics praise Android for being so open and being able to do anything, etc., but they always are like "STOCK ANDROID OR NOTHING AT ALL!!!!". Well if you want an untouched, non customizable device, maybe you don't like android that much at all in reality. People always bash companies for actually utilizing Androids openness, while still trying to praise Google for creating such an open, customizable OS- this being a prime example. Facebook is actually taking full advantage of what Android offers, in a way that other companies haven't really done before. Nobody is forcing a Facebook phone on you, or forcing you to go to the play Store and download this launcher. So instead of freaking out about this, at least think about the flexibility and openness of android involved in building Facebook Home. If you think Android is meant to be untouched, pure, and whatnot, maybe look into WP8. Or choose an Android phone that doesn't have a Launcher. It's reslly simple.

posted on 15 Apr 2013, 11:18

34. itreday (Posts: 68; Member since: 24 May 2012)


Majority of the people in my area age group (16-22) has moved to twitter..

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