Editorial: The epic adventure of Flash, Andy and the apple guy
0. phoneArena 03 Jul 2012, 09:15 posted on
Once upon a time, there was a little boy named Flash. Flash was among the coolest kids in his neighborhood and did what every other cool and popular kid does...
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2. script_writer (banned) (Posts: 56; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)
Like it!!! Not sure what the point to this is but i still like it.
6. poikilo (Posts: 48; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)
Excellent insight into the phone world and Flash. Well written..
Kudos Raaaaaaay S....
7. itiswhatitis (Posts: 423; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
Nice story but what's the logic behind??
8. Ray.S (Posts: 267; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)
Thanks! My idea was to present this story from a somewhat more artistic, alternative perspective. It doesn't aim to tell you anything new, but rather, something that you already know, in a different way.
14. itiswhatitis (Posts: 423; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
Didnt know you were taling about adobe flash i thought you were talking about Flash Flash like a Super hero...got it now!
22. remixfa (Posts: 14226; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
so.. apple was the "smart guy".. why? If it wasnt for Android trying to push flash, we would not have had the hardware war that has exploded in our very hands (sometimes literally). We've gone from 528mhz single core to 1.5ghz QUADcore in what.. 3 years? If it wasnt for "Andy and Flash wanting to play with all the toys", there would have never been a "need" for that kind of power increase. There sure as heck wasnt before hand. For the nearly 10 years before "andy and flash", processors barely made any progress in the mobile world. from 300mhz to 500-600mhz.. woop.
Seems Andy was really the smart one. By trying to play with everything he created the need for more power, which prompted manufacturers to push the limits over and over again... now we ALL benefit from that. If it was up to the "smart" apple, wed all probably getting to 1.2ghz single cores right now.
Apple didnt want Flash on the iphone because it wasnt super stable on 600mhz processors and flash required access to things that Apple didnt want to give access to. The rest is marketing fluff and Steve Job's stubbornness and nothing else.
35. bayusuputra (Posts: 946; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
i agree, if it weren't for Andy and Flash, we wouldn't have the experience of playing with all those beautiful toys right now..
But lets face it, Apple was also right, we may not be mature enough for that kind of power.. And that we should probably wait..
But from my opinion, personal one i must emphasised, Andy and Flash were the better ones, because remember, experience is the best teacher.. and you will never know if you never try..
turn out, we are actually quite mature for those "toys"..
9. vivzek (Posts: 29; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
Its the story of flash and how it got ousted form mobile world..
11. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Awesome story. However:
Apple = smart? Please.
In real life you don't "break" any "padlocks" or "break in" or cause any damage by having Flash on your Android phone. Why adobe decided to pull out of the mobile world is anyone's guess. I am not sure it was a good decision. In the end - the kids - us - do have fun with flash anywhere.
The Apple kid couldn't physically get into the special structure, since his father programmed his brain to be physically unable to even talk with flash, not to mention hang out with him.
12. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
This is what I thought too.
But nice job, Ray! I have a passion for creative writing as well as technology and this is great for both ends of the spectrum! :D
16. good2great (Posts: 1040; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
neither android or apple could get into the structure...
what he was saying since Andy was so open and approachable he allowed flash to use his ingenuity to break into the special place. this caused the kids to enjoy all the goodness of toys they "never seen before" "NOW"...
apple is smart... come on man... get off your "i hate apple" horse for a second and be real a billion dollar company aint ran by uneducated people...
i knew "somebody" was gonna make this out of an apple insult...smh
the apple kid didnt want to go in the structure at all due to him being safe and cautious. he figured "over time" he'll eventually be given whats inside of the special structure.
at the end of the story you see that even tho both kids are "different" they both benefit from their own logic...
put the HATE down for a second and relax man...
17. ilia1986 (unregistered)
But thing is - you don't have to do anything special to use flash! Why Apple doesn't have it? Not because of some code incompatibility or hardware limitations, but because of Mr. Jobs. Android has it because it's open. And is based on Linux. That means that anything which is based on Linux can run flash.
