Conflicting specs say Microsoft Surface 2 and Surface Pro 2 will have Intel inside
0. phoneArena 04 Sep 2013, 13:45 posted on
Earlier on Wednesday, we told you about a Microsoft Surface 2, the sequel to the Microsoft Surface RT, that went through the GFX benchmark revealing a Tegra 4 under the hood; now, a conflicting story has been revealed as specs for both the Surface 2 and the Microsoft Surface Pro 2 have leaked. According to the latest buzz, both slates will be released in the middle of October...
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1. Commentator (Posts: 2736; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Why is "Samsung Galaxy Note 3" perpetually PA's first article?
3. daddysbeenabadgirl (Posts: 157; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
Dont worry next week iPhone will be released and iPA will post 50+ articles, many redundant and repeating, within a few hours like they did last year.
10. T00muchF00D (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Nov 2011)
look I know that PhoneArena posts hundreds of the same iPhone articles (i.e. Now lets look at the iPhone from a 43 degree angle) but they aren't as bad as the REAL iPhone/Apple tech site Gizmodo. I got banned from their site and facebook and twitter because I called them out on false articles and conflicting articles and how they only post negative articles about Microsoft. I am also a gamer and use to read Kotaku which is also directly related to Gizmodo and noticed that all the xbox related news were put in a bad light....I started to feel like I was watching fox news (I am republican but do realize that they play tons of sound bites, edit, re order, and sometimes flat out make things up) and I noticed now that the whole branch of their tech news hates Microsoft. GO to their site and call them out. We need people to stop biased one sided news. I actually enjoy PA.....that's how one sided Gizmodo and Kotaku are. IF you are an Android, Windows Phone 8, or BB10 user.....good luck finding one article on Gizmodo that doesn't call you a F**king retard for not having an iPhone. THANKS PA (not sarcasm) I know you post lots of the same iPhone stuff but I still really like how you at least give in depth reviews, even for us small slices of the pie users (me, WP8 Lumia 920). I read all your stuff on my Lumia and its what made me want to buy it.
12. juandante (Posts: 452; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
And why do you want to defend the worst company on earth ? Check M$ history. And STFU.
4. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6979; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
because its IFA 13' in BERLINE GERMANY Samsung announce the NOTE III, GALAXY TAB 2014 edition
2. ZeroCide (Posts: 708; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)
This would be Awesome. No more inferior chips......GIMME ONE!!!!
5. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
They might drop the RT name, but they'll have Windows RT OS there. They won't give up on the OS because they know its crucial, even if people don't like it now.
It's probably just two tiers of x86 Surfaces for the legacy compability for the poor and loaded.
Windows RT is insurance in case Intel can't climb the hill and ARM becomes even more pervasive than they already are. Once ARM chips starts creeping into the tablet and ultrabook markets and Intel is still trying to break into smartphone design wins its game over. If Microsoft can't accomodate ARM if that happens, they're dead meat.
6. gazmatic (Posts: 628; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
windows rt 8.1 is awesome
it has a lot of things baked in
i was actually surprised that it had so much customization
the only thing that it doesnt do is run x86 apps :-(
8. ZeroCide (Posts: 708; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)
I think thats the most important thing it needs is the ability to run x86 apps. It would sell really well at that oint. That's what has kept me away from RT units till now.
11. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
Even if ARM chips could somehow run x86 software, it wouldn't run it at any acceptable speed because they're so darn inefficient thanks to the rocketing scaling in speed during the '90s and '00s.
Since ARM chips are becoming stronger and are present everywhere, more and more software designed for x86 already shifted or has an equivalent already available.
One of x86's key advantages will slowly slip away except for power users. Now that cost management for data centers has become more of a sensitive issue, ARM is also gaining favor there as well.
Only things like scientific weather/protein modeling and simulations would still use the most powerful server processors. Perhaps game streaming services too.
7. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
I find it extremely funny and ironic how on android central last year around the time when the surface was first announced everybody thought it would kill the ipad and android tabs. That's what happens when you hype up something and don't know the proper info. If the surface confused tech heads on a website right off the bat then surely it must have confused average consumers too.
9. FadyNabil (Posts: 39; Member since: 10 May 2013)
If intel can deliver a power friendly fully functional x86 processor for a good price,
then what will be the point of ARM?! nothing!
Windows RT then will have no point, also IOS, Android will be lost completely, while microsoft will bring full windows to the tablets, apple will bring the full MAC OS also.
till now, Atom is there but this is not a full x86 processor, it lacks a lot, hypervisor for example which is a deal breaker for me.
13. renz4 (Posts: 310; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
MS make windows RT especially for ARM processor. make it run on x86 processor will defeat the very purpose of making the OS in the first place
14. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1292; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
The truth is Surfsce 2 = Windows RT 8.1 OS with a Tegra 4 CPU. MS is obviously Killing OFF the Microsoft "RT" Brand name you wont ever hear it again but the Apps will still be special apps designed for ARMS CPU architecture so they will work fine on the Previous Surface RT model. "Surface Pro" = Intel Haswell i5 CPU, with at least 7 hours battery life, more Ram, same case design but will have a 2 position kickstand. a new type cover with a built in battery is coming to further increase it's battery powered mobile usage. Microsoft still needs to built a
surface Pro Ultra with an Intel Haswell i7 CPU so the Surface Pro can play CAD programs and
complex HD Video games
15. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1292; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Does Anybody out there on the Web know if Nokia will release it's windows Rt tabl;et now that Microsoft has bought Nokia. The MS "Windows RT" Brand name is DEAD so this tablet
has to just say it Runs the Surface 2's OS but is compatible with the DEAD Windows RT
programs. Hmm Microsoft should Call it ARMS CPU OS MS "TABOS" an acronym for
Microsoft "Tablet operating System"= TaBOS" Hmm I like that name better than Windows RT
anyday. If you like this name Microsoft use it with my blessings if you can. "GCN"
16. jaxson983 (Posts: 43; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)
I own my a business and use a RT. I've never had issues with not being able to run a program I needed. People always talk about the number of apps available but I can't believe people are actually using that many of them. I've had a smart phone for years and I've maybe downloaded 4 apps two of which I deleted. If you want to play games get a PS Vita