Did an app failure cost Romney the presidency?
0. phoneArena 12 Nov 2012, 08:48 posted on
Problems with a poll-monitoring system called Project Orca might have been partially responsible for the difference between the Romney campaign's high expectations for election day, and the actual results which led to an easier than expected victory for President Obama...
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1. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Sounds like team Romney needs remedial training in app development....
13. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
No, their problem was that it was an iOS app and they read it 'the wrong way'.
23. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)
That is awesome such a small app could destroy someone's dreams, hopes, and goals.
PS: I might use this app on most-all of my enemies
51. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Hey, why should we open up old wounds... What if we try "Working together for the development of our Country". Division will surely make us fall, and the world is looking and laughing at us... There's an App for that!?!
Reporting from Germany... Topcat488
2. ibap (Posts: 762; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)
More finger-pointing and refusal to face facts and data.
7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It was over with when team Romney started attacking pollsters. Maybe one or two polls could be off. But 40+ in the last week before the election?
26. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1218; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I believe both Romney and Obama have been doing a lot of finger pointing. If you're going to call one out, you better call the other one out.
27. bubbadoes (Posts: 1051; Member since: 03 May 2012)
The real Dr. Phil is a Democrat! Get your own handle!!!!!
32. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1218; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Since when can you be a Democrat, Republican, or Independent and not be able to call out politicians of any party on what they've done wrong?
I know plenty of Democrats who were upset by President Obama's first term. In fact, if you look at the popular vote, Obama was down about 8 million votes this time around. I wouldn't say these votes went to the other side, as Romney was also down about 2 million votes from McCain's 2008 presidential run. I have talked with a good handful of Democrats who were upset over Obama's term in office and told me they were either going to go third party or not vote at all.
Same goes for Republicans. I know a good handful of Republicans that were upset over Romney being chosen as their nominee and decided to vote third party this time around.
The point is that just because you may identify yourself with a certain party or consider yourself an independent, that does not mean you are not allowed to call out the politicians on what they've done wrong.
48. QWIKSTRIKE (Posts: 1147; Member since: 09 Mar 2010)
Romney lost because he was an insincere liar. Saying one thing this morning and another by night fall. Say what you mean and mean what you say.
The Republican party needs and over haul it is being torn a apart by the tea party. Both parties need to get rid of public interest groups, and do whats right for America instead of whats right for people with large sums of cash who are pulling stings behind the scenes like the Koch brothers, or by Grover Norquist.
55. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1038; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! Im so glad someone else said it lol. The Republican party have kept their stubborn ways since the 50s and its not working. Lets see what they're views are:
1. they dont relate to women and their issues (especially dealing with single mothers and abortion)
2. They dont care for the poverty-stricken areas (primarily those within the african-american community)
3. They are against homosexuality (Im not gay, but you have to relate to their rights no matter how wrong you think it is)
Need i say more?? You cant be that conservative to ignore what this country's issues are. This isnt 1955 where the only people that have a voice are white people!! those days are gone and republicans needs to start over
72. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 886; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
I loved seeing Romney's comments in the what's hot section of Google+. 90% of the comments were people fact checking him and calling him a liar (guilty of that myself on multiple posts).
Maybe I'll see if Fox News posts in G+ and have some fun with that.
3. SF_Steven (Posts: 12; Member since: 18 Apr 2012)
IMHO, one of the biggest failures of this program was inaccurate communication from the people in charge: ORCA wasn't an "app" in the "download an app to your phone" sense, it was a "web app" in the "navigate to a website, log on, and go from there". By insisting on using a misleading buzzword instead of being explicit about what was going on, people were confused.
Not to diminish the tech savvy of the volunteers but when was the last time you heard about an "app" that WASN'T something you downloaded directly to your phone?
12. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
No, Romney was winning until Sandy hit. Somehow he got more votes even though a democrat stronghold with millions of democrat voters was left without power and water. uh huh..
polls said that 40% of peeps that voted for Obozo said his "sandy efforts" (aka photo op) pushed them towards him. he didnt do jack squat other than walk around with Chris Christy.. that jackass cost his own party the election.
People are frikkin stupid.
17. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
Well, Obama was lucky that Chris Christie didn't eat him.
I'm not an Obama fan but, it was genius the way he "spun" the hurricane to his advantage.
