Engineer claims that Consumer Reports is wrong about the iPhone 4
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CNET author Joe Aimonetti says that he can replicate the drop in signal strength when he holds the unit in the lower left corner. Because he has not dropped a call or suffered lower call quality despite the lower number of signal bars, he feels that this proves that the problem is indeed a software problem like Apple claims and can be corrected with an upgrade. Will we ever get a final answer that cannot be challenged or is this battle destined to become the hi-tech version of the Hatfields and the McCoys?
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2. ToddD00 posted on 14 Jul 2010, 11:19 0 0
Yeah. And because you said this it must be true. --moron
3. dyster posted on 14 Jul 2010, 11:20 0 0
He is wrong. The CR engineers used a RF proof chamber and also tested other AT&T hand sets which surprisingly "worked", while the iphone had issues or did not work. He's coming to the defense of apple with unknown motives. Remember, this is also a little egg on CR's face to retract their approval. Many, many people hold them in high regard for their insight. Too many engineers and professors of EE are saying it's a design flaw. This clown does not sway me. Sorry Apple. Do right by your customers and replace their phones. They will forgive you....
4. ilia1986 posted on 14 Jul 2010, 11:22 0 0
Agreed. If CR is wrong - why did Apple delete the posts of the users who posted CR's conclusions? This all smells very fishy. If you smell it correctly.
8. theGodpapa posted on 14 Jul 2010, 11:55 0 0
Agreed with dryster, could not have put it better myself.
16. *HOVA* posted on 14 Jul 2010, 13:29 0 0
I love how PA has so many experts here commenting. More like a comedy club.
20. ajac09 posted on 14 Jul 2010, 18:13 0 0
and becasue you got blow into oblivion with your comment no one cares about your comment - loser
21. wade1968 posted on 14 Jul 2010, 18:44 0 0
It's a shame that an engineer "who didn't assemble the phone" opened their mouth like they made it from the begining. Can't control the assembly line when its 1000's of miles away.
22. becazican (unregistered) posted on 14 Jul 2010, 19:20 0 0
hova, you are the first one to let people believe you are some kind of expert instead of the loser you are
25. remixfa posted on 15 Jul 2010, 12:23 0 0
engineer? more like defencive fanboy. CR used a very controlled test and multiple handsets. Sorry, but that ruled out ATT's network point blank. As bad as the network is, its the phone's issue. What other people seem to keep missing is the whole signal strenth issue. Apple has been lying since the first iphone about signal strength to make it look like a stronger signal than it is.. And yet, the iphones never kept a strong signal to begin with. They came out and admitted the signal strength meter has been reading wrong to try and say that was the problem to keep from having to do a recall. So 1) The Iphone4 has a serious signal/antennae flaw 2) instead of recalling phones or sending free skins to customers, they thought it was better to admit theyve been lying to you since the beginning 3) people STILL defend apple blindly, even after being lied to, being called too stupid to hold the phone correctly, and blatantly trying to hide bad reviews. Your I-diots. fanboys are insaine... period.
5. CHEFJEFF posted on 14 Jul 2010, 11:26 0 0
Who the HELL is Bob Egan? Some FANBOY no doubt! Or maybe he was paid off to give his so called expert opinion. Give me a F*****G break!
6. zerglisk posted on 14 Jul 2010, 11:48 0 0
Egan probably got a large c@sh in his mailbox with Jobs' face on it
10. QWIKSTRIKE posted on 14 Jul 2010, 12:15 0 0
Agreed the engineer is a fanboy moron....the fact that touching the unit there by reducing signal strenght is a hardware design flaw period. To suggest AT&T is at fault is just palin stupid. All the other iPhones don't have "this" issue. We know AT&T sucks, but let's be realistic.....this time it's nopt their fault. Apple just wants stupid fanboyz, and fangurlz money. What a sorry rip off of a joke. They need to come clean, and do righ by all of their supporting Apple groupies period!
11. gomets15217 posted on 14 Jul 2010, 12:28 0 0
agreed. unrelated topic but i gotta ask - did you intentionally say "palin stupid" or is that a mistype for plain stupid? either way works, cuz well, you know palin. just curious as to which you meant to say.
17. *HOVA* posted on 14 Jul 2010, 13:53 0 0
This is Bob Egan: http://www.towergroup.com/rese
arch/analyst/analyst_profile.h I'd say he has more experience then anyone who frequents this site.tm?authorId=332
23. dyster posted on 14 Jul 2010, 21:13 0 0
Ok. I take back the clown statement Mr. Egan. But he is still ignoring ton's of customers, his peers in the industry and professors in the field that say otherwise. BRG says Friday Apple is having a press conf regarding this issue. If they admit it's the phone, his argument will not hold water. I hope for the Iphone 4 users they are going to make this right.
7. messiah posted on 14 Jul 2010, 11:51 0 0
Sneak out an iphone to a bar and get fired, jump to the defence of a broken iphone and make big bucks. Bobby is undoubtedly under the giants payroll it is an assumption prove me wrong. Why didn't this guy speak up about his findings before CR did their testing? he could have refuted all the public claims weks ago. No, no... he was a hired "specialist" to counter CR's unbiased claims and findings. APPLE should not be silent. they should strick up for their own product. You can't blame AT&T. Everyone else with other phones have decent reception high bars, and few if any dropped calls. The issue is with receiving and sending from the device. Any one who is anyone who remembers playing with radios as a kid, or current day teckies (not working for Apple) have crossed antennas from radios. They sqeeled and lost signals. I knew that when i was five. you don't blame the radio station for that.... that is hardware. Apple itself flip flopped on what the issue was. Meaning they did NO testing on their part prior to its release Possibly the early Lost phone freaked them out so much they refused to put it into practice again in real worl scenarios out of fear of "losing" yet another.... Had they had a proper retort and ONE answer then it would have shown they knew what was up and coming and already had a game in progress This sounds like they really got caught with their pants down. Even Steve-O giving his demo couldn't make the demo work as he was "holding it wrong". What were all the claims from apple? AT&T? no coating on antena? No problem found? Software glitch? don't hold it like that? misleading signal strength? all this after claim "this is a thing of beauty, an accomplishment of great engineering We are very proud of this" FAIL. even in his demo his words with no wifi connection "Well, I don't like this". its true folks, his words. if steve-o don't like the inconvenience of a over priced product, why should the puppets? How many android phones are there? and NONE of them drop calls, or require flip flop responces to perfomance. NONE of them are being asked to be pulled from shelves, none are recomended by CR for a recall and "Fix" the issue. Apple, don't insult the public, you face extinction as early as 2012. "We are Droid. Resistence is Apple."
15. networkdood posted on 14 Jul 2010, 13:20 0 0
Yep, I agree, my ANDROID AT&T phone works just fine...
9. lilbranbran posted on 14 Jul 2010, 11:58 0 0
I don't care what this 'expert' guy says. Whatever the signal strength is , bridging the gap with your skin is causing some signal reduction. So even if the reception formula is 'wrong' , there is still an obvious hardware problem. I'm glad that I waiting till next year to get an iPhone , because I am a lefty and I sure do not want to pay $199-$299 for a defective phone !
12. dyster posted on 14 Jul 2010, 12:37 0 0
I speculate Apple most likely rushed the phone because of its exposure in Gizmodo. All HTC, Moto, Etc had a clue that what was coming to counter in the coming months. Anyway.. Anyone who is "self-proclaimed" means they don't have any real credentials. I once changed light bulbs at MIT. Can I be an "expert" too! ;-)
