Eric Schmidt says Android is "winning [the] war" against Apple
0. phoneArena 12 Dec 2012, 10:51 posted on
Exactly one week ago, Eric Schmidt was saying that Google and Apple have an adult relationship, and are not fighting each other at every turn. Today, Schmidt may be explaining why that relationship is possible: because the war is over. Steve Jobs notoriously promised to bring "thermonuclear war" to Android and destroy the platform, but years later, Schmidt is saying that Android is "winning [the] war pretty clearly" against Apple...
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1. ajac09 (Posts: 1370; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
key the isheep in 5..4..3..2..1.. oh wait one probobly beat me as I typed this lol. Either way android IOS just enjoy your device! and dont buy Blackberry!
5. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 5154; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
If you're trying to be funny you're not succeeding.
23. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
It is funny and the truth, what world are you in? Type i$h€€p in Google!
Rhis is really great news to hear that Apples days are coming to a tumble. The bad fruit masters in disguise is very dangerous to conglomerate business with. Everyone all over the world is seranadeiing of this good news™®©
49. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4526; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
What I have been noticing is that Apple sells more to the fashion conscious. Meaning that it's more an accessory like a purse (for women) or a fancy watch (for men). Those people want to be seen using it.
People who want the best piece of technology & wants a true productivity companion in their pocket always go for Android.
It's sad when you see older folks with iPhone & you ask them why they got it & they say because they thought it's cool or because their friends have them, yet they still can't use the phone for more than phone calls, texting & the occasional email.
Now an Android user knows their phone & can do more things with it, other than calls, text, & the occasional email.
Did you know that the baby boomers are adopting the iPhone? They are 60+ now. That is retirement age folks. It's just like the Samsung commercial. The younger person was waiting in line in place of his parents so they can get the iPhone.
Believe it or not, it's not so fictional.
73. Aeires (unregistered)
That same generation is buying the iPad because it's easier to use than a computer. Apple is now for old people, who'd have thunk it?
88. rickywinataa (Posts: 262; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
iPhone is mostly for style, but IMO people buy iPad because their ecosystem & apps selection.
84. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 5154; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
I can sum all of that up to one word - denial. The iPhone has many more accessories than Android. Well that's because Android releases a phone practically every other day. That's why you see so many different variety of cases.
Your picture you're painting here is very much misleading as I know a lot of young people who have iPhones.
78. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
Thats kind of conceded saying," we"re clearly pretty much winning the war here"
Oh, and rude as well!
7. bucky (Posts: 1628; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
People keep saying that I don't find any apple fans fighting here. Just a bunch of android fans fighting amongst themselves
17. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1676; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
Why are we fighting? There is no clear winner. It's like cars, everyone like different kind of cars and brand. So who cares. just enjoy the phone you have.
50. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
Well iDiSagree, I'm fighting for Apple. How dare Eric say that Android is 'winning [the] war' and eating Apple's iCherry pie; it's not a very nice thing to say. Why would you reveal to everyone that you're eating someone else's pie, that's not a very gentlemanly thing to say pubicly.
Eric Schmidt should be restricted to wiFi as punishment; he should also pubicly App'ologize to Tim Cook for his iNdiScretiOn.
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66. JohnnyBravo (Posts: 105; Member since: 02 Dec 2012)
I wonder how many closet Blackberry fans will come out of the closet next year. iOS and Android will be tops but third will be Blackberry over WP8.
25. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1411; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
latest uncle sam poster - I WANT YOU TO BUY AN ANDROID DEVICE
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48. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
In a perfect world, iOS, Android, WP, and BB would all be available, but I just don't think that the pie is big enough for all of them to have it and remain profitable. Too many people have moved on from BB at this point, and it will be very difficult for them to attract their former customers back. Not impossible, but extremely unlikely.
59. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)
It's kinda like an ex girlfriend or ex boyfriend situation. If you can go back and do, fine, but I'd bet you that the vast majority who try that end up seeing it as a HUGE mistake lol.
67. JohnnyBravo (Posts: 105; Member since: 02 Dec 2012)
I dont think its about how big of a pie etc. For Blackberry I think its all about a certain demographic. Long gone are the days that Blackberry ruled the smartphone world. They might possibly never be tops again but I think RIM is ok with that. Their phones and how they market them are not for teens that love to root Androids or for Grampas that like to shop at iTunes. As long as they sell phones and regain their targeted audience I believe they will be ok with that.
I welcome options and Im sick and tired of two main OSs. Bring on BB10 and a more refined WP8!!
2. MeoCao (unregistered)
And Mr. Schmidt is right!
11. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)
Oh well, that's basically the article 85% people here have been waiting for.
Let's say they are winning clearly but that doesn't mean Apple is going down: it'll just be the alternative to Android, like Mac OS is for Windows.
19. MeoCao (unregistered)
I think Apple won't play a positive role as an alternative to Android as Apple is a closed ecosystem where everything depends on Apple. I don't think Apple will disappear either as the World is big and there's a place for them, but Apple will be an unimportant player.
Android is not a monolithic force but a open system where there are many choices and opportunities. Every1 can be the next big thing, people follow Google's lead now only because of 1 thing: Google does the job better than any1 else.
41. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
You're right, Apple will continue to stay alive some how... afterall, Macs lasted all this time till now even when MS won in the computer OS war.
60. jroc74 (Posts: 5201; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I agree. Android offered choice of phones, choice of carriers, low cost. 3 major things that Apple underestimated. Its too lil too late IMO. iPhone, iPad isnt going anywhere, but Android is winning the war.