Again - nothing special about being able to run flash on a mobile device. It's just a matter of being open vs being a control freak aka Apple kid.
"a billion dollar company aint ran by uneducated people"
Really? You do realize that these two parameters have absolutely nothing in common, do you? Apple was also a huge company when they kicked Steve and let Scully and Amelio take over. Didn't do them any good, now did it?
18. good2great (Posts: 1040; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
android didnt start with flash support...
it came after the first or second update... (donut i think)... which is why his story makes sense that the "flash" kid came to their mobile hood...
i understand your last paragrah ilia... i'm just saying the company is still "smart" either way you look at it... its just not a good argument to say apple/google/windows or any company isn't smart...
20. good2great (Posts: 1040; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
and in my opinion in think "special" in this story means... the ability to access certain things that neither OS was able to through the web. flash helped andy and his friends "see" that...
apple guy couldn't or didnt want to due to rules his parents had him follow. but he felt that once he grew up (we all know it takes apple forever to implement things due to their own parameters) he will be able to enjoy whatever flash allows you to see now without any harm or caution.
neither approach is wrong... its just we all HATE rules...lol i get that... we don't want to be locked down or choices made for us...
23. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Precisely. And in a constant advance of technology - you can't just simply wait to implement existing things "the right way". I bet in 2035 the iPhone will finally have widgets. When everyone else will be already using Google Glass 5. :D
31. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Good2great a green from. Is that really you? Your normally on Apple's side.... looks like urge C.o.o.l today!
15. good2great (Posts: 1040; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
wow really guys???!!! as much android vs apple smack yall talk no one was intelligent enough to get the point of his story?! GEEZ!!
Ray S. nice short story sir... i got the point loud and clear!
(i feel like its nap time for some reason after a nice story like this) hahahaha...
19. Ray.S (Posts: 267; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)
Thanks! Feeling like it's nap time wasn't the reaction I was hoping for, but still, I'll take it as a compliment. :D
21. good2great (Posts: 1040; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
yes its a compliment... i havent heard or read a short story in awhile i remember in grade school after the teach read a "good" story we had cookies n milk and it was nap time...
36. bayusuputra (Posts: 946; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
means your story is kinda a bedtime story that everybody loves! congrats! I think you all should make more editorial like this for the current events..
real break from the usual news format..
24. Sniggly (Posts: 7199; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
It's a good story. As someone who's personified he mobile world in stories before, I dig. However, I think Apple's painted as too benevolent here. Considering Jobs's legendary callousness and arrogance, the Apple guy would have really tried to rub his "rightness" in Andy's face.
But again, great job. It would be fun to see more of these.
25. jibraihimi (Posts: 698; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Nice little sweet story, Ray. I think it helped most people understand the 'Flash' saga on smartphones more easily................. Though flash was very demanding on mobile processors and battery life, but most people out there like it very much, so I was hoping that Adoble will come out with some solution, which would had made flash less resource hungry on smartphones........... Hope all the website converts to HTML5 soon, otherwise we will be seeing 'flash not installed' or 'flash not supported' messages too often, as after ios and windowsphone 7/8, now Android is also moving away from flash..........
28. bbblader (Posts: 584; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
''there were also a few adult magazines, but fortunately the kids didn't find those.''
I actually fell off the chair laughing
great story ray :)
29. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
Cool Story! I got it all. Flash a.k.a adobe and Andy a.k.a. Android wanted to start making use of the mobile world more but Apple said it wasnt the right time...HTML 5
30. Sarath (Posts: 19; Member since: 17 Jan 2012)
Good story,and a nice way of telling a fact through it...
Thank you for this wonderful story Ray...
34. mercorp (Posts: 987; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)
Now someone needs to turn this into a manga.
37. bayusuputra (Posts: 946; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
I think it was apple who alerted the CCTV operators.. and then reported them to Policewoman Koh.. :)