ComScore round up: See Q2's winners and losers
0. phoneArena 02 Jul 2012, 16:26 posted on
The latest market share numbers are out from comScore, and it looks like more of the same, which is great if your are Google or Apple, but less good if you are Microsoft or RIM...
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2. tedkord (Posts: 5525; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
I think Windows Phone will pick up traction. With existing phones not getting the update to WP8, there's not much incentive to get one this close to launch of WP8.
41. Phullofphil (Posts: 801; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
I really don't get why windows phone is not more popular. Is it because android and apple have the best of the best hardware or mor apps. I have an android phone and like it a lot. Having said that I think windows phone is a better built operating system from the ground up than android. I really think the live tile home screen should be an option like on windows eight on my computer where you can hit the start button and that live tiles will be there or like when you hit desk top it will go to a traditional screen. I probably will eventually get a windows phone if there around long enough. I really like the windows eight computer and think the surface tablets are awesome. But it seems like people are so brainwashed into liking there android device or apple device ( probably because they invested so much money in apps and stuf along with knowing how to us the OS ) that it will be hard for windows. I really hope with windows eight coming out and having it co exist on your phone tablet and computer( hopfully other stuff like televisions and stuff) that it gets more popular cause it's a great platform just a little young and behind in features. The more popular it is the more investment into it there will be to go along with the feed back frome the consumers business and regular. It's weird that windows 6 and basically the older windows OS could actually do everything and more that any thing out right now. They had an app store handango( apps were to expensive) I would love to have an older windows phone that was more touch friendly and up to date with android and apple. That OS was mor like a reall computer and could do a lot more if you were smart enough to do it than any of the newer operating systems. Any way I hope to see windows phone and the computer based version get huge. I like the phones but heck I still a sucker for a quad core exenos processors with 2gb ddr2 memmory and a 720 p screen with a badd to the bone graphics. I assume the way they are catching up with apps that that could be its draw back. Along with the fact that the operating system cost so much to buy the licens for each phone. But I can't wait to have a long battery life tablet with a ivy ridge i5 processor that is a full operating system that can do it all. That has always been my dream computer. My iPad is awesome but I hate how limited it really is. I just hope I can get atliest 12 hours out of a single charge and lose no power while in sleep mode like my iPad. I can't wait to see what windows phone eight can really do on all platforms
50. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Honestly....I think its beacuse of:
Bad tastes in folks mouth that had the old Win Mo.
The iPhone and Android are just good phones, no matter what the fanboys on each side say.
Android filled in the void of MS never really answering the iPhone sooner.
3. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 535; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)
Between WP8 and some real carrier support, maybe Microsoft may get some traction. Of course I had similar sentiments a year ago.
4. mas11 (Posts: 1033; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Good luck WP! We need more competition in the market.
5. snowgator (Posts: 3335; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
The real tale to be told is that Windows Mobile is not propping up Windows Phone anymore. WP is gaining, which is why MS in general is holding steady. And gained a little, a whole .1%. (Okay, the last part is the WP Geek in me talking, but the first part is very true.) Yes, I truly was hoping for a better showing (closer to 10%? Even 8%?), so in no way am I claiming a victory for WP. But it is trending upwards. If they can sell at this rate until WP 8 comes out, I am VERY hopeful for 2013 and it's future.
No other surprises here. Android is not going anywhere, and iPhone 5 is going to be a monstrous launch in the fall. Sure, there is a bit of a backlash against MS for WP 8/WP 7, but it ain't nothing like RIM is going to see for the rest of the year with BB07 getting ignored, and BB10 not even a factor. It isn't even being mentioned among carriers, developers, or tech sites unless it is mobile sites. It is looking grim for 2012/first part of 2013.
7. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
lol...why the red thumbs? This was an accurate statement.
And finally!! For the first time in a long time WP has gained and Symbian has lost...
11. rnk.khch (Posts: 86; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
It would be interesting to see how Symbian will perform in the third quarter with the launch of Nokia 808 PureView. This is really the first Symbian phone to be eye-catching enough for the US market. Many people I know have already pre-ordered it or are going to order it, something I had never seen before.
16. Oxygen (Posts: 82; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Pureview or not, symbian is bound to perish.
29. rnk.khch (Posts: 86; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Well, that's a transition, and that happens because the mobile gadgets are becoming more and more powerful and eventually able to handle desktop OS (Windows). (The fact that Windows phone 8 has the same kernel as Windows 8 is a testimony to this trend.) Once that happens, there is no need to have a mobile OS anyways. Nokia made that decision (transition from Symbian to Windows Phone OS) just at the perfect time. As they have announced, they will continue to support Symbian till 2016, and they will evaluate the situation. By then, Windows Phone OS may be the exact thing as Windows OS. Even then, there is no guarantee that they will completely abandon Symbian. But even if they do, that's perfectly fine. Symbian has done its job for decades, and has done it in a fantastic way. Mobile OS's are temporary, and the future will be fine without them.
25. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I hope ppl dont think I'm rooting against Symbian...its just for so long MS has been not gaining and Symbian above them.
30. rnk.khch (Posts: 86; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Well, globally speaking, Symbian was fine and always significantly ahead of ios up until the first quarter of 2012.
13. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
Yeah, Apple is never looking "too bad." xP
22. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
Why the thumbs down? It's true, as much as I hate it.
28. qwertypoor (Posts: 72; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)
Because most of the people on here are extreme android fanboboys you'll have to praise android like it's your god. Let's go wp8 overtake apple
32. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Or extreme haters of Apple....lol
Dont like their business practices, it kept me from getting the iPhone in 2008..and since the iPhone 4 released they seem extremely anal and petty....
But them gaining marketshare ...it is what it is....like it or not gotta give em props for it.
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8. rnk.khch (Posts: 86; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
For a realistic analysis, the global market share should also be considered. Hopefully the global stats will be out soon.
9. Immolate (Posts: 292; Member since: 17 Jun 2011)
Interesting the increase in share for Apple with no new product to drive it. iPad 3 coattails maybe? This was for March - May so no IOS6 benefit. Marketing push? I don't watch much commercial TV so I don't know.
10. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
Google rules... Apple is inching closer and closer to RIM...
12. downphoenix (Posts: 2499; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
I would like to see what the WP7 fans have to say. The much hyped and praised launch of the Nokia Lumia 900 only succeeded in preventing WPs marketshare from collapsing any further than it has so far. At this rate, WP will surpass Blackberry in a year (at 4.3% of the marketplace to 4.2 for RIM), sadly due to RIMs failings rather than Microsoft's successes. Go Microsoft!
15. andro. (Posts: 1974; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Yes but the very slight gain of wp in the market is more due to the demise and lack of sales of rim handsets and symbian than actually any popularity of wp itself. With symbian levels about to fall even lower wp might gain a little more ground but its general unpopularity will keep at more or less at its current state. Observing it the reaction to customers week in week out i cant see wp gaining anything much more unfortunately for nokia.
14. rudlie (Posts: 182; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
Android closed to maturity point, ready to declined. Ios just double android.
17. gallitoking (Posts: 4693; Member since: 17 May 2011)
out of the the OS the one with the most loyal fans is iOS. so if someone is losing market share to bring WP it will be Android.. and RIM
18. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Yup I've been asserting the same thing. The one who stands to lose from Windows gaining marketshare is android.
19. gallitoking (Posts: 4693; Member since: 17 May 2011)
not according to remix saying that windows market share will come from Apple.. watch him still defend that
20. gallitoking (Posts: 4693; Member since: 17 May 2011)
and according to some fandroids kids have iphones and ipads thanks to their parents. so those kids will no go anywhere and when they have kids they will be part of the Apple stats at an early age.. even better
33. zhypher_23 (Posts: 195; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)
It's so sad that your guys' comments are thumbed up only by the two of you gallitoking+taco thumbing up one another...
38. gallitoking (Posts: 4693; Member since: 17 May 2011)
but I have gotten more than 2...explain that to me
44. remixfa (Posts: 14224; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
god, can you ever quote me right???
NEW SMARTPHONE USERS that are choosing between the 3 and leaning towards apple for its SIMPLICITY will also gravitate towards WINDOWS 8 NOT 7.. WINDOWS 8 IS NOT OUT YET, and take away potential customers from iOS.
An iOS USER THAT IS THINKING ABOUT SWITCHING TO ANOTHER DEVICE will also likely lean towards WINDOWS 8 WHICH IS NOT OUT YET. because it the half way point between stupid simplicity and crazy customization.
35. tedkord (Posts: 5525; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
That's not how it seems to be playing out in Finland, where WP has taken off a bit.
21. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
I'm kind of surprised how poorly HTC has been doing. I thought the One series was going to get them somewhere, but they're still just a nobody essentially. The market is still being dominated by Samsung, LG and Apple.
47. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
You also have to consider the fact that HTC only makes smartphones while Motorola and Samsung also make feature phones, which is what gives them a bigger market share.
26. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)
i rather wait till BB and WP launch.
because BB and WP fans still waiting to buy
36. Rocksteady (unregistered)
I think apple will try to ban Microsoft/Nokia from the market once it feels the threat.
What a dirty dirty company you are apple.
39. speckledapple (Posts: 879; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
I like the comments on windows phone. I think it would be awesome to have more competition and with what microsoft can bring, it will be tough competition. Thus, i want them to really gain that audience and make it a three way.
40. Rocksteady (unregistered)
I agree with you.
Except that I prefer it being a two way competition.
With Apple out of the way, it could become more tech related instead of a legal competition.
42. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Lol what dreamworld do you live in that has Apple out of the way?
45. remixfa (Posts: 14224; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yet the 900 is still on ATT's top seller list. I wonder how many old windows 6xx phones are still out there being traded in. That's been what's affecting the sales charts for the last year... they lump 6xx devices with windows 7 which makes it look like its losing share, even though its a completely different platform.
46. downphoenix (Posts: 2499; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
Well they lump in all iphone, blackberry, and androids together regardless of version, wouldn't be fair to do the same for windows.
49. remixfa (Posts: 14224; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
a different version and a different OS are 2 different things. this isnt the difference between iOS4 and iOS6, or Android 2.2 and 4.1. Windows 6 and Windows 7 are COMPLETELY different OS's from the ground up. The only thing they have in common is the brand logo.
That would be like saying if you slap an apple logo on android devices, even though it still an android device, it should count under the iOS banner.