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Design expert got $75,000 from Apple "so far" for his testimony

0. phoneArena 07 Aug 2012, 04:16 posted on

We’re already in the second week of the massive Apple vs Samsung legal battle, and lastly Apple brought a design expert to give his educated opinion…

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posted on 07 Aug 2012, 04:42 3

15. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14191; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Expert and nonbiased.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 07:20 7

39. tedkord (Posts: 12228; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I'd say he's at least $75,000 biased. For six figures (which this guy will ultimately get paid), I'll get on the stand and day Apple invented water.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 04:44 2

18. Savage (unregistered)


Exactly! Anyone can say the first Galaxy looked a lot like iPhone. But why should Apple have to pay him? This makes Apple look guilty.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 04:41 9

14. B3BLW29 (Posts: 238; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


75k is not even loose change for Apple... :P
Based on his testimony any thing that is rectangular has infringed upon Apple's patent..
Looks like pops was high on Moonshine :D

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 04:43 2

16. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14191; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


PA, I don't find the tone of this article to be neutral at all. I'd say it seems to me that the author is trying to subtly throw Apple under the bus because of the witness.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 05:06 6

22. roscuthiii (Posts: 2226; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


But you had no problem with the previous article in which the expert witness made his copying claims?
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. If the guy's testimony is pertinent enough to be newsworthy, then who and what he is is also just as pertinent. You just didn't like the article because this information could turn out to be a detriment to Apple's case.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 06:11 1

30. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


hahahahah Good one, I think Victor would be happy to see someone didn't call him and apple fanboy

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 06:24 5

33. willard12 (Posts: 1722; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


Maybe the last article is the real reason you don't like this article.

"Mxyzptlk: Nothing more than a biased claim. You can't prove anything about the witness being paid."

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 06:48 4

36. matrix_neo (Posts: 334; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


Im about to write also his previous comment but you write it first but it's ok:-). Its very big embarrassement for him. Almost all ísheep here commenting without thinking it first.

SHAME ON YOU!!! Mxyzptlk

posted on 08 Aug 2012, 23:55

106. zhypher_23 (Posts: 195; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)


Can't accept the truth? These are facts.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 04:54 2

19. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Wow, I'm actually surprised. Literally, I never though Apple would pay its witnesses to testify, especially a designer. I know Samsung is guilty for making their Galaxy S look similar to the iPhone, but paying someone to testify makes it look like a bribe. But, question, is this really a bribe? Or is it just a "Thanks for defending our case" bonus?

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 07:24

40. tedkord (Posts: 12228; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Most expert witnesses in these types of trials are paid to testify. I'd imagine Samsung will have some paid witnesses, too. It does leave a taint on their testimony, but these types of folks aren't going to donate their time.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 05:01 6

20. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)


By this guy's logic, he said that anything that's a black rectangle is infringing on Apple's design. And Apple paying him $75,000 so far and continuing to pay him for his opinion, sounds really shady.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 05:03 1

21. d_striders (Posts: 7; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)


he is an expert professor, but in which field? what is the exact quality that makes him an expert witness? a professor whos website is still under construction doesnt look like much of an expert

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 05:08 1

23. OakleyDoakely (Posts: 3; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)


For a company that sold:
17 million iPads at 400-800 dollars,
37 million iPhones (3Gs -> 4s) at 200-900+ dollars
about 4-5 million macbooks going at 1k-5k
purchases of apple software programs/services ie (iCloud, Final Cut, Logic Studio)
Plus 30% of the profits made from their iTunes stores apps/books/music.

I think it's safe to say $75,000 is probably chump change to Apple.

I would say that this professor is probably going to get paid a lot more after this trial than $75,000.

I have a strong doubt that apple is really feeling the alleged $2.5 billion missing in sales due to the Samsung Galaxy devices.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 05:36 2

26. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Another day another ridiculous fact about serious wrong doings from dodegy apple again. The court case is getting pretty widespread with the general public through word of mouth and I've seen more and more customers even comment that apple'just try to sue everyone'. The result is people turning away from them and android market share massively rising everywhere except perhaps the US,these stupid court cases are doing apple more harm than good.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 08:13 1

42. Aeires (unregistered)


Wonder how many people are seeing Apple gets 77% of mobile profits, at their expense? It's going to end eventually, probably with the bottom dropping out as people get fed up with the BS Apple keeps spewing.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 09:00 1

48. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Being unctuous again?

Get ready for ZTE or Huawei to copy Samsung before people stop buying the iPhone in droves.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 09:28 3

50. Aeires (unregistered)


Ardent, I forgot to say thanks on your last comment to me, I was laughing for days. Unctuous, what a hoot. Especially when it came from someone as pompous as yourself.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 10:35

57. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


This isn't a wrongdoing as paying an expert witness is standard procedure. Samsung will have paid witnesses as well.

I like how you throw in bogus "personal experiences" which can't be verified.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 15:08 1

72. tedkord (Posts: 12228; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


This coming from the guy who has, "played around with a Galaxy S3, and it was laggy.“

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 16:10

83. doublehammer (Posts: 75; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)


can you verify anything you say?

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 21:09

94. aikonix (Posts: 60; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)


Taco.... standard procedures.... cmon dude, if you call out a witness, and the court orders you to be there, thats NOT BEING PAID. Apple did NOT have to pay that guy, and let alone, did NOT have to pay him $75 grand. $75 grand is a LOT of money and as easily as it is for ANYONE to say what he said... Do you not get it?? Your simple fight through-out this whole comment page was "its standard procedure..." .. "its standard...." "yada yada" NO.. its NOT Taco, get that through ur no brain of yours!! Court ordered appearances require to be shown or must has a VERY good reason on why your not showing up and that reason is to the court not the defendant/plaintiff.

$75 grand my a$$.... wish i could use that

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 05:57 2

28. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


I am going to say this: it didn't take a genius to see where the market was headed in terms of cell phone design -- especially if your job was to keep up on design trends. With the rising popularity of Windows Phones at the time, the icon based BlackBerry, touchscreen based Nokia phones, and the design of GPS/TV Screens/PDAs did Apple somehow think it was the only company going to use the simple touch screen in middle/black bezel/silver border look with a cell phone? Are we to believe that LG and Apple came up with nearly the same exact design but Samsung couldn't? That other products that came out before that look remarkably similar to the iPhone couldn't be used as design precursors?

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 08:58 2

47. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


You keep forgetting, Apple's design came out with world's best mobile OS. Prada's OS was garbage, which goes to show you can't judge a book by it's covers or a cell phone by it's shell.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 09:39 4

51. Aeires (unregistered)


Best OS by whose estimation? Yours?

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 10:36 1

58. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Samsung's CEO said the iPhone is like heaven and his phones like earth.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 12:43 2

67. willard12 (Posts: 1722; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


Apple's CEO said we've been shameless about stealing good ideas.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 15:12 1

74. tedkord (Posts: 12228; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


He said that about a WinMo phone from 2008, the Omnia.

posted on 07 Aug 2012, 16:09 1

82. doublehammer (Posts: 75; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)


That was a horrid phone.

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