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Class action suit filed over iPhone "error 53" seeks over $5 million in damages and restitution

0. phoneArena 11 Feb 2016, 19:51 posted on

On Monday, we told you that Seattle law firm PCVA was contemplating the filing of a class action suit against Apple over the "error 53" message that indicates that an iPhone has been bricked. Today, the law firm filed for a jury trial in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California. What causes this error message to pop up is the replacement of certain components in the Apple iPhone 6 and Apple iPhone 6 Plus...

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posted on 11 Feb 2016, 20:12 9

1. FrenchTea (Posts: 16; Member since: 18 Aug 2014)

Saw this coming a mile away lol @apple

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 20:44 10

8. AlikMalix (unregistered)

Actually I saw bigger consequences. $5 mil is nothing!!! Has to be at least $50mil.

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 21:39

15. maple_mak (Posts: 801; Member since: 18 Dec 2013)

That's weird.

posted on 12 Feb 2016, 03:49

36. My1cent (Posts: 370; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)

Error fruity tree?

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 21:54 7

17. ibend (Posts: 6549; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)

at least $5bil to slap some sense to their head, so they can respect their customer
permanently deleting customer data is so wrong..
(btw they should give those money to all "error 53 victims", not PCVA)

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 22:00 3

20. lyndon420 (Posts: 4923; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Maybe it depends on how many people get involved with the suit. How many people out there usually jump on an update as soon as it's posted?

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 23:12

24. AlikMalix (unregistered)

That's a lot of people, lol... Have u seen the stats for iOS 9 adoption? Apple is screwed.

posted on 12 Feb 2016, 02:01 1

33. MSi_GS70 (unregistered)

They should wait to collect huge amou t of damaged ppl
Then it would be bilion bucks of damages..

posted on 12 Feb 2016, 02:35

34. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)

it should be 5 billion... 5 million is nothing... may be apple saw case is inevitable so they paid these lawers to come up with a very small class "baction"(as PA says) suit, to avoid bigger case

posted on 12 Feb 2016, 15:34

47. darkkjedii (Posts: 23902; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

File a suit for 5 billion then.

posted on 12 Feb 2016, 01:59

32. MSi_GS70 (unregistered)

Popcorn or crisps?

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 20:22 11

2. GreekGeek (Posts: 1276; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)

They were updating it wrong

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 20:23 3

3. MrElectrifyer (banned) (Posts: 3960; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)

That's just a meh smack on the wrist...I doubt it'll be enough to make them loosen their iDictator grip on devices people paid for.

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 20:31 29

4. darkkjedii (Posts: 23902; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

There's been some bulls**t suits filed against Apple in the past, but not this one. Not only should they have to pay, but they should be made to replace every single bricked device also. Apple has a ton of money, and can easily afford to reimburse these people, that they should've warned in the first place.

I like Apple and all, but right is right, and on this one they're mos def wrong. I also think this may cause Apple some iPhone 7 sales, cause those who've been affected have to be pretty bummed. I'd only take my iPhone to Apple, even if I didn't know about this before hand, but those who don't have the luxury of having 4 Apple stores in their city, must make due. Apple, Cook, and the rest of them are point blank outta line on this one.

If people want to compromise their data Apple, just remember....they paid for that right. Damn, I almost TechieXP'd.

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 20:43 4

7. AlikMalix (unregistered)

100% agree dj!

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 20:57 5

13. darkkjedii (Posts: 23902; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Yeah bro, Apple is dead wrong on this one. They shoulda put a disclaimer on the box, or in the fingertips pamphlet to let people know the risk of using 3rd party parts, related to that error. I'm disappointed in them on this one big time.

posted on 12 Feb 2016, 03:29

35. Finalflash (Posts: 3448; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

They put a disclaimer called the EULA which everyone accepts without reading. Apple is allowed to change and. mess with the software as they please. They literally just changed iOS only on the error 53 phones. You still own the hardware and all, but you can't use iOS on it, which you license from Apple, if the hardware has been messed with. So this suit is dead in the water, especially in California.

posted on 12 Feb 2016, 05:10

37. xfire99 (Posts: 928; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)

Where in EULA does it says Apple have right to brick peoples phone and make it unsuable? Also destroy peoples data stored on the phone? Since Apple refused to repair any bricked phones which contains 3rd party components.
They may have right to do whatever they want with theirs softwares, but they do not have any rights to brick peoples phones and than leave them out of the cold without any help.

