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Dutch judge says Apple's patent on "slide to unlock" is probably invalid

0. phoneArena 25 Aug 2011, 18:23 posted on

The same Dutch judge that ordered the preliminary injunction against the sale of three Samsung handsets due to the patent infringement on three Apple patents, is saying that the "slide to unlock" patent that Apple holds is "not inventive" and therefore probably not valid...

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posted on 25 Aug 2011, 18:31 30

1. wumberpeb (Posts: 453; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)


Dear Apple,

Will you ever stop this ridiculous "I Created the World" mentality?

Sincerely,

The Rest of the World

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 21:33

14. quakan (Posts: 1393; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


They just want the money. A lot of companies would have settled out of court with Apple and that would have been the end of it. Bigger companies like Samsung aren't going to back down that easily. Apple would prefer to slow the competition down while they work on something new.

posted on 26 Aug 2011, 07:00 2

78. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


they dont want "the" money.. they want "all" money. they arent trying to get a piece of samsungs actions, they are trying to get rid of samsung as a competitor all together.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 18:40 5

2. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)


even thought the word probably was used .. the fandroids will eat this up... but I wont be available for commments so please leave a message after the beep....

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 19:08 9

10. GALAXY-S (Posts: 701; Member since: 07 Jun 2011)


have a good day isheep!!

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 19:26 7

11. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)


Not available for comments? Your bowing out of this fight rather early homie? No ammunition this time, huh?




Your still the bully.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 22:08

23. s (unregistered)


beep.. beep you you beep beep

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 22:19 7

28. christianqwerty (Posts: 467; Member since: 05 May 2011)


Wp7 is the future, forget laggy fragmented android

posted on 26 Aug 2011, 07:01 1

79. remixfa (Posts: 14594; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


its a typical iphan... like taco, he doesnt even own an iphone.. he just likes to stir crap. :)

posted on 26 Aug 2011, 15:36

116. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)


I agree, WP7 is the future! I'm very impressed with Mango.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 18:41 3

3. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


I guess android devices got away again with another iphone characteristic that they imitated, tsk, tsk, tsk. Oh well, there are still other infringement complaints to come.

Keep it going Apple. Don't let those copycats get away with your IP's easily.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 18:53 8

4. readingthissh1t (Posts: 303; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


jesus kid. iPhone wasnt the first to use that. smh

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 18:54 5

5. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


It was legally proven that Another device had this feature so yeah lets go with what you said

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 18:58 10

8. Penny (Posts: 1662; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


Bother to read the article?

Part of Samsung's defense was that the slide to unlock existed in a Windows device in 2005, before Apple even filed for the patent. Therefore, the characteristic does not belong to Apple. It is not an Apple characteristic. The characteristic is not Apple's to claim. Apple did not invent it. Apple did not come up with it. Apple did not engineer it. Don't get it twisted.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 21:46

15. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Which smartphone used slide to unlock before the iphone?

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 21:48 1

16. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Not on a smartphone? And not with a graphic like the iphone's.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 21:54

17. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@penny. Yes, I've read the article alright, and the article also stated that "Apple's "slide to unlock" features an image on the screen that moves along with the finger, something that the Neonade N1m did not have". Didn't you read that part? And Apple was indeed granted patent for that, so of course they will try to defend it. Also, Samsung should not play innocent in saying that they got the idea from that windows device and not from the iphone. Please. But hey, if ever the court decides to acquit Samsung of that, then so be it.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 21:57 4

18. readingthissh1t (Posts: 303; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


neonode n1m. 2005.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 22:06 4

22. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)


I guess apple will get away with copying androids notification bar...

Really you are going to hang your position in an unlock slider?

I guess I have to repeat myself again... this type of "copying" is normal for all markets.

There is a reason why apple is loosing 90% of their complaints.... because they are not truely patentable.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 22:09 1

24. s (unregistered)


yeah like how apple ripped off the notification system no matter how you fan boys say it apple copies and thats that

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 22:11 1

27. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


There was no graphic that follows your finger on the neonode like it does on the iphone. Also, on neonode, it's for a swiping gesture for commands, not to unlock a phone. Also, Samsung galaxy s2 uses capacitive touch just like the iphone. If they got their inspiration from neonode, then they would've used resistive touch like neonode did. Also, Samsung is only using neonode as an excuse when they know very well that it is the iphone that they are imitating.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 22:29

32. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


You must like the color red...

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 22:43

37. readingthissh1t (Posts: 303; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


you might be right :x, but im not talking about samsung, i simply stated that the iPhone wasnt the first to use slide to unlock

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 22:51

40. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


And again, that swiping gesture on the neonode phone is not to unlock a sleeping device, but to summon screens like the dial pad, or to make and end calls.

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 22:52 1

41. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


No I don't, but android fanboys like to give me a lot of reds :)

posted on 25 Aug 2011, 23:51

44. maniak (unregistered)


Just like every 'slide to [insert function here]' is a new 'invention', I have invented a new gesture: 'point finger at object to locate it'

That is a different gesture than: 'point finger at object to indicate which direction it is'

I'll be rich!!!1!1

posted on 26 Aug 2011, 00:07 1

45. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


I guess you can't read?
http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/08/dutch-judge-considers-apples-slide-to.html
The picture clearly show that is it to unlock the phone

posted on 26 Aug 2011, 00:22

46. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@ngo2dd. I can read. But i never read that link you provided, so why ask me as if that is the article here on PA. I looked it up on YouTube, and the demo didn't show that neonode used a swipe to unlock gesture. But, evenso, the gesture may be swip to unlock, but there wasn't grapics that came with it. Also, it was on a resistive display, not capacitive like the iphone's. But if the court favors Samsung, I am fine with it. It still doesn't change the fact that Samsung devices got their inspiration from iDevices and not from neonode. They just used neonode as an excuse.

posted on 26 Aug 2011, 00:23

47. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Hurry up and get that patented :)

posted on 26 Aug 2011, 00:27

49. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Apple does not need to get away with something that they already own. Just because android first implemented that pull down notification bar, it does not mean that Apple has no right to that gesture. A lot of iphone apps already utilize that pull down menu. It's just not found on any of iphone native apps.

If these type of copying is normal and acceptable as you said, then I guess you can just ignore Apple's complaints and have nothing to worry about.

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