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Elop chose Windows Phone because it gave Nokia a "key point of differentiation"

0. phoneArena 02 Mar 2013, 21:23 posted on

Nokia CEO Stephen Elop is always pretty good for a generic marketing quote, and he definitely gave a few of those in a recent interview with Bloomberg. But, this time Elop also gave a couple of more interesting generic quotes, one of which was to say that Nokia chose Windows Phone because it gave Nokia a "key point of differentiation"...

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posted on 03 Mar 2013, 01:13 2

72. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


Since when do people get their jollies due to using the OS? WP8 gets the job done, and it also does it more securely than Android. It doesn't have 800,000 apps, but most of that stuff being circulated in the Android sphere is garbage quality anyway. I'd sooner have a smaller collection of apps that are meaningful and better quality, versus an entire library of low quality wares.

Bottom line: quantity does not mean quality. Also, the Lumia 920 has the best camera, outside of the 808, which is also built by Nokia. Fact, not fiction.

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 01:33 1

75. SuperNexus (Posts: 127; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)


All apps in WP stores are inferior than Android apps.
Don't you know that.
WP apps need more polish,

I don't know but when did you try all 800k apps.
Android not only get job done but it will entertain you.

You should buy Nokia 100, it is also gets the job done and it is far cheaper than 920.

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 05:11 2

89. faisal8708 (Posts: 104; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)


Android hav gained market share due to less expensive devices u might not hav used any but i hav thr experience is less than those of Asha's try using them u will understand wht i m sayin. My GS3 hav crashed 5 to 6 times in the past 8 months twices after gettin jellybean once while i was tryin to make a call dont get me wrong android is a great OS but it has its cons

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 04:30

85. JunkCreek (Posts: 407; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


u buy a wrong phone, mate. using cheapest samsunged androided phone galaxy y, and it almost never, rarely crashed. i'm not regular smartphone user. installing these and those, uninstalling, messing around with the systems and roms even underclock or overclocking. got issues when i'm using custom rom, so i switched back to stock. so my xperia mini pro and arc, they are rarely crashes or restarted it self. i'm doing nothing but messing around the setting, but the phone seems to working fine. never ever i had to do a factory reset except for my chinese cheapest tablet a13 allwinner because of its hardware build issues that i thought it was a software issues, after a fix of snaping touch screen, the issues is gone.

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 05:36 1

91. faisal8708 (Posts: 104; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)


Every OS crashes and almost with the same ratio but wht matters is how it deals with crash iOS brings u back to the app drawer and WP8 becomes jittry for a few seconds and then goes back to normal but android becomes unresponsive and thts wht frustrates most of the people

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 08:33

97. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Overpriced?! It's $450 without a contract on AT&T, you fool. Iphone5 is $600, Galaxy S3 is like $700, Note 2 is $800. It's a bargain!

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 08:43

99. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


As a former android user and a WP user of almost a year, you are full of crap. The WP apps are much more refined, have a pleasantly common appearance and functionality, and because of the common hardware within the WP ecosystem, more general compatibility and fewer functionality issues.
Yes, some Android apps have higher graphics capabilities, but only the top-end phones (DNA, Note2, Optimus G, etc) can run them properly, whereas a Lumia 520 can run the same apps as a 920, sometimes better because it is pushing lower resolution. Higher graphics doesn't mean more polished or refined, just higher-res. In fact sometimes it can be worse, as the app will be advertised for its graphics prowess but be a crummy program or experience. My favorite app right now (exclusive to Windows Phone and Windows) is ARMED!, which is essentially like Starcraft but on a smaller scale.

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 10:10

105. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


"HTC does", not dies^ last paragraph. Was typing part last night.

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 10:15

106. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Proto, I would take you more seriously if you said "Lumia" and not that POS mid-90's car the "LumiNa"

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 10:24

107. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Urtard, I invite you to ask your local SWAT team to swap their polycarbonate riot and face shields for regular plastic, and see how they react. Or fighter jets, or hockey helmets, or safety glasses. There IS a difference, and a substantial one at that. I love the polycarbonate on my Lumia and wouldn't change it for any other material commercially viable right now, save perhaps carbon fiber.

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 11:10 1

110. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Oh crap, I just noticed I've been misspelling the name >_< dam you autocorrect!

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 13:53

116. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


iOS bringing you back to the app drawer and Android being unresponsive....

Its equivalent to turning Windows Error Reporting on and off. Its not instantaneous on iOS....and the force close message eventually shows up on Android.

After you hit force close...Android is back to normal. If you chose wait...then thats different. Just like on Windows desktop OS.

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 14:01 1

118. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


your and all other guys have valid point but the real thing happened behind the scene was MS made a deal with Nokia about WP7>8 a complete transition for 250Million$ in return per year or month i dont remeber exaclty and this deal was for 2-3 years guess nokia might want to go around but they cant during this time but after that who knows but still wp8 is not fail its not best in UI but it can evolve faster then other OS if the MS wants too

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 14:15 1

119. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


lets talk about alumimium bodies only good thing is light and looks bad ass in first few months othervise they are put "IN THICK AND FAT PROTECTIVE CASES" ahahha so much for being premium my Ass when u cant even keep it open

my guess is more then 70% of sgs3 owners never see the actual body after they put them in cases fancy or crapy cases hahahaa too bad alumium sucks when it comes to scratching effects the color on SGS3 is as crapy as 90's phone so yeah 920 owner will rarely use case BECAUSE the phone is solid to the bones with solid color scratch huh u can even slice the top and u see same color under the hood not just surface i used L800 and a year later it still feels like a month old phone.

for facts i have friends with iPhones and SGS2 and 3s all had them in cases ROFL and some makes the phone weight over 180gm

so i guess if u live in fancy world with cases its u imagination not actully preimiumness of phone unless it is everlasting

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 15:24

124. MartyK (Posts: 885; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Then Utard, you need to read this...Please pay attention to the head line it mention NOTHING about some STUPID features.....

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S-IV-Antutu-benchmark-results-leaked-confirm-many-specifications_id40435

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 16:11

128. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


No worries, my autocorrect has been intrusive today as well (though typing long paragraphs and not reviewing before posting doesn't help much either)

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 17:22 1

131. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I feel your pain man, I feel your pain

posted on 04 Mar 2013, 03:26

134. faisal8708 (Posts: 104; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)


"and the force close message eventually shows up on Android"

It takes along time to come

posted on 06 Mar 2013, 19:44

138. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


You left this out:

"Its not instantaneous on iOS"

Its a different side of the same coin. It took at least 2 minutes for an iOS error to kick back to the home screen when a co worker was showing us clips of his kids school play.

Ony difference is its no error messge on iOS. And I have seen it vary with Android. Some times it happens fast, sometimes it doesnt.

posted on 06 Mar 2013, 19:49

139. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I have an app...that I can make force close. Its something wrong in the Settings of the app. The force close message always shows up fast.

Maybe because I know how to make it happen, it shows up fast..... dont really know.

posted on 02 Mar 2013, 21:55 6

7. tusshharish (Posts: 342; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


nokia choose wp because its very clean neat attractive having great ui. nokia puts their touch in their lumia models and makes them perfect...............

posted on 02 Mar 2013, 22:06 5

14. nikenturd (unregistered)


Yo Elop, ever wonder why most people dislike Windows phones?

posted on 02 Mar 2013, 22:11 4

18. SuperNexus (Posts: 127; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)


I think instead of depending only one platform, they should start producing other platform phones too.(like Android,WebOS,Jolla)

It is not about "Key Point of differentiation", it is about giving customer more choice.

and other manufacturer also produce Window phone, so it is not really a differentiation.

posted on 02 Mar 2013, 22:36 2

26. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


There's something you forgot that gives Nokia an edge with their WP8 Lumia line: Windows Phones require less hardware and memory to achieve the same level of performance in most cases as Android devices. That means Nokia can save money on every device by marketing a dual core flagship instead of a quadcore. The only reason for quadcore being needed on an Android device is because of the sluggish and resource heavy OS itself...

As for other competiting WP8 OEM's, nobody holds a candle to Nokia, and they own the playing field, small though it may be at this time.

posted on 02 Mar 2013, 23:59

64. SuperNexus (Posts: 127; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)


People like to have more features and apps but Window phone is restricted and has 1/5 of android apps.
There are many important app which window is still missing.
and how many people like window phone.....well market share give the answer of that.
All I am saying that if Nokia offer other OS phones too then it will be more profitable than only depending on single OS.
Because profit from Window phone will be same but other OS will also give Nokia more profit.

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 10:28

108. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Name 5 "important" apps WP is missing. Don't even think about saying instagram or remove run or any of that flash-in-the-pan junk. Truly "important" apps.

I won't hold my breath.

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 10:35

109. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Temple run, not remove. Bleh.

posted on 02 Mar 2013, 22:19 3

20. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)


Reality check: nobody (except Samsung) makes any significant money from producing Android devices.

Nokia would have wasted their time trying to be a copy cat like everybody else, and would have gone broke by now. Also, Microsoft is finally getting serious about competing in the mobile world, which means a unified OS is going to be released at some point in the near future. They already made big strides towards that goal with Windows 8, and it's entirely possible that the next generation of Windows Phones may end up running the same OS as what's installed your desktop or laptop.

Nokia has a future with Windows Phone, which is more than they had before they made the switch. Burning platform or not, Symbian was dead long before Elop took over...

posted on 02 Mar 2013, 23:02 7

41. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Nobody is making significant money from windows either, that argument is flawed I don't see any of the current top windows phone devices meaning better cash for anyone

Why is samung so successful?

1. Important main product lineup (Galaxy S and Note Series)
2. Actual advertisement of the product (you ever saw a good android commercial that was not from a Samsung device?)
3. The devices look nice
4. They don't screw up the ui (I'm looking at you HTC)

Samsung is winning because its actually doing it right, Nokia can do that too....

posted on 02 Mar 2013, 23:36 1

56. 14545 (Posts: 1664; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


The paid OS market has to play dirty, if they don't they won't last. Mainly because people will realize there are better open source alternatives.

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