Discussion: Is anyone excited about the Sony Ericsson Xperia arc HD?
1. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
to be honest i dont really think about sony at all anymore, when i think android i think in this order:
the only way sony stand a chance this year is to be the first to roll out with ICS
4. Nickmfnjackson (Posts: 101; Member since: 21 Jan 2010)
SE phones always look nice but there is always one thing that causes my to go to Samsung our HTC. With the x10, it was the of multi touch. With original arc, there was the lack of a dual core processor. With this device we shall see. Out will become available right before quad cores which may, once more, cause me to look over another beautiful although slightly dated SE device.
25. GeekMovement (Posts: 2127; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
what if it lacks a front facing cam?
14. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)
i feel sorry for you if you put Samsung on the top of the list in terms of smartphones (or even phones in general)
not necessarily defending SE, but samsungs tend to be garbage (cool doesnt make a phone good or great)
16. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
whats bad the amoled+ screen which is highly praised by the industry,exynos chip also highly prasied,8mp camera which is also highly praised.plastic samsung and se both use alot so that cant be the reason you rate se higher than samsung....seriously no matter how ''cool'' something is if it is rubbish it would not sell..surely samsung must be making good device that they selling in droves.
18. romeo1 (Posts: 676; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
Samsung has good hardware(better than the ones se have used so far) and ofcourse the sell more then se but in terms of built quality/call quality/camera se is ahead of samsung.
And in my opinion ahead in design on all phone brands.
21. Dark4o90 (Posts: 205; Member since: 20 Feb 2011)
built quality NO, call quality/camera depends on the device and S2 really has pretty good camera
38. romeo1 (Posts: 676; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
Built quality of sony is better for sure samsung devices crack and the s2 screen breaks when it falls
and im not saying that the s2 doesn't have a good camera(for a phone) but its just not as good as the one from the arc(s)
22. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
SE and Samsung both use plastic primarily so dont know how you can rate SE higher build quality,(plastic does not mean bad build quality by the way) cant say on call quality cause i have not used any of SE 2011 devices but can say call quality on my gs2 is very nice. camera again i have not used any of SE 2011 devices but from many only smartphone camera shootouts the s2 has always topped the SE arc....design is subjective but i will be honest and say i personally think the arc looks better than the s2.
29. RamyRamz69 (Posts: 390; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)
Urm not really, Xperia Arc won the EISA Camera Phone of the year...I won't take your judging because those people are professional when it comes to their job. Anyway, call quality on my S.E.X Arc is more than excellent. Also, it's not filled with OEM garbage like Samsung phones; that's a reason a single core phone is going to get ICS.
And when you compare Samsung to Sony, don't just compare the top end phones for f**** sake. Compare ALL the phones. I can tell you that the mid and low end SE devices are FAR better than the ones in Samsung.
40. romeo1 (Posts: 676; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
You are right about the EISA Award and about when you compare companies ;)
And to be honest when i used the s2 i had to turn off the phone a couple(5a6) a time cause it got stuck(i used it for a week)
39. romeo1 (Posts: 676; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
built quality doesn't necessary mean the quality of the materials used but also how its built.
and the s2 feels cheap and weak as the arc(s) feel solid.
the call quality has always been better on a sony or nokia and from how i tested the 2 (arc s and s2)
the arc s call quality is better.
also for the camera and the EISA award is done by pros like RamyRamz69 said where as the most of the websites have favorites and aren't pros.
if you make the photos yourself you should see the difference between them.
i tested them both and i know a thing or 2 about the settings for making pictures in different environments(don't know how you call it in english)
and the arc was better.
still the s2 isn't a bad phone it just depends on the enduser what he or she wants.
s2 is a bit faster but you don't notice it on the arc that its slow or somthing it works very fast 2 but because of the hardware the s2 is faster.
27. Leodrade (Posts: 87; Member since: 26 Aug 2011)
Really comparing SE to Samsung it's just unfair, Samsung sold 30 million phones on Q4 while SE must have sold like 1 or 2 million, not to mention the fact that SE doesn't even have a proper high-end phone in their Xperia line
41. romeo1 (Posts: 676; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
the only thing that would be "unfair" is that if you compare the speed of the phones because the s2 of samsung has a dualcore but in terms of call/camera/built/screen/speaker quality. it doesn't matter.
26. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
the sad news here is that if this comes with internal memory of 8/16 gb then it will be virtually like the Arc which had only 320mb free ,and sealed battery ,wtf? this is not iCrap , and according to me the only thing that keeps this phone from wiped off is the beauty , sorry Sony and Sony fans ,this is kind of like when the iPhone 4s hit the market ..only thing you will be buying this is for the second rated qualcomm msm 8660 and camera
31. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
Me either, if the rumored spec is true then I'm turning my head elsewhere or wait for sony (only) first smartphone to hit the market. the Micro Sim, No SD support and non removable battery is more than enough to turn me off to this device. . .
42. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
am sorry but i have held the arc in store and it feels the same as a s2..both have thin back and no creaks on either...the reason why the arc is getting ics is because it was se flagship of 2011,they are not updating any of there 2010 models(you were obviously talking about the fact that samsungs 2010 flagship was not getting ics but neither is se 2010 flagship)...call quality has been excellent on my s2 and i have no doubt that call quality on the arc is probably excellent too...screen no way,first of all the blacks cant be beaten and the viewing angles on the arc is noway as good as the s2 screen...camera if it one the award then thats good but the s2 camera is obviously makes better pic that the tech industry likes and i wont disagree with @steve litchfiled who is a mega camera buff and enthusiast says the overall camera performance in all lights and use of flash is better on the s2....again they are both exellent phone and are on par apart from memory,ram,cpu which are important to the overall performance of the phone also when both phones came out similar time and similar price and the s2 has held much much more value over time than the arc.
