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Did Nokia fake the still photos too?

0. phoneArena 06 Sep 2012, 05:14 posted on

Yesterday, our eagle-eyed commenters were among the first to notice a weird reflection on what everyone was led into thinking to be sample video footage of the Nokia Lumia 920…

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posted on 06 Sep 2012, 08:48 2

61. SleepingOz (unregistered)


They got trolled by Nokia!

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:52 6

21. rainyday (Posts: 44; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


bitch please...

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:11 2

26. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


They wanted to showcase OIS mode on the 920, which they didn't.
They may have showed OIS but it wasn't on the 920. Why should people buy the 920? Why not get the same product that did showcase OIS? Are the not the same? Is OIS on the 920 butchered down or something?

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 07:30 2

48. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


Well if their goal is to show the OIS technology of the phone, then why can't they just take the pictures and videos using the phone itself? It's just as simple as that.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:34 2

13. muhsen (Posts: 281; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)


this is too much. the CONSPIRACY theory went too far by this.just go to Gizmodo.com and everyone will see the definitive proof that the lumia 920 is awesome.
http://gizmodo.com/5940697/definite-proof-that-the -lumia-920s-pureview-camera-is-awesome#.UEhmEK_JlY E.twitter

why don't we analyze the pixels of the photos to see if they r taken from outer space.
the cam of lumia 920 is the best(except for the 808 of course), now move on and enough of this crap

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:02 6

22. poddey (Posts: 77; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)


Don't be so quick to dismiss something just because you don't like what you are hearing. The photo in the link you provided was taken with flash off on all 3 phones apparently but while the other two phones didn't use flash at all, the 920 turned on its flash to focus but I believe it was also sampling photos in the process which is why the final image is so bright, particular in the middle, which is just how a photo would look when using LED flash.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:16 2

29. p0rkguy (Posts: 685; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


The die hard Nokia fanboys are strong.
The moment I saw light I said the same thing the guy said in the video.

"HDR works by combining a few images into one, usually two or three photos will be used and sometimes more. It works by combining images with different exposure values, and then uses the correctly exposed portion will be combined into the final image."
This is the same concept as Apple's "retina display", another marketing term for Nokia.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:29 2

34. poddey (Posts: 77; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)


Yeah, strong or blind - see what I did there? :)

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 08:54 1

62. SleepingOz (unregistered)


Strong in number, blinded by their fanboyism and in denial of the fact that Nokia cheated them. lololol

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:35 3

14. koolkat-uk (Posts: 10; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


Phonearena needs to shut up! i checked the camera out yesterday at the conference. Its a revolution in technology. the motion blurring is amazing. we were comparing it with the iPhone 4S and Galaxy S3, the 920 obliterated both even looked better than my nikon dslr in low light.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:16 4

30. rainyday (Posts: 44; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


are you sure you wasn't in a van with DSLR in your hands?

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:36 4

15. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


I can imagine the Nokia PureView engineers must be supremely pissed off at the marketing guru who decided this video should be pulbished at all...and without a discalimer to boot!

The technology itself is stunning...real time examples after the announcement reveal a tech that has a significant and measurable benefit to real life situations and for average users. It's a big deal...but again...the Nokia marketing team screwed it up. I hope someone at a very senior level in that department gets canned because this is just another example of great product with crappy marketing.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:38 1

16. kamil (Posts: 118; Member since: 07 Feb 2012)


oh come on man give nokia some slack most people use their camera phones to take picture of themselves and other stuff not so much on the city lights well maybe but damn man if i got the phone i wont be looking at the background so much i'll be looking at my face with a whole of zits nokia all the way and bring sony along these 2 companies makes some of the best camera phones in town so respect

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:46 5

17. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


So the main thing in the presentation was the pureview camera and they show me photos of another device? I'm confused.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 05:46 3

18. 12Danny123 (Posts: 87; Member since: 18 Aug 2012)


I swear to god. Phonearena needs to shut up. For once. Those pictures are real. Stop being pathetic phonearena. There is solid proof it's real photos

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:26 1

32. snowgator (Posts: 3599; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Nokia will respond, Danny, and just like the video I expect them to be upfront.

This whole announcement seemed like it was snake-bit. From all the tech errors with the screen, the disappointment there wasn't more about WP 8, Ballmer mispronouncing Nokia's name about three times (Nawk-eea??), and then having to eat a little pride about the "girl on the bike" video, I am sure this is an event they wish they could have back.

Lost in the hoopla were some really good devices with what may be the best camera tech, an exciting and fun new version of a seamless OS, and just a dozen other strengths to help it along.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:37 1

39. poddey (Posts: 77; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)


Actually I think it is pronounced like that, with the first syllable sounding more like "knock" than "no"... which means Ballmer does the better job of pronouncing the name than Elop, the company's own CEO.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:03 1

23. shadez10 (Posts: 427; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


This is why i dont really trust 100% phonearena... There are some bias things going on here...

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:06 1

24. bayhuy (Posts: 320; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


Poor Nokia....

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:08 2

25. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


i think they eat fake jellybean too

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:15 3

28. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


they should have put a big disclaimer on the video. That really disappoints me. I guess ill wait for the commercial side by side comparisons.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:27 1

33. snowgator (Posts: 3599; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


There will be no faking them. I expect the 920 to hold up, but we will see.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 08:11 2

53. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


I hope it does. That video got me really excited for the tech. Finding out that it was fake is a big balloon popper for me... boo.

I really liked the still shots of the people in the city. I was thinking of 1001 uses for that. phphph

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:55

42. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


It certainly was a biffed presentation. I too am now going to wait until non-staged reviews are done with real-world shipping samples. Combined with no ship date or sell price, is there any surprise Nokia's share price shed 16% after the event?

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:29 4

35. xsymbian (Posts: 1; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


Elop failed again with these new Windows 8 phones. How can a CEO lie so much? Cosumers need real samples of videos/photos, not fake professional eye-candy edited videos/photos . Nokia Board please fire Stephen Elop . Your company will be bankrupt in no-time. You need a new CEO that brings what people want: Android on Nokia phones. You need to invest in multiple platfoms. People associate Windows brand with FAILURE, because of its multiple problems (black screens, etc.) and hard-to use interfaces. Bring the future today.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 06:35 1

37. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 259; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


Facts: 1) the 920 may still be a nice phone 2) the photos were fake if you thought they were taken from the 920 3) Stop it with this bias fable, because Nokia apologized and posted real 920 footagehttp://youtu.be/6HSbhyaH0vw?hd=1

4) I don't want to be a fan of anything, makes you blind.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 07:11 1

44. icekendee (Posts: 3; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


I miss my old nokia n82 I installed quake 2 on it and it played great.

I'm loving my new galaxy s3 international version

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 07:20 1

45. shameful (Posts: 1; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


Ofcourse they did fake them:https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/578446_10151087026494473_802634455_n.jpg

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 07:45 2

50. mobilefuture (Posts: 215; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


oh everybody shutup! why do you guys have to complain about the marketing scheme? according to the blogger's article, the last pic is indeed a pic taken from the lumia 920, and if that's the result of the prototype then you guys have nothing to complain about!

http://sefsar.com/nokia-faked-the-still-photos-too

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 08:04 1

51. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


When Apple announced the iPhone 4S, they were straight with the claims for the camera of the 4S - they published actual photos and videos taken with a 4S. Nokia couldn't meet the same standard and is getting slammed for it. President Harry Truman had a saying (I am paraphrasing slightly) - can't stand the heat? Then get out of the kitchen!

Nokia needs to decide whether it wants to play in today's smartphone business. If the answer is yes, then they need to bring their A game.

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