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Can the iPad survive the Windows 8 wave, or will history repeat for Apple?

0. phoneArena 30 Aug 2012, 16:11 posted on

Much like CES and MWC have become parades for new Android devices, IFA has been the show for new Windows 8 tablets, and tablet/laptop hybrids. And, the question must be asked: With the wave of Windows 8 about to crest, can the iPad survive?

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posted on 30 Aug 2012, 20:20 1

37. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


and i think RT will goingto be a hit... since win8 and WP8 shares same kernel so developing an app to these platforms is easy... and microsoft has a lot of app devs

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 02:15

56. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


If priced aggresively i can see myself owning a rt surface.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 19:02 1

25. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Well Apple "does" care about market share and that's why they go about suing every one. ~2% drop in market share in a year pissed them off so much that they are after HTC, Samsung and who knows more to come.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 19:07

26. rudlie (Posts: 182; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


in my opinion, it's all depend on what target market and pricing of windows 8's tablet. I think microsoft will hunt high/enterprise level like ipad has. windows 8 tablet is quiet interesting and will have position in the market. just predicted, windows 8 will take 25%-30% in next few years, ipad will get 50%-60%, and android plunge to 10%-20%. I say ipad still holding the market because apple start to penetrate market to midlow with ipad mini. for technical side,windows RT has many limitations. don't expect you can build application as freedom as when build for win32/win64 mode. UI models also not quiet lot.I think next version of windows, all will be mature but not now. for fragmentation, I think microsoft already expert to handle this things, not like android. welcome back windows in tablet, you back from death even you a little bit late to come :p

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 19:14 1

29. networkdood (Posts: 6274; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


People will still buy the ipad, just like they buy the iphone - most consumers are un-informed when it comes to purchasing electronics.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 19:48

33. rudlie (Posts: 182; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


true. I am ios and android user currently. I will still hold them at the future because applications that I bought, but I also interesting on win8 tablet even I'm waiting the kickstarting events and outcome products

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 19:15

30. CreeDiddy (Posts: 306; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)


Very nice well written article. I believe eventually Apple will begin to loose market share by 2013-2014 because of competition. This should force them to incorporate Mac OSX in their iPad's. Although the premium would reach $1000 price tag, but some would be willing to pay it.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 23:26

45. technut (Posts: 52; Member since: 03 Aug 2012)


I totally agree that Apple will be forced to incorporate Mac OSX in their IPads. If they don't, they better be prepared for the consequences.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 19:45 1

31. yougotkilled1 (Posts: 167; Member since: 27 Apr 2011)


Windows 8 will be the serious competition to the iPad. I can see the windows 8 tablet being successful due for it being able to run full windows on it. That will be the key selling point for the tablet. Even though it's gonna be expensive, I believe the features will convince people (like me) that a tablet not being restricted by the OS will be worth the money. Nice article!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 20:11

35. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


i feel pity to apple if history will surely repeat... i mean they where the frist one who "innovate" the tech world and the rest just copy and those company go even beyond that.. but apple still works the same, looks the same feels the same...

win8 is one good OS for the tablet but not on PC..so i think apple's market share is threaten... android is still evolving to the tablet space...

there's actually a survey that people want an iDevice coz its a status symbol and elegant looking... but since apple's devices are supper expensive (a regular iphone, thre 16GB version cost $600 or php34000 in my place, an average person in my place earn that money for like 3-6months or even a year!...

but i wish apple wont be down though.... win8 is a revolutionary to microsoft's OS but seen some vids on youtube, its not that userfriendly... i'd rather choose a PlayBook or and android device..but i want a REAL tablet PC that can do a REAL task!!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 20:53 1

40. kombinatonz (Posts: 27; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


Apple has no chance. Remember everyone kindle fire was a huge success. Amazon launch another kindle in couple weeks. The market is turning around in favor for android, especially microsoft.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 21:08

41. rudlie (Posts: 182; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


kindle fire boom has passed. even new kindle fire will come, it only can force nexus 7 market.