Apple's main concern was profit and being exclusive. Nothing wrong with that, but there are cons to that scenario.
3. ilia1986 (unregistered)
The war is over. Justice, freedom and consumer choice have prevailed. :D
13. amiaq (Posts: 503; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
Yeah.. just wait until Apple unleash the iPhone 5s, the Galaxy S killer!! ;-) Galaxy S Killer !! Get it?
69. Tele7 (Posts: 47; Member since: 12 Dec 2012)
Well, yes, it will kick its ass 'couse it will be an older technology....but wait for the Galaxy S4!
39. tedkord (Posts: 5908; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Not yet, no. But give Koh a few days to decimate the damages and invalidate a patent or two. Then justice will have prevailed.
45. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
The eyes of truth is always watching us!
We are all awaiting for that day™®©
82. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Hmm looks like you are in direct commiunication with bosses at APPL ... I am sure they would also know that market decides where war is headed and not some cheap "Rhetorics" dished out to keep the fleeing flock together :)
29. andro. (Posts: 1977; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Its well over in most countries except the US,android is massively outselling ios in most places,I've seen the s3 outselling the iphone 5 as much as 4:1.
I used the android jedi photo in this article as my profile avater once! The truth is in the picture!
4. sudbury78 (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)
You are all such haters hahha.
-sent from my Galaxy note 2.
8. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 5154; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
From his twisted perspective maybe. But when you look at the numbers and the support behind Apple, a more reasonable person would see this isn't the case. Depth wise, I think Apple has the edge.
12. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Apple still has about 50% of the install base, but is losing share every year. Can you please point to the numbers that show otherwise?
20. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 5154; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
If I'm not mistaken, PA did an article on it. I'll have to find it.
I disagree with Apple losing market share. You also have to take into account that Android is exposed on more devices than iOS is.
Unless you mean stock share.
27. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I don't really understand how you can "disagree with Apple losing market share". The market share numbers aren't an opinion.
35. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 5154; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
I'm not calling it an opinion. I am calling it slightly misleading. If the market share was decreasing then how do you explain the iPhone 5 selling more units in the past few months it's been out?
You talk about Apple losing market share but you don't acknowledge the many scenarios that can and have taken place.
37. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
As I said, Apple got a boost in market share with the release of the iPhone 5, which has temporarily brought it back to just above Android in market share in the short term. But, Android is still outselling the iPhone by a wide margin on a longer timeline, and has consistently been taking away tablet market share as well. Those trends don't look to be changing at all.
85. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 5154; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Yes but you also have to remember there are many more Android devices out there than iPhones. Many Android devices can be gotten for cheap on both contract and prepaid.
I can sort of agree on that point since that's a market Apple hasn't really broken into as a whole. If Apple chose to enter a budget friendly iPhone into the market and not just the previous version when the new one comes out, I seriously think the tables would turn rather quickly.
That's why I said up above that I disagree and that the results don't necessary paint the entire picture.
38. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
You're talking about the market share in the US. Apple share came up slightly, but still quite a percentage behind Android. Everywhere else outside the US, it's Android land. Like Michael has mentioned in the article, Apple focused on profit while Google focused on market share. It's normal for Apple to lose market share.
86. iami67 (Posts: 318; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
What world do you live in. Apple has not been selling more of anything then in the last few months.
30. andro. (Posts: 1977; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Take a look at the market share outside the US,it paints a rosy picture for google
43. tedkord (Posts: 5908; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
PA did not so such an article. It was one quarter in one country. They also did an article about the SGS3 selling more on it's own than the iPhone in the UK. If you want to cherry pick data, we can all do that, too.
The fact is that Android worldwide outsells ios by triple, and year over year beats Apple in growth. 70% share to 25% worldwide. You can rationalize it wasn't way you like - Apple makes more profit, Android is in more phones, whatever you like. Apple chose to compete with only one release per year, and that strategy had born dropping market share every year.
21. MeoCao (unregistered)
Steve Jobs was too greedy, he wanted to take everything and he did not learn from his own PC experience.
I think had Apple licenced iOS back in 2008 Apple could have established a monopoly like MS Windows.
That's good now we have Android and we can say thank you to Mr. Jobs LOL
24. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
He dosent even deserve that, let alone respect™®©
34. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 5154; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
That's pretty ignorant. You may not like him, but Jobs did pioneer many things. His contributions to the tech world will definitely be remembered.
40. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Agreed. Jobs may not have been a good person or a likable person, and certainly made a lot of bad choices, but his impact on multiple markets can't be denied.
72. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
true he did open doors to the tech world......sadly the power got to him and caused his downfall, you have to use power for the benefit of the WORLD.......NOT mainly for yourself and "your" team.....
and not saying he didnt help the world but its clear "now" ... that his "good" ideas became corrupt....by lieing to world, cheating and bullying his way to the top
74. Aeires (unregistered)
Jobs opened those doors but never let go of the door handle, trying to decide who and what came through. That was his biggest mistake, assuming he could tell consumers what they wanted and had to deal with. Google kicked open that door and told consumers you can have it any way you want.
58. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Pioneer what....? my foot! Took idears that already existence and just modified it, like Networkdood said, he's a thief, neither did he revolutionise nor evolutionised anything™®©
83. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
So did Thomas Alva Edison (without sueing anyone). Timew to learn that it is not sensible to be basking is glory of yesteryears forever ... SJ is gone so move on :)
15. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2693; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I believe the best way to do that is by sharing the link.