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Eric Schmidt says Android is "winning [the] war" against Apple

0. phoneArena 12 Dec 2012, 10:51 posted on

Exactly one week ago, Eric Schmidt was saying that Google and Apple have an adult relationship, and are not fighting each other at every turn. Today, Schmidt may be explaining why that relationship is possible: because the war is over. Steve Jobs notoriously promised to bring "thermonuclear war" to Android and destroy the platform, but years later, Schmidt is saying that Android is "winning [the] war pretty clearly" against Apple...

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posted on 12 Dec 2012, 21:08

69. Tele7 (Posts: 47; Member since: 12 Dec 2012)


Well, yes, it will kick its ass 'couse it will be an older technology....but wait for the Galaxy S4!

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 14:00 4

39. tedkord (Posts: 12321; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Not yet, no. But give Koh a few days to decimate the damages and invalidate a patent or two. Then justice will have prevailed.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 14:22

45. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


The eyes of truth is always watching us!
We are all awaiting for that day™®©

posted on 13 Dec 2012, 04:45

82. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Hmm looks like you are in direct commiunication with bosses at APPL ... I am sure they would also know that market decides where war is headed and not some cheap "Rhetorics" dished out to keep the fleeing flock together :)

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 13:01 4

29. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Its well over in most countries except the US,android is massively outselling ios in most places,I've seen the s3 outselling the iphone 5 as much as 4:1.

I used the android jedi photo in this article as my profile avater once! The truth is in the picture!

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 10:57 3

4. sudbury78 (Posts: 136; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)


You are all such haters hahha.

-sent from my Galaxy note 2.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 11:04

8. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14310; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


From his twisted perspective maybe. But when you look at the numbers and the support behind Apple, a more reasonable person would see this isn't the case. Depth wise, I think Apple has the edge.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 11:10 14

12. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Apple still has about 50% of the install base, but is losing share every year. Can you please point to the numbers that show otherwise?

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 11:57 2

20. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14310; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


If I'm not mistaken, PA did an article on it. I'll have to find it.

I disagree with Apple losing market share. You also have to take into account that Android is exposed on more devices than iOS is.

Unless you mean stock share.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 12:45 18

27. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


I don't really understand how you can "disagree with Apple losing market share". The market share numbers aren't an opinion.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 13:44 1

35. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14310; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I'm not calling it an opinion. I am calling it slightly misleading. If the market share was decreasing then how do you explain the iPhone 5 selling more units in the past few months it's been out?

You talk about Apple losing market share but you don't acknowledge the many scenarios that can and have taken place.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 13:58 9

37. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


As I said, Apple got a boost in market share with the release of the iPhone 5, which has temporarily brought it back to just above Android in market share in the short term. But, Android is still outselling the iPhone by a wide margin on a longer timeline, and has consistently been taking away tablet market share as well. Those trends don't look to be changing at all.

posted on 13 Dec 2012, 07:11 1

85. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14310; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Yes but you also have to remember there are many more Android devices out there than iPhones. Many Android devices can be gotten for cheap on both contract and prepaid.

I can sort of agree on that point since that's a market Apple hasn't really broken into as a whole. If Apple chose to enter a budget friendly iPhone into the market and not just the previous version when the new one comes out, I seriously think the tables would turn rather quickly.

That's why I said up above that I disagree and that the results don't necessary paint the entire picture.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 14:00 3

38. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


You're talking about the market share in the US. Apple share came up slightly, but still quite a percentage behind Android. Everywhere else outside the US, it's Android land. Like Michael has mentioned in the article, Apple focused on profit while Google focused on market share. It's normal for Apple to lose market share.

posted on 13 Dec 2012, 08:37

86. iami67 (Posts: 318; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


What world do you live in. Apple has not been selling more of anything then in the last few months.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 13:03 4

30. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Take a look at the market share outside the US,it paints a rosy picture for google

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 14:07 5

43. tedkord (Posts: 12321; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


PA did not so such an article. It was one quarter in one country. They also did an article about the SGS3 selling more on it's own than the iPhone in the UK. If you want to cherry pick data, we can all do that, too.

The fact is that Android worldwide outsells ios by triple, and year over year beats Apple in growth. 70% share to 25% worldwide. You can rationalize it wasn't way you like - Apple makes more profit, Android is in more phones, whatever you like. Apple chose to compete with only one release per year, and that strategy had born dropping market share every year.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 12:01 4

21. MeoCao (unregistered)


Steve Jobs was too greedy, he wanted to take everything and he did not learn from his own PC experience.

I think had Apple licenced iOS back in 2008 Apple could have established a monopoly like MS Windows.

That's good now we have Android and we can say thank you to Mr. Jobs LOL

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 12:23 2

24. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


He dosent even deserve that, let alone respect™®©

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 13:40 4

34. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14310; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


That's pretty ignorant. You may not like him, but Jobs did pioneer many things. His contributions to the tech world will definitely be remembered.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 14:00 4

40. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Agreed. Jobs may not have been a good person or a likable person, and certainly made a lot of bad choices, but his impact on multiple markets can't be denied.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 21:52

72. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


true he did open doors to the tech world......sadly the power got to him and caused his downfall, you have to use power for the benefit of the WORLD.......NOT mainly for yourself and "your" team.....

and not saying he didnt help the world but its clear "now" ... that his "good" ideas became corrupt....by lieing to world, cheating and bullying his way to the top

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 22:19 1

74. Aeires (unregistered)


Jobs opened those doors but never let go of the door handle, trying to decide who and what came through. That was his biggest mistake, assuming he could tell consumers what they wanted and had to deal with. Google kicked open that door and told consumers you can have it any way you want.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 14:42 11

47. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Jobs was a thief.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 17:34 2

58. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Pioneer what....? my foot! Took idears that already existence and just modified it, like Networkdood said, he's a thief, neither did he revolutionise nor evolutionised anything™®©

posted on 13 Dec 2012, 04:49

83. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


So did Thomas Alva Edison (without sueing anyone). Timew to learn that it is not sensible to be basking is glory of yesteryears forever ... SJ is gone so move on :)

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 11:05 3

9. iDroid8 (Posts: 155; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)


Can I give the whole article a thumbs up?

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 11:18 5

15. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


I believe the best way to do that is by sharing the link.

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 13:20

32. kanagadeepan (Posts: 949; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


Done brother...

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 11:07 1

10. stevetruman (Posts: 15; Member since: 27 Jul 2012)


im so bored with android now.. :(

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