Don't be surprised if Windows Phone's new YouTube app gets blocked soon
0. phoneArena 09 May 2013, 16:29 posted on
Yesterday, Microsoft released a new version of the YouTube app for Windows Phone 8, and the initial reaction has been pretty positive. The app is a huge upgrade, which wasn't that difficult since the stock YouTube app was just a link to the YouTube mobile site before, but the app is also breaking a couple key terms of service. So, don't be surprised if the app gets blocked soon...
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1. funnyguy (banned) (Posts: 244; Member since: 10 Jan 2013)
What is this Windows phone?
Where can I get one?
33. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
dont bother, Microsoft blackmails and intimidates Android manufacturers so Microsoft earns more money from Android than from Windows Phone.....so NEVER support such a rotten company like Microsoft........another why:
"Because of corruption in Slovakia (by Microsoft) you can not pay taxes without Windows!"
Microsoft corrupted probably every gov in the world
35. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 528; Member since: 07 May 2012)
dude there is such a thing called patents,all manufacturers ahve them and some compnay at some time have to pay them royalties and they have to do likewise as well, nokia,apple samsung, microsoft, lg, google, etc
come out from under your rock man
37. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)
so Microsoft earns money from patents that wouldn't exist if Microsoft isn't the PC OS monopolist ;)
so Microsoft earns more money > Windows Phone
= purely dominance abusing ;)
4. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Damn...well...lemme enjoy it while I got it, and download as much as I can while I can.
34. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
i enjoy it all. i sop it up like a fat man sops up gravy with bread.
5. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
I also won't be downloading any updates to YouTube until I have my brother download it first. Just to be safe. ;)
6. pongkie (Posts: 538; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
it's Google's fault for leaving WP users out. besides those two features can be easily disabled by the developer
8. roldefol (Posts: 4242; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I wondered about the downloading part. With the YouTube website you have to find a secondary and probably illegal program to download content. And much as I hate YouTube ads, if that's what makes content generation affordable I can't argue with them.
9. JesterB (Posts: 17; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
Its interesting that few years ago everyone would complain how apple was trying to corner the market. Now that Google is doing the same thing everyone is praising them for it.... Funny how that works.
16. bachir8k (Posts: 148; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
Google main income is ads, they create hundreds of great free applications just to get revenues from ads, and their main target is large companies.
Apple created the IPhone, it's the most expensive smartphone, and all it's major apps, add-ons, accessories, contents cost too much, because Apple main target is to get profit from everyone (manufactures and consumers).
So Google will do anything to keep its revenues and yes they must block the application (no more lawsuits).
18. Heritor (Posts: 47; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)
Google's Applications aren't free. You pay for it in the form of information that they profit from. So in truth you are heaping praise on this company for saying "hey we will let you use this product if we can void your privacy.".
You actually are paying more using their "free service" because they are acquiring info from you when long ago they would have to pay for it. It's like living in a house for "free" when the owner is doing a Truman show on you.
What is most disturbing is all the data google collects they do not in any form delete that info.
20. kozza3 (Posts: 697; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)
you're probably right, but how much is my personal info actually worth to me? if you could show that i could possibly be loosing $50 by giving Google my data i might just stop using Google services
29. Heritor (Posts: 47; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)
If I knew what sites you visited and could list everything to even the s**t you would be too damned ashamed to admit to. Would you pay me? If your private info isn't worth 50 bucks then can you take all the locks off your doors, put video cameras in every room, and let everyone see what you are doing daily at every hour? Don't worry you can wear a bag on your head to protect your "iD". Mother Jones (magazine) did a google search of Eric Schmidt using the info Google collected on him. Google was so incensed and embarrassed that they threatened the mag before backing down.
Google Services are not worth the Price you pay. All google has proven is if you offer something for "free" aka no money changing hands, people will be willing to pay the price of privacy. Google has proven especially with Orkut and in China that they are willing to hand over the data they collect to governments.
41. bachir8k (Posts: 148; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
mmm, so do you think only Google do that??? Do you think that Hotmail, Outlook, MSN, Yahoo, Facebook, Skype, Viber, Whatsapp, etc... keep your information safe??? and i am not talking about collecting data regarding sites you are visiting the most, or ads you are interesting or so, i am talking about sensual information like pictures, private messages, emails, contacts, phone numbers, current location etc...
Do you have any doubt that those other companies will refuse a request from the Pentagon, CIA, FBI or others???
If you are really afraid about your private data, then provide fake ones, it's easy, just don't use your real name or your mobile, never upload photos or videos, use proxy to hide your IP, and never use your credit cards.
So mainly it's either you accept the fact that there is no more individual privacy in the world, or JUST STOP USING THE INTERNET.
PS: Also stay at home, because surveillance cameras can recognize faces now :p
11. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
"Oh hai, we're Microsoft. We tax every Google Android phone while not giving them any ad revenue, advertise on TV about scroggled, and wonder why they don't like us"
14. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
LMFAO... How much of youtube's advertising revenue goes to people like PSY, Rebecca Black, or the owners of "Grumpy Cat" and "Charlie bit my finger" ??? How much ad revenue did google donate to the family of the "Star Wars Kid", who ended up in a mental institution after his video went viral on youtube ??
Google's whole business model is based on exploiting others, so please don't talk crap.
30. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
You setup a video distribution network which serves terrabytes of video a day and charge $0 for unlimited uploads and views.
12. skymitch89 (Posts: 1299; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
Wouldn't it be Google that is producing the YouTube app? And wouldn't it have to go through Microsoft first in order to get into the Microsoft Store?
22. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2703; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Google has only made a half-baked Search app for WP, and refuses to develop for the platform until it has more market share. So, Microsoft built the YouTube app itself.
24. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
So when i mention "Half-Baked"™ PhoneArena gives me a warning every-time i use this, and it's ok for you and other users to phrase that, unbelievable and biased, pathetic.
Do explain and clarify Micheal Heller™
i've stopped using the word ™Half-Baked™ now, wondering, thinking surely i'le be receiving a warning on the Email©
31. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Yes, PA gave you a warning, but the reason is not the "Half-Baked" you mentioned, the reason is that you always troll on articles, you are unstoppable, naughty, idiotic.
Stop trolling and be a goody guy TROLL.
You've stopped using the word "Half-Baked" now, but if you keep on trolling, you will get "Fully-Baked".
26. akki20892 (Posts: 3901; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
absolutely correct, they made by their self not google. so i don't see any block from google.
13. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Ads are the main reason I've stopped viewing content on youtube. In my opinion, it won't be long before "subscription" services dominate the internet.
15. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Ah, I see. So you can't even be bothered to spend thirty seconds to watch an ad or have a tiny banner (which is closeable) at the bottom in order to get your ABSOLUTELY, ONE HUNDRED FUC.KING PERCENT FREE CONTENT, which costs BILLIONS OF FUC.KING DOLLARS TO HOST?
Entitled pieces of s**t like you are one of the biggest things wrong with the world.
17. Heritor (Posts: 47; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)
So you are saying you come onto this website and click on every banner?
It's actually people like you who are the problem. I would gladly pay for content then watch it with adverts and logos that will eventually cheapen the product. Also The people who post content get very little ad revenue via those adverts. Google makes the money but for a person to make money they have to have an absurd amount of views to generate any real money.
Youtube was better before Google purchased it and began to use it for another advert and data colection repository. Do not even try to play the whole "It cost money to host" as google makes a s**t ton of money just from you viewing the content. Also, much of the content on Youtube is illegal under copyright. I can say that as a fact because I can sit down and make a playlist that is better then anything i can do on Pandora, Slacker, Rdio, Mog, and Spotify. All of those companies must license their content from music industry... Google Hosts it illegally and knows it but makes plenty of money from it.
19. kozza3 (Posts: 697; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)
lol they just started doing paid subscriptions!
27. Heritor (Posts: 47; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)
oh what that is worth talking about? I can buy content on the site for 9.99 but why should i when Netflix has better s**t?
23. ojdidit84 (Posts: 458; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
I got tired of the ads too. All you have to do is install Ad Block Plus in either Chrome or Firefox and no more video ads from just about any site.
21. EspHack (Posts: 70; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
this changes nothing, as soon as they "fix" this app or pull it out of marketplace, there will be thousands of better apps doing the same and better, outside of the marketplace and out of google reach
32. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Too many Windows humpers in comment section...what are you people trying to defend? Illicit violation of terms of service? Guaranteed if you circumvented MS API's and got Live for free they'd come knocking with an army of Lawyers, so what you are saying is it's ok to break the ToS and do whatever you feel like? This is what I am understanding from the hate spewed toward Google for blocking the app(which they haven't done yet) but this story does say that it is in direct violation of YouTube's terms of service.
I laugh at the liar who says YouTube was better before Google bought it, fishing for crap to throw eh? Why lie, YouTube is fine and since it's so damn big it's costing more money to upkeep it, you expect it to remain absolutely free forever? People who get things for free are the most annoy parasites ever, they expect things to remain that way forever even when billions start using it and somehow magically the company hosting pays their tech in fairy dust and unicorn horns.
When people hate they tend to make no damn sense when they try to defend their point and from reading this comment section, looks like there is a whole lot of that not making sense going on in here.
MS knows they have to go through Google to get a YouTube app for their Platform, but as the yields on MS mobile OS are low, Google will release it when there is enough for it to matter to them. They have Android and other OS's to deal with among other things, relax and buy more Windows phones if you want YouTube on there faster.
40. Heritor (Posts: 47; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)
For one you do not get anything from free you google-loving retard. Two, you want to talk about MS violating ToS when Youtube illegally hosting content it is not licensing?
Do a search of the band Tool or do a search of Johnny Cash. You will find ENTIRE ALBUMs on the website illegally hosted by Youtube. Every artist has known for years that all Youtube is nothing but a site where you can get illegaly hosted content (because Youtube DOES NOT PAY LICENSING FEES) for "free" to which Google is making money off it via Ads and Data. If you are going to attack MS for violating ToS then show some integrity and honesty and attack google for hosting content that is Illegal under US Law. Until then your Moral High Horse is nothing more then a "I love google!" bias.
I am sorry i do not know why you defend Google. Do they pay you to be a brand obsessed whore? Is Gmail or their so called "free services" actually enhance your life in any meaningful way? Or are you a poor silly fool who thinks that google will some how make your life better when it has been proven that they will collect your data and hand it over to the government. They already broke US law by censoring and providing user Data of chinese users to the Chinese Government.
36. shuaibhere (Posts: 1986; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Lol..lot of MS trolls...
it'll be fine for them if MS violates the rules...but what if google did this???? Everyone will start to complain that google has violated the rules...
38. drjekel_mrhyde (Posts: 2; Member since: 10 May 2013)
I bet the same people defending Google have ad-block on right now
39. tumchaaditya (Posts: 71; Member since: 21 May 2012)
and what about youtube download apps in play store??
42. Muzhhur (Posts: 260; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)
if I want to see any YouTube videos, I just use IE app