Until now: "after mass-media attention and a potential class-action lawsuit coming against the company. But no official listing of stores doing repairs was available."

posted on 12 Feb 2016, 10:32

44. Finalflash (Posts: 3448; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

Bricking the phone is a side effect of the software being shutdown which the user agreed they can do. You can use the rest of the phone in any way you want but you can't use the software. So use it as a paperweight, install something else on it, whatever you want to do, just not with iOS.

posted on 12 Feb 2016, 07:19 2

40. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)

They should just block Apple pay and stuff linked to the scanner not delete all the phone data thats just wrong.

posted on 12 Feb 2016, 08:41

43. darkkjedii (Posts: 23902; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Yep, I agree.

posted on 12 Feb 2016, 10:34

45. Finalflash (Posts: 3448; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

They aren't wiping the internals, they're just not letting you get to it through iOS or Apple software. You are more than welcome to decrypt the hardware on your own and retrieve the data though. Apple will not be touched on this, they have pretty good lawyers that probably made sure this was legal for them to do before doing it.

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 20:45

10. lyndon420 (Posts: 4923; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Damn good post.

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 20:48 7

12. cheetah2k (Posts: 1720; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)

In Australia a screen repair on a 6S is almost half the price of the phone if you're not covered by any insurance or repair plans - vs getting the screen repaired by a third party which costs substantially less (less than a third of the cost)

Most people have purchased these phones under contract, and cannot afford the repair cost..

Forcing people to pay a premium on the repair via Apple is not only Anti-competitive, but Anti-trust as you give the consumer no option but to pony up the cash to Apple..

I hope this blows up into something much bigger than it is. Apple should have been hit with an Anti-competitive, Anti-trust case long ago for their past and present actions.

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 22:43 1

22. NoToFanboys (Posts: 2789; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)

What's wrong with this is that they are only asking for $5mil

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 23:22 3

25. roscuthiii (Posts: 2232; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)

Nah... you're good. You'd need another paragraph or two.

Back to the topic at hand, since there only going after $5M instead of something more substantial I kinda feel like they may be doing the right thing for the wrong reason. Like the firm will just keep the 5 mil for themselves. Nothing whatsoever to do with effected Apple customers. Lawyers wouldn't do that though, would they?

posted on 12 Feb 2016, 05:16

38. darkkjedii (Posts: 23902; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

I think the amounts too small too.

posted on 13 Feb 2016, 01:09 1

48. NexusKoolaid (Posts: 493; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

@Jedi - regarding what you said: "If people want to compromise their data Apple, just remember....they paid for that right. Damn" - I highly suspect the real situation is not all that cut and dry. I'm not going to explain things in detail here, but do a little research on trusted computing. The financial institutions that got behind Apple Pay probably did so only under the requirement that iOS devices would be designed and operate as a trusted platform. An unregistered/unexpected piece of hardware connected to the phone's data bus compromises trust, plain and simple. And it's not just the user's data involved here - Big Money wants to protect their cash and profits as well (one of the tenets of trusted computing).

I'm not saying Apple is in the right, but OTOH I'm not saying they're in the wrong. Until this plays out a bit more no one has enough information to be pointing fingers or spout off on what Apple could have or should have done instead.

posted on 13 Feb 2016, 12:12

50. darkkjedii (Posts: 23902; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Damn good post bro, I didn't think about the other parties involved. That makes a lot of sense. +1

posted on 11 Feb 2016, 20:34 8

5. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)

It should've been $50 million instead. Patent trolls.

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