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 00:30

47. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1099; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


Folks within 2 years there will be 2 types of tablet computers on the Market 1=The General Tablet and 2=The Tablet PC. If you want to do some serious Business Production work and run Windows Full size PC/Laptop software the you will buy a Microsoft Windows 8 Tablet PC like the Microsoft "Surface Pro". If you want to do the Other things tablets do like surf the Web for info, send and receive email, read Ebooks.Purchase items over the web, watch internet Sites based TV, movies and Video sites like youtube or play Games then a Person would best purchase a General Tablet Computer like the "Ipad" or Android tablets or the microsoft Surface RT. or any other of the Windows RT Tablets made by Microsoft OEMS. of the General Tablets the Apple Ipad will be the most sold because it has such a huge volume of Apps. The Android tablets will continue to sell and will work well. The Windows RT tablets 2 years from now will have enough of the Main Apps People want and like to make it a useful alternative to the Ipad. The Microsoft "Surface RT will still be around made by Microsoft to keep it Alive and kicking.

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 06:30

68. shuaibhere (Posts: 1538; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


I would love ubuntu to enter this game........
It can make more powerfull OS with a lot openness......
And it has every basic application to compete with windows....even it has best application for developers......
And ubuntu will run windows application too with the help of some softwares like wine......

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 06:30

69. shuaibhere (Posts: 1538; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


I would love ubuntu to enter this game........
It can make more powerfull OS with a lot openness......
And it has every basic application to compete with windows....even it has best application for developers......
And ubuntu will run windows application too with the help of some softwares like wine......

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 10:24

71. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2678; Member since: 26 May 2011)


That seems to be the plan with Ubuntu for Android. Definitely excited for that

posted on 01 Sep 2012, 18:30

74. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


i dont really get why people really hate iPad...

iPad will still share but it will be threaten if apple will still do the same marketing... windows tablets will be aggressive to market coz it will be offered cheaply... android might still have a share.. i dont know if it will still be on 7" coz iPad still dominate 9"-10" coz it is the iPad size...

you got your opinion, but it sound so pathetic that you always hate apple but still apple sells its iDevices..

but iPad will surely slow down... android will slow down too... and windows will rise and it might be hard for BlackBerry Playbook to comeback even they are way better than android tablets.. android tablets sells because of its apps and too many manufacturers that wanted an alternative to iPad...but iPad sells because of its apps, simplicity, easy to hold and support for students.. a lot of students really use iPad coz it really give a great job... an alternative to a notebook and to a book..but windows RT tablet will sell to students too.. but navigating around win8 is really a pain coz its new.. and the size of the tablets isnt really nice, iPad size is really the most standard---big and wide! thats why android devices dont really sell that much coz of its size and the one selling is the 7" size! a lot of user really like the screen size and ratio of the iPad...

so the answer of this question, yes, iPad's sale will be threaten if apple still use the same marketing strategy.. win8 will rise because of its office and a lot more windows goodies.. androids might not be selling hot on tablet but small tablet they will coz they are really nice for games and apps.. so the idea of the 7.8" iPad mini is quite relevant.. why? apple needs to do a marketing strategy that will put them on top on 7" tablet but wont hurt the iPod's sale! if they will throw 8GB on the (lets say) $249 model iPad mini they should put 16GB memory on the iPod touch at $199 so that the choices and its market wont hurt each other...

posted on 02 Sep 2012, 21:00

78. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)


i would say to be a fully capable tablet would put Windows at an advantage over the competition. one main gripe i hear a lot about tablets is that ppl cant get past the idea of it being a toy vs. a fully functional device. if Microsoft can offer a full computer-like experience in the portability/battery length of a tablet i'd say you have a big time player. that would bring those who doubt the productivity side of tablets into adopting tablets. a tablet that performs like tablets as we know them now as well as having all the computer capabilities we are use to is bound to be a bonified success. its the best of both worlds. i just cant wait to see one in action.

posted on 02 Sep 2012, 21:27

79. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


the Win8 is a REAL Tablet PC

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 00:18

80. SemperFiV12 (Posts: 813; Member since: 09 Nov 2010)


Possibly the best article I have read on PA. Great job!

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