Collect $18,000 for being the first to root the Samsung Galaxy S5 on Verizon and AT&T
0. phoneArena 28 May 2014, 15:29 posted on
The hack and mod community is so desperate for a way to root the Samsung Galaxy S5, that an $18,000 bounty has been placed upon the task. Over at XDA, the details of the offer are posted. The $18K is not a payment made by one entity. Instead, it is the sum of a number of individual pledges ranging from $5 to as high as $4000...
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1. sprockkets (Posts: 1308; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
What, Samsung doesn't offer a dev edition like Moto does with their Moto X?
9. JC557 (Posts: 1150; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Maybe it's in the works for those carriers.
Thecarriers really should allow us that option of full customization instead of forcing us into an Apple-like walled garden. Then again the US is full of litigious people should something go wrong with the phone due to their own screw ups...
28. Droidrapist (Posts: 186; Member since: 28 May 2014)
Think of the money they incur with manufacturer warranty claims of 'rooted' phones. You think corporations care about people? You, or your needs? They care about their shareholders and they will sell you arsenic with instructions to drink it if it was legal and made thier stock go up a hundreth of a point.
37. tacarat (Posts: 211; Member since: 22 Apr 2013)
Doubtful. I work at one of those unnamed carrier stores and most people can't be trusted to do a basic backup of their contacts. The manufacturers don't want to make it easy to customize and update your current phone as it means you're not buying a new phone.
The new features, like say biometrics, also are an incentive to keep things locked down to prove there's a secure environment for paypal and the like.
47. techperson211 (Posts: 707; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)
Is this some kind of One plus advertisement? There's a catch like the invite thing?
52. matistight (Posts: 202; Member since: 13 May 2009)
this is by devs and such. This is no way related to samsung other than the fact that it's their own devices. One Plus One ad was actually created by the company, this isnt made by any companies actually
50. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4335; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
YES Verizon sells a Dev. edition Galaxy S 5. AT&T doesn't...
51. sprockkets (Posts: 1308; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Well I checked and you are right. But ATT doesn't have to, you just buy an unlocked gsm version :)
2. Ninetysix (Posts: 1669; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Just install a custom bootloader and ROM...oh wait, you can't! So much for customization eh?
5. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1389; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
If you get an unlock version, then you can do whatever you want. However, the carriers are the one that they don't want anyone to mess with their devices.
7. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3606; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
The telecoms, Google, NSA, etc. Basically every corporate and government power does not want people to control their "own" phones.
Basically, every phone today comes with many forms of spyware/remote-break-in, and some of these can be circumvented using root and/or custom ROMs.
13. Scott93274 (Posts: 1293; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)
And these are the things the voices are telling you? Remember, if they tell you to start burning things, that's the time to stop listening and seek help.
17. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3606; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
No "voices", just thousands of articles describing all of the things I mentioned in depth and detail.
For starters, are you familiar with the NSA documents that Snowden leaked? Or do you think he was hearing "voices" too?
44. networkdood (Posts: 6309; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Get out from under the rock...you would be surprised what has been going in the world today. Satanic rituals and the pope, Snowden, NATO false flag attacks...or just continue to ignore reality and enjoy blissful ignorance....
29. Droidrapist (Posts: 186; Member since: 28 May 2014)
The carriers are the ones froting the price of the phones after all with their 'contracts' so of course they don't want you to unlock them and use them elsewhere the whole reason they are selling phones for $199.99 instead of $649 is so that you don't root it. Now that they are moving towards "EDGE" and "Next" where you pay the price of the phone in full in installments watch it become easy to unlock any phone because the company won't be losing cash to have customers but the customers will be putting up the money up front for the devices.
33. baldilocks (Posts: 541; Member since: 14 Dec 2008)
You can still customize all you want. You just can't get root file access or install custom ROMs.
35. tedkord (Posts: 5109; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Just change the grid of icons to something else... Oh wait, you still have way more customization on Android. Even with a locked bootloader.
38. Ninetysix (Posts: 1669; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
I don't understand this comment. It's fine to have no root access and locked bootloader because it's still more customizable than iOS? The reason I switched to Android because I want to have full control of my device.The very first thing that I did when I got my S4 was root and debloat (got rid of all the AT&T and Samsung junk).
*crickets*...Pretty dead there.
3. SellPhones82 (Posts: 558; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
So what is so much different with the Sprint and T-Mobile versions then since they've had root since launch day? Locked bootloaders I assume from AT&T and VZW? Sounds like a carrier issue. I thought I remember seeing Chainfire rooted a version of the S5 2 weeks before it was even released.
4. sprockkets (Posts: 1308; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Well the aholes at att and verizon along with the OEM scour all the root exploits on xda, not so that they can make the phone secure for you, but make it secure for them.
Cause they don't give a sht about you. If they did, they'd be making sure all the patches that affect you get pushed. But they don't.
30. Droidrapist (Posts: 186; Member since: 28 May 2014)
Because Verizon and At&t spend 4x as much on building their networks so they obviously want those devices they sell out of their warehouses to be ON their networks. That's not very hard to understand. That's how they stay in business...
6. Blazers (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
There's also a high bounty for a root for the Note 3 on 4.4.2.
8. MichaelA (Posts: 18; Member since: 14 May 2014)
Hopefully all this means is that there will be more development for the LG G3. Woot Woot!
12. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3606; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Hopefully. Google/ATT/VZW/etc. have been putting tremendous pressure on LG to lock down their phones.
22. ErenJaeger (Posts: 119; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)
LG G2 on tmobile was very difficult to root and I usually root all my phones. Carriers are being a pain for android's future.
31. Droidrapist (Posts: 186; Member since: 28 May 2014)
That's because Androids are becoming more and more popular - this i why the Apple iPHone was 'locked' for AT&T in the first place. Both companies knew how big the phones would become so they wanted to have the exclusive rigths to all those users. Now that Android is catching up they don't want to lose the cash cow to pre-paid services like Cricket, Metro, and AIO...
10. joe1blue (Posts: 117; Member since: 25 Jul 2013)
This is why I only stay with phone companies like T-Mobile and I would day sprint but their services is verry bad in my location, these phone companies are the worst they first give you limited data caps then charge the hell out of us then they want to lock down their phones they even excluded the download Booster features from the phone lol I would be on ebay buying an at&t unlimited sim of T-Mobile wasn't an option!
11. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3606; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Basically the only way to have an S5 on ATT with root and an unlocked bootloader is to purchase a T-Mobile S5 for $660 and unlock the SIM lock so it can be used on ATT.
The T-Mobile S5 does not come with a locked bootloader, so it can be rooted without too much trouble.
32. Droidrapist (Posts: 186; Member since: 28 May 2014)
So you buy a phone for $660 up front to save ... $20 dollars on a bill each month. But if you divide $660 by 24 months.. its $27 a month so you're paying $7 extra each month, but up front to be a kicking and screaming baby and have your damn phone on the carrier you like? Doesn't make any sense. Better if you buy a stolen S5 for $150 on the street... now THAT makes sense, but you migh get robbed buying the phone. xD
34. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3606; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
I agree completely. Well almost completely. Up to that point about getting the stolen S5 on the street :)
It is cheaper for me to get a subsidized phone because no major carrier offers a reasonable BYOD discount. I am stuck with ATT due to reception issues and wanting to keep my unlimited data plan. It's not really unlimited, but it offers good value without overage charges.
The S5 is not really my ideal phone and is fully locked down on ATT, but if the S5 Active were available on ATT, with unlocked bootloader, LCD screen, and a shutter button, I would seriously consider getting it.
48. shuaibhere (Posts: 1659; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
What about the $200 you pay upfront???
53. matistight (Posts: 202; Member since: 13 May 2009)
shoot id pay $150 for stolen S5's, send them my way, i'll take 10
21. fzacek (Posts: 2093; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)
T-Mobile actually locked the bootloader down really hard on the LG G2 with the KitKat update. There is still no way to properly unlock the bootloader or root it...
24. ErenJaeger (Posts: 119; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)
True that. I had to go back to jellybean from kitkat just to root my device. I had to use LG programs which suck. I'm still looking forward to rooting on kitkat.
14. mike2959 (Posts: 263; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
So we can't root and custom rom a device because the government and the nsa are watching us? Listen up guy's, nobody cares how much porn we're all watching on our phones. Nobody cares if you're wife texts you to bring home some milk. However if you have a multi million dollar home in the Bahamas, in some obscure company name, are using some super encrypted phone, texting someone in Saudi Arabia... We might want to check into them. Oh and besides Android is about OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE FOR THE MANUFACTURERS AND OEM'S. It wasn't for Johnny in his bedroom to write code.
18. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3606; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
If you perform a "who benefits" analysis of the pervasive monitoring that exists today, then you will realize that there are many more realistic uses of the monitoring than the Hollywood movie scenario that you are describing.
Corporate espionage is one of them. Why do you think the patent system is "first to file" now? Can you connect the dots?
15. networkdood (Posts: 6309; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Just another reason to not buy Samsung...not very modder friendly...looks like OnePlus One is going to be a great device at an awesome price...
20. wilsong17 (Posts: 1058; Member since: 10 Mar 2013)
How is this samsung fault dumb as hell is the freaking carrier
25. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8833; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Excuse comment #15. He only came here to take a cheap jab at Samsung knowing damn well it's AT&T's and Verizon's fault.
26. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3606; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
It's not entirely the fault of VZW and ATT. After Samsung started including KNOX as a standard feature, the phones got tougher to root.
40. networkdood (Posts: 6309; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Bingo!!! It actually is Samsung's doing...and carrier, to an extent...
41. networkdood (Posts: 6309; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Wow, Smurfette, you used to be awesome to chat with. But, now you are just an Anus like your boyfriends, ninety six, mxy, and darkkjedi...why did you go to the dark side? Lol
19. GreekGeek (Posts: 844; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
With phones getting harder and harder to root by thd passing day is just, sad.
23. fzacek (Posts: 2093; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)
Really shows how the two largest carriers in the US are just power-hungry a**holes that don't care a tad about true customer satisfaction...
27. Droidrapist (Posts: 186; Member since: 28 May 2014)
Someone pledge $4000 to root a phone Jesus some people don't know what to do with all their money huh? I didn't know cocaine and hookers would get that boring it the long run...
39. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3606; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
The virus you may get from a rooted phone is not so bad as virus from hooker. And the cocaine is much less fun without the hooker.
43. networkdood (Posts: 6309; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Virus? What is that? Never heard of those on Android devices...
45. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3606; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Ya know, the word "malware" just didn't work too well with the whole hooker and cocaine thing... in hindsight, I should have used the word "trojan"... ;-)
54. matistight (Posts: 202; Member since: 13 May 2009)
Apparently a virus is some thing that androids get when you put way too much "unsafe" root apps on the device. It's a lot like what happens when you do the same on a jailbroken idevice. Strange that no one remembers the second part happens too.
Of course, having a device simply rooted/jailbroken will not give you a virus
36. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
Last time I've seen a pledge like this, the DEv didn't end up getting all his money.. Smh..
42. networkdood (Posts: 6309; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Just another reason to either be with T mobile and/or get non carrier phones...anyone know if the LG G3 has the lockdown treatment?
46. mariosraptor (Posts: 110; Member since: 15 Mar 2012)
if you want root, you don't buy it. plain simple
49. tokuzumi (Posts: 336; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)
The guy who pledged $4k will never pony up if root is achieved. So, we are down to $14k. Roughly 10% will actually pay up, so that leaves roughly $1400. Still not bad, but a far cry from what is being "promised".
55. turtlenightmare (Posts: 2; Member since: 14 Nov 2014)
DONE MY GALAXY S5 IS ROOTED. IT IS ON 4.4.2 AND IS ROOTED.