CEO Chen says BlackBerry will introduce three high-end models for "keyboard aficionados"
0. phoneArena 28 Mar 2014, 09:12 posted on
Three new high-end BlackBerry models are on the way, according to the Canadian manufacturer's CEO, John Chen. The executive also reveled that these models are going to be designed for "keyboard aficionados," and will be introduced over the next 18 months. One of the three models could be the BlackBerry Q20, which was revealed last month at MWC...
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5. Mxyzptlk (limited) (Posts: 3510; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Anything rim does at this point = DOA
78. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Mxy, anything you do or say pure hater crap. Get a life, troll.
12. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4281; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
i loved my E71 more than any BB phones
20. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
I owned an E71 as well as an E72 and E63. I also owned an E90, which I still have to this day. Great devices, all.
2. ihavenoname (Posts: 1376; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
That Q20 seems intresting. 3,5 inch screen, QWERTY keyboard, touchpad and function keys.
3. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
3.5 inch screen? Wow. They should have went with a 4 inch screen. If people have to choose between bigger screen size or physical qwerty, most will go with the bigger screen. Throw in Swiftkey, there is no reason to buy a 3.5 inch screen with a physical QWERTY keyboard.
Blackberry is stuck in 2009.
6. Kriksis (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)
Your statement is not correct for everybody...
Me, for example, I am stuck (using your logic) in 2010, because my main phone is NOKIA E7, and I'm not in a hurry to change it as I personally prefer the physical keyboard over virtual keyboard...
13. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
If you believe that, then you truly don't know what the BlackBerry faithful want. The BlackBerry users who still use a keyboard BlackBerry device will be more than happy with that screen size. That's who this device is aimed at.
17. downphoenix (Posts: 2302; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
The Blackberry QWERTY phones are not portrait style phones, instead the screens tend to be square, or even wider than they are tall. Therefore, I doubt you can go much further than 3.5 inch without sacrificing ease of use one handed, since a 3.5in BB will probably get to about the same width as a standard phone in the 5.5in or so range. Plus, they are making regular Touchscreen phones as well, for those that want those. But most BB enthusiasts like having the keybaord.
28. fireblade (Posts: 693; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
physical keyboard is better than touchscreen keyboard. It gives less error
7. cncrim (Posts: 499; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
Lol, i smell further death road. No innovation.
14. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
The BB10 OS itself is quite innovative. And, judging by their quarterly numbers released today, the death of BlackBerry is greatly exaggerated. Their numbers have improved, and will only continue to do so.
18. Johnnokia (Posts: 512; Member since: 27 May 2012)
They only sold 1.3 Million phones im three months.
Most of them were the old legacy devices.
The hardware form only 37% from their lame revenue.
What do you want to call them as ''DEAD''?
They will be so irrelevant in universal phone market.
Please, stop it.
I love BlackBerry and I have 7 BB phones. Today I bought Bold 9780 from Walmart. BlackBerry is a great company. But, just face the truth.
Written from my amazing BB Z10.
22. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
There numbers have improved. Did you really pay attention to the earnings report? They sold 3.4 million units to end users. The hardware was only 37% because they are transitioning away from hardware and more towards software. Hence the Foxconn deal. They are moving towards services as well, or did you not notice that services made up 56% for them? They are moving AWAY from the "universal phone market" and back to focusing on enterprise and governments. John Chen has said this from the beginning when he took over. Or do you only pay attention to the "doom and gloom" news? And if you have that many BlackBerry phones, then you should a bit more faith in the company. Their latest numbers put them ahead a full quarter on Chens turn around plan. If you think the ship is still going down, feel free to jump overboard.
76. miles16852 (Posts: 206; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
what your smelling is your 1 week old underwear! now please change your underwear more frequently! and you wont smell yourself!
8. axllebeer (Posts: 265; Member since: 05 Apr 2011)
I could go a little bigger on my Q10, but too much and I will loose 1-handed ease of use. That's important to me.
26. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Thealphageek1 posted what the Blackberry faithful wants? It's not about the Blackberry faithful at this point. It's about get old Blackberry customer's to return and attracting new customers. If Blackberry wants to survive. Blackberry needs to think outside the box with their portrait qwerty phones. 3.5 inch screen will not attract new customers or get old customers to return. The Q10 was a great phone but did it stop customers from leaving for Android and IOS? No. Android has proven people want bigger phones.
31. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
It is what the BlackBerry faithful want. You haven't been paying attention to John Chens strategy. He is taking the same approach that the late Steve Jobs has when he first returned to Apple to boost them back up. He is focusing on his current installed user base. Those who are still using BBOS7 handsets and those still purchasing BBOS7 handsets. He needs to convert them to BB10 handsets first. His approach in ENTERPRISE is to move those from the old BlackBerry servers to the new BES 10 servers(and then BES 12). Enterprise and governments don't really care for or need large screened phones. They are to get work done, not play the latest games or watch YouTube videos on their handsets. After they shore up these users, they can focus on large screen phones for the consumer. They are, after all, focusing on the prosumer at this point. And, if I'm not mistaken, one of those keyboard phones is supposed to have a screen larger than four inches. I will provide the link if I can find it. And the Q10 wasn't aimed at new users. That was the Z10's job. The Q10 was aimed at current BlackBerry aficionados who love their keyboard. Hell, I currently own a Z10 and would rather use a Q10 myself, as I love that hardware keyboard.
32. Jommick (Posts: 198; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)
I think the new direction blackberry is heading in is good for them as a company. Appealing to their main customer base is a great foundation to build upon.
34. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Nobody really cares what you have to say. Begone, troll.
36. fzacek (Posts: 1623; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)
One of the last BlackBerry fanboys in his natural habitat; defending what's left of BlackBerry's crumbling market share...
37. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
....said the hating troll who really doesn't know a thing about BlackBerry beyond the sensationalist headlines on phone arena. You trolls are really a sad lot. I actually feel bad for you, as you have no life beyond trolling BlackBerry articles. Deep down inside, I think you love BlackBerry. Just admit it. It's ok...
77. miles16852 (Posts: 206; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
you would actually look like you have intelligence if you would close that hole in your mouth!
35. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Appealing to their main customers? Have you read Blackberry's earnings report? They are losing customers by the millions every month. The Q10 and Z10 were great pieces of hardware. But yet they didn't sell. Blackberry is sitting on over a billion dollars worth of Q10 and Z10 that they couldn't sell. Making phones that appeal to the loyalist is a sure fire way to end up out of business.
38. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Um....were you responding to me?
Anyway, where on earth did you see or hear that BlackBerry is sitting on over a billion dollars in BB10 hardware? Make up stories much?
And they are making phones that appeal to the enterprise and governments. If you were paying attention at all when JC took over BlackBerry, he said that was the direction they were going in. And with BlackBerry having more enterprise and government customers than any other mobile operator, I'd say that is EXACTLY the CORRECT direction the company should be headed in. It's what works for them, so why wouldn't they focus on enterprise and governments? BlackBerry can survive quite nicely doing that. After that, then they can focus on regaining ground in the consumer market. It's a sound plan. And, judging by the fact that their numbers have improved from last quarter, it's the correct course of action. But feel free to continue hating and thinking that BlackBerry is going out of business. I've been hearing that crap for over 3 years now. Still hasn't happened.
40. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Alpha dude. Blackberry numbