Could Huawei become the next HTC?
0. phoneArena 29 Feb 2012, 10:59 posted on
Huawei appears to be building up the potential to transform from being this obscure Asian company (as it is currently perceived by the average U.S. consumer) to a brand name that is well established on the U.S. market...
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1. biophone (Posts: 1900; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Well considering that Hauwei's new offerings are better then HTC's new offerings its looking good for them. They even keep the UI pretty much stock. I love it.
2. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
And besides, Huawei's high-end devices are really high-end. They treat their flagships differently from their entry level devices.
5. biophone (Posts: 1900; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
I just hope their devices come to verizon. Best service on a great phone.
42. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you mean they dont stuff the same chipset into every phone with minor clock and screen differences so one is "high end" and the other isnt? lol
If they can have a decently high profile flagship phone, they will be on the way to the big time. Before the SGS line, I would have never picked up a samsung phone as they have been making junk for years. Before android I would have never picked up another HTC because their windows phones were junk. LG used to be the best phones on VZW other than Blackberrys. Every company can rise or fall.
25. biophone (Posts: 1900; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
The new ascend is the fastest smartphone every made.
26. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
How is it the fastest phone? What do you have to back it up beside it is quad-core? Quad core does not mean it is better then a dual core. Intel vs AMD is all I have to say.
28. biophone (Posts: 1900; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Can you just shut up already you guys are annoying and wrong.
30. KParks23 (Posts: 558; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
If u didn't feel the need to dogg HTC out and use words like crapdragon In every single article this conversation would of been over days ago... So now ur basing ur facts on a company launch video Lmao..cuz of course the company was going to make a video saying and our new phone is the 5th fastest phone out lol of course there gonna say there's is the best did u get dropped when u were a baby or sumn.. this guys facts are another users post and a company promo video lol.. yes this ascend is going to be a awesome phone and it looks good also can expect great battery life... And its not nice to tell ppl to shut up when in everypost in every article u say the same thing then we just reply to u proving u wrong..
32. biophone (Posts: 1900; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Everybody sing along:
O when the trolls, O when the trolls, O when the trolls come marching in. O how I don't went to be a mindless idiot like them O when the trolls come marching in.
-Yea I am really hard on HTC saying I like their newest phone and interface
-I didn't say crapdragon once in this article.
-Huawei couldn't say that if it was wrong. They had to have a basis for saying their phone was the fastest. If it is wrong well then thats false advertising and is illegal. However its not Its GPU is superior to that of the tegra 3 being that it has 16 cores.
- You haven't proved me wrong once. The S4 isn't a a15 cortex equivalent its in-between an a9 cortex and a15 I round down an call it an a9 cortex because if its not on par with the superior cortex how can you call it an equivalent to that. Its been documented qualcomm fixes their phone for benchmarks as well look at the skyrocket. So benchmark scores from qualcomm mean nothing to me.
43. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
The S4 is only about 30% better than CURRENT 45nm A9 chips. Considering the exynos 4212 chip is supposed to be around 50% faster than the 4210 chip with just the die shrank to 32nm, that would put it above the S4... and thats not even going into the exynos A15 based chips which are going to be even more powerful.
Why do I CALL it a crapdragon (my word that caught on because its TRUE)? Because the S2 and S3 are CRAP. The S4 is crap for now until they release it with the Adreno 320GPU. Its not really that hard to understand. I dont know what all the fighting is about. When the 2012 chips get released and the S4 finds its regular spot at the bottom of the pile again, you will stop chirping. But hey, if it warms your heart that the S4 can just barely edge out the exynos 4210 chip from 2011, then u hold on to that. Problem is the 4210 chip is on its way to retirement.
BTW, HTC doesnt make crapdragon, Qualcomm does. Huwai makes their chips in house like samsung does.
34. biophone (Posts: 1900; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Ok remixfa enlightened us on the s4 benchmarks where on a blank reference device. Thanks remixfa.
35. phones522 (Posts: 94; Member since: 27 Jan 2010)
so what an ad says its the fastest phone have you tested it personally and seen its benchmarks
38. biophone (Posts: 1900; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
It has the best specs. Best gpu by far and the cpu looks good too.
50. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the same can be asked of all these people that are walking around chanting the praises of the S4. Its not on a commercial device yet either.
55. KParks23 (Posts: 558; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
Where not walking around chanting praise.. What u saying is why we backing the s4 up u and ur boy runnin around calling it garbage and we don't know how good it is .
3. itiswhatitis (Posts: 423; Member since: 23 Jan 2012)
If they can make their products long-lasting and as-good-as-new software then yeah they have a very good chance.
4. theBankRobber (Posts: 674; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
I personally feel that companies should just stick to the name of the device itself. Look how popular the iPhone name has become because on every carrier around the world, its called Apple iPhone. Samsung was doing OK with the Galaxy S II until it went on the US carriers. I hate how it is called different names, I guess that's the issues with having multiple carriers and letting them say what they want in and on the phone.
7. theBankRobber (Posts: 674; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
Tried to edit my post to something else, I kinda jumped in reading and pa's edit system said I couldn't edit my post for some s**t reason.
6. A.aoudi (Posts: 125; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
Huawei is Huawei and it will stay Huawei because it should .HTC is HTC because it makes a lot of SENSE.
11. SleepingOz (unregistered)
It's your comment that does not make any sense actually.
15. andro. (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Your comment makes no sense at all. Ive sold huawei mdoems and internet devices for years and they have been extremely reliable and very little problems. While i dont have as much experience with their handsets i am more than willing to gIve them a chance. Judging from their top tier phones announced at mwc they desrve to have a chance and be noticed
8. willardcw4 (Posts: 169; Member since: 01 Oct 2011)
I think they have a lot of potential if they can get on a couple carriers and get some good marketing! Hopefully they get released in the US soon after the international releases.
9. haikallp (Posts: 161; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Huawei definitey has the potential to be a major smartphone brand. Asian companies like Sony, Samsung and LG are big players in the mobile world now so why can't Huawei join them. I just hope they won't release tons of phones every month and not all receive updates, like Samsung now :/ (and HTC last year)
10. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Huawei might just take away my money before LG does for their quad cores. shaping up to be a great year for the android universe. and this is only the beginning
12. AhmadAlsayegh (Posts: 271; Member since: 18 Jul 2011)
First of all, PA this is a well written article...bravo!
second, I wouldn't think that Huawei benchmarks would be fraud, logically, If i were a company that wants to invade one of the biggest smart phone markets on solid ground, I wouldn't lie....consumers really appreciate honesty...
What the guys in PA think? are those real benchmarks?
44. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
I dont believe any benchmarks until they are on commercial devices. Thats why I keep laughing as people hold on so dearly to those S4 benchmarks on a reference device, not a commercial device.
If Huawei wants to make a good impression, then they wont lie. I called out samsung on their BS with messing with crapdragon benchmarks for their american SGS2 variants. Problem is that this is a new chip with no track record to compare it to, so it will be much harder to tell if its a lie or not.
14. GeckoHA559 (Posts: 47; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Ofcourse they can, they have taken over ZTE in the race for it as well it seems. When the ZTE and Huawei devices come out here in the UK, I always look forward to them being branded by their real names. Its quite sad to see the networks buy the devices and rename them under their own names.
16. jan25 (Posts: 468; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
"Could Huawei become the next HTC?"
not when that white Huawei looks exactly like the Galaxy S2
17. LoneShaolin (Posts: 307; Member since: 14 Jan 2012)
What's your point? Every HTC looks the same.
18. jan25 (Posts: 468; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
you are exaggerating. never the less, i think HTC manufactures the best looking phones (subject to debate of course). at least they don't copy other manufacturer's designs. that white Huawei is an S2 clone.
21. Chronos (Posts: 258; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
That's an exaggerated statement. The design of the Ascend D Quad only has some similarities with the Galaxy S II.
27. SleepingOz (unregistered)
Every phone has similiarities to each other! They all have a rectangular shape, a rectangular black screen, physical buttons on their sides, a camera sensor on their back, etc..
36. andro. (Posts: 1997; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Apple has now seen your comparisons and has decided Huawei is to be sued,the phone is black and rectangular after all,those dam huawei folk most have been spying in cupertino!!!
31. jan25 (Posts: 468; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
the S2's bottom curve? textured back? place of the speaker and camera? come one, what's left?
40. bayusuputra (Posts: 961; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
like the saying goes,
"don't judge a book by its cover"
it's the inside that matters.. the front doesn't look like the SGSII.. and we don't see the back of the phone that often, especially when you are showing the phone to your friends..
52. u-suck-more (Posts: 529; Member since: 26 Aug 2011)
i knew a post like this would come up -_- someone just has to compare the design of the phone.. i mean how interesting can a rectangle be?! feature phones could look different from each other (in the past) because they use keypads/touchpads and not a touchscreen. how can u make a touchscreen device look drastically different from one another? it is essentially a screen+bezel.. the main difference is usually in the size of the bezel and screen. of cos the form factor would be the same, would u want a circle screen?! and even when manufacturers come up with different/unique designs for phones, ppl will call it ''ugly'' and call the manufacturer ''mad''.
the LG Optimus Vu is a perfect example of a phone that has a different design but so many ppl call it ugly.. if it were to be design with the regular ratio ppl would say it is a ''copy of the Galaxy Note'', but bcos it isn't, ppl call it ''ugly'', ''mad''. ppl say they want different designs, when they get it, they call it ugly
People = Impossible to please
58. jan25 (Posts: 468; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)
I care little for a phone design and I feel sorry for people who do but even you admitted the phones resemblance to the S2. Now HTC, Samsung, Apple, LG, Sony and even Acer have some kind of an iconic design to their phones. How do they manage to do it? I don't know but I do know that if you give me for example an unlabeled HTC, I will be able to tell that its an HTC. If Huawei want to be a reputable phone manufacturer company, then they should act like one. I wasn't going to go further in the debate but I did appreciate your long post.
59. u-suck-more (Posts: 529; Member since: 26 Aug 2011)
no where in my post did i explicitly admit that the phone resembles the S2, nor did i deny it.
now if you really cared little for phone designs, you wouldn't have posted this post because to you, it should 'just be another rectangle shaped phone'. now i know comparisons are inevitable, but ppl should stop making them. what i was trying to bring across in my post was that, people say they want a phone with a different design, but when they get it, they shun it cos it isnt ''normal'' to them. which is true in the case of the LG Optimus Vu.
im sorry, i know u dont want to further the debate but i felt that i should tell u what i was trying to bring up~
19. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I think the title is off.
In a way, Huawei is much more similar to early nineties Samsung, and it's standard-bearing status of staggeringly growing Korean economy at the time.
Samsung wanted to be like Sony.
Today, Samsung overthrown Sony as the world's largest tech brand.
Huawei is a wide array hardware manufacturer(unlike HTC which is basically an assembler of phones and tablets only) backed up by Chinese government, to be a standard-bearer of it's economic potential.
So if such Huawei sees Samsung as it's role model, you can get the idea of the end result.
HTC is a small fish to what Huawei could become.
47. Vadermando (Posts: 11; Member since: 19 Dec 2011)
Nice!!!!!Good comment. You´re 100% right
20. Leon101 (Posts: 90; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
I think both are good but HTC is known more!!! The only thing that htc should do is to stop making phones with the same design as the sensation but other than that you guys are AWESOME!!
24. aoikemono27 (Posts: 177; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Not with their current lineup they aren't. A Galaxy S2 ripoff design just makes it look like a knockoff. Other phones from HTC, Sony, and Motorola have unique, distinguishable design languages at least. They are not all "black slabs." It doesn't have anything outwardly fancy like Super AMOLED that makes it unique, or a polycarbonate shell or metal unibody or glowing translucent bar. Specs don't go very far outside the tech geek world, and there is plenty of competition for the spec crown anyway. A name like Huawei is only gonna elicit questions about build quality, exploding batteries, and mistrust among the more xenophobic who don't like China's growing influence. Their history as a cheap phone maker doesn't help either. You can at least shrug off the Galaxy S2's cheap look because it has so much else, especially the brand recognition and a pedigree for making cheap looking phones that are still well built and won't fall apart. Huawei needed to make a good first impression that was unique and garnered awe. It failed, and Chinese knockoff status still persists. Quad-core ain't specialy when almost ever other phonemaker at MWC has a quad-core in tow.
29. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
I have an Evo 3D, I love HTC, but I trade that or any phone PERIOD to get the Huawei Ascend D1 or the quad core one. Those 2 are some of the best phone on the market
*Runs under bunker to avoid Sammy fan boys massive dislike button pressing*
33. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
"Not with their current lineup they aren't. A Galaxy S2 rip-off design just makes it look like a knockoff" I remember when the SGSII was an iphone knockoff and look at it now...
45. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
only itrolls ever thought that..
because, u know there is so much to compare it to. u know with the SGS2's small 4.3+inch screen, HDMI mirroring capability, wifi calling & hotspots, true multitasking, super amoled+, and all the other things that it shares with the iphone..
oh wait.. it doesnt share anything with the iphone. yeeeea...
46. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
lol and you can see all that while the phone is off and from a distance... wow.. calm down we are talking about LOOKS.. not specs.. sparky...
49. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
really? good to know... you should be a Samsung lawyer...
51. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
depending on the version. its also 5.32 for the sprint and Tmobile variants.
lookin at the phone from a distance, and u wont even be able to see the iphone. it will look like a lighter with that little screen.
dude, you have no point.. just admit you have no point and walk away.. lol
54. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)
convincing you guys of that is not my priority... that's why Samsung is having a losing records versus Apple in court... you guys can continue to live in the Samsung world.... hey another Samsung model just came out.. rush .. to buy it... it has a beam. to call batman...
53. u-suck-more (Posts: 529; Member since: 26 Aug 2011)
and the iPhone is a copy of.... the LG PRADA Phone 1
37. hepresearch (unregistered)
It is like Honda, Hyundai, and Kia... Honda was part of a first-generation of established modern automakers when Hyundai started out as a second-generation joke among major first-gen automakers. They later became a well-established automaker like Honda, even rivaling their quality in many areas, and then Kia came onto the scene as sort of a joke... but now, even they are coming into their own as of late, as well.
I like to think of HTC as a second-gen mobile phone maker. They came onto the scene making only smart phones, and only with Windows Mobile onboard, with carrier-branding rather than their own in order to avoid the problems of a no-name brand, just as mentioned in the article. In time, and while supporting Android early, they have come into their own as a fixture among first-gen makers like Nokia, Motorola, RIM, Sony-Ericsson, LG, and Samsung... and now Huawei, and ZTE also (I would think), are on the rise after having passed through a phase of undesirability among US consumers. Their products have been improving a lot lately, and although they have been helping themselves to carrier-branding, like HTC once did, I would say they are getting quite competitive among rival handset makers. Huawei is finally getting to a good place in its evolution, such that we are starting to sit up and take notice.
41. Galaxys2...R (Posts: 46; Member since: 04 Oct 2011)
Tbhanr I am not even being funny but alot of people are saying hauwei have the best spec or better spec phone than anyone else atm , please how do you guys arrive at that conclusion seeing as when I have looked at the specs of this phone it is practically what others like htc, lg have i.e 4.5 - 4.7 inch 720p screen, 1gb ram, quad core 1.5ghz, 1080p @ 30fps, 1.3mp front camera with 720p recording. The only thing they have better on paper is bigger battery has anyone seen a review of the phone or day to day experience of it to say its the best phone out there because on paper specs alone it is practically the same as everything else. I mean for example the sensation xe has bigger battery than say xperia arc or sgs2 but from what I have been told from those who have the phone that the battey isnt batter juet because it has more capacity it is down to optimisation
56. ADroidGuy (Posts: 1; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)
Huawei could at this point never be the next HTC. HTC brought in something new with their designs, if you have seen the Ascend D Quad you know it's far from original, the design is nothing more than a copy of the Galaxy S2.
57. Chronos (Posts: 258; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
It's a good thing that the quality of smartphones aren't based on the exterior designs.