33. MotorolaandSamsungFTW (Posts: 10; Member since: 05 Jan 2012)
heck no this is the order:
35. KaloqnYo (Posts: 22; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
You are INSANE, Nokia before SE ! SE is using processors with a new architecture ( Snapdragon S2 ) not like nokia 1GHz but old architecture like ARM 11 ! And mostly every Nokia device except N8 has fixed-focus camera and on top of it Symbian Belle is a COPY of Android with the pull-down menu and all the widgets etc.
3. phungn (Posts: 26; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)
Dual core is pretty meh now. The camera and design catch my eye but not much else. I personally want a note now for its unique size but with quad core phones rumored to coming out in not even sure about that.
5. hunted (Posts: 403; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)
SE is going at the rite pace, if sammy or htc release dual core that doesn't mean every other should come with dual cores. There might not be any availability for dual cores but for market pace yes they have to run with what others have
6. kenemu (Posts: 19; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)
Iam not slave or fanboy to any brand, right sony is late in the game of h8gh-end compition, but i still think sony is still a big name and arc hd looks very promising.
7. protozeloz (Posts: 5394; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
SE is a good company, wish it where more popular some times
8. erabe13 (Posts: 6; Member since: 02 Sep 2011)
a former sony ericsson user... in terms of design, they got it. in terms of specifications, they were left behind. In terms of price, they are in the competition.
Hope this time, price and features will go with the design. Come on Sony, you still on the competition. Be back now!!!
9. andro. (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
We sell a huge load of sony arc s in my store so a good amount of customers are perhaps not too put out with without its dual core or not. That saying the sony arc s is extremely well priced and a very good phone. Now at the same time there are a fair amount of customers who do want to spend the little bit extra for dual cores like the galaxy s2 so its all relative.
All in all,sony has really upped their game this year and if arc hd or whatever the next generation of top xperia android are called improve on last years sony line up then Sony has another good year of ahead of it.
10. therocker (Posts: 16; Member since: 03 Jul 2011)
NaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH....................nyc designs bt featureless nd costly without any reason _\m/
11. WirelessCon (Posts: 309; Member since: 11 May 2010)
I remember a time when "Sony" meant quality and "Samsung" was a desperate maker of cheap-ass lower quality electronics.
Japanese tradition might be holding Sony back. It wouldn't take much for them to become a major player in the phone business.
13. Giggity (Posts: 147; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
Looks nice, just not nice enough to abandon my Arc just yet.
15. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
seriously 2.3? any android flagship phone/tablet released in 2012 should come with ICS and not an OS that was released in 2010.
17. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
I just have one question
Is this the last phone branded as Sony Ericsson?
Because Sony just bought Ericsson recently re-branding it Sony simple.
32. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
It just might actually be the last. . .
19. Venkat_5.uni (Posts: 12; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
The one thing that Sony is unique with is their design concepts....unless they balance cost with the hardware used or something like that.....it's difficult to think of Sony's next phone....
20. jibraihimi (Posts: 742; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
If Sony price it reasonably then this phone looks really very exciting with it's 12mp camera...... If cam performance is on par with N8 camera, then this will surely be the device to get this yr. Dual core or Quad core will not make much of difference if Sony is able to give good real life performance with this phone........ And above all they should price it right; it should be placed below the Quad core devices to be launched this yr. If they price it same as the quad core devices to be launched this yr. then Sony is sure to loose more market to Quad core phones...........
23. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
I love the design. I love Sony. I would love this phone. Had this phone come out before the Razr this year I would have been all over it.
24. RamyRamz69 (Posts: 390; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)
Absolutely loving this phone and can't wait for it. I can't bare all the Quad Core crap I hear. People, the SGS2 ran with a 1.2 dual ghz processor and had absolutely no lagg...this thing will run with 1.5 dual ghz processor AND will get ICS which has better multi-tasking. What do you want more? the simple, clean and beautiful UI is more than enough for me. + the camera ofcourse ;)
28. ffaarrooqq (Posts: 65; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Not Interested in Sony Ericsson anymore...
Poor battery & Poor Hardware & High Prices.
And there is No after sale Service.
34. Rishabh (Posts: 9; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
As far as i know ....while arc HD may be SE's flagship model , first with a dual core by SE...it will be competing with the likes of quadcore processors..so it will be a dated a smartphone experience with the arc HD....if SE jumps directly to a quadcore offering with ICS accompanoed with really good specs, it may compete with the likes of samsung & htc
37. RamyRamz69 (Posts: 390; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)
Why the hell would someone buy a Quadcore phone? Do you want to play Skyrim on your phone? My laptop is an Intel Core2Duo running on 2.2 GHZ and can run games like World of Warcraft perfectly. If somehow they manage to release Battlefield/Uncharted for Android which would cost a lot and I am sure can be played on a dual core device, I would rather not play it in a battery drainer device that will have a 4'3 inch tiny screen. No, they can't extend the battery life. Why? Laws of Physics cannot be broken to make a 5000 MAH battery for a smartphone.
36. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
I could care less bout Sony amymore. Boring phone and it only have Gingerbread not ICS.