29. bubbadoes (Posts: 1051; Member since: 03 May 2012)
Romney never had a snowballs chance in ,,,,,the only polls showed him winning was foxnews and american crossroads,,,,,not was only the election a LANDSLIDE victory but winning All the battlegrounds states to include almost winning a red state of nc is really no point in arguing...this subject can go on and on but 2016 is far far away so suck it up and move on,,i thought this was phonearena not politico im waiting on the droid dna and you all are still crying about romney and his lost
31. DROIDX0430 (Posts: 468; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
Not only do you not know phones...you dont know polictics or facts either. November 6 2012. reelected.. Landslide.. All battlegrounds states won...history again remixfa
Went under wrong post number 12
38. willard12 (Posts: 1707; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
What about cutting red tape at FEMA? You know, that agency Romney wanted to get rid of. And when asked about it, didn't have the courage to answer the repeated questions. But OK, we'll go with your theory that lack of power because of a hurricane is "obozo's" fault. Can you add two wars on a credit card (1 on false Intel), a $500 billion surplus to $10.2 trillion deficit, the worst economic collapse since 1929, terrorist attacks on US soil (in spite of a CIA memo called "al queda determined to attack in US")? Let's forget about the fact that more jobs have been added in the 6 months than the previous 12 years. I guess there is no improvement and tax cuts for the 1% was the answer. It worked so well in 2002. Or, maybe Romney lost because he demeaned the 47% ( which is mostly people who pay payroll taxes, social security recepients, military in combat such as myself, and college students). Or maybe he Obozo won because the app was bad, the dept. of labor cooked the books, a hurricane, the liberal media, and Karl Rove was right. But remember, Obozo, won the 10 highest educated states, Romney won 9/10 least educated states......what a coincidence.
54. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
HEY-- Willard12--Just like in Baseball, all the runners that were on base before the relief pitcher came on, them runs still goes in the starting pitchers column. That means, all the trillions spent to end the "WARS" that Bush started. Goes under the deficit of The War Starter... ie Still Trillions under the Bush Deficit run-up...
59. jroc74 (Posts: 6014; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
E X A C T L Y!!!!
But I guess its Obama's fault for the war that started after 9-11....
You know what makes this even more amazing comparing Bush and Obama...didnt Clinton have a major war happen on his watch? How was jobs and the economy while Clinton was in office? Gas was real low while Clinton was in office.
Makes you wonder now, and ppl should really step back and look at the bigger picture and stop blindly hating...
But for some wild reason....people never wanna talk about Clinton.
42. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
remixfa - there is fairly objective polling proof that Sandy did not 'interrupt' Mittens' 'momentum'. You may not want to hear this, but Mittens' was starting to slide in a majority of polls that were conducted in the swing states before Sandy hit. Since the POTUS is elected by electoral votes, swing states are all that matters (ask W. about that - 2000, eh).
Blaming Sandy or polling bias or whatever for Mittens' loss ignores the fundamental fact that the Rs need to broaden their appeal. The point when Mittens became viable was when he was able to turn to the center in the first debate and Barry didn't challenge him. He went into the debate with a campaign that was on the verge of being written off. By his crew of fellow 1%-er donors, no less.
52. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Well, remixfa... Why didn't Rmoney go take a look in that disaster area... Your right maybe he was winning until Sandy hit... Problem was , he didn't play "Politics", the very reason he was in the race to play... It sure would of made him look "Presidential"... @ Remixfa #12
60. jroc74 (Posts: 6014; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Exactly. Was anybody holding a gun to Romney's head and saying dont go visit the victims of Sandy?
Its amazing how some ppl think...
73. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 886; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
How is this different from Romney's photo ops? Oh wait they were legitimate and not staged..
Face it. Romney was a clown who flopped on all the issues, failed to give details on his plans and flat out lied.
15. aahmed215 (Posts: 165; Member since: 18 Jun 2012)
Romney didn't lose because of an app. He lost because people don't want another President from a backwards political party like the Republican Party.
24. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Watching Romney run for election is like watching Donald Trump running for election. All they do is run their mouth trying to make the other look bad, while staying inconsistent with their goals and plans. The first news I saw about him before the election started got me thinking what an a-hole this guy is and I can't believe how many support he gathered with the way he is. The future looks bad if this the kind of presidential candidate that's going to be running for elections. We should be picking between quality individuals, people like Romney is certainly not one of them.
30. DOGIEFRESH (Posts: 302; Member since: 15 Jul 2009)
He lost cuz America don't want another Bush era, good an real Republicans like Ronald Reagan doesn't exist anymore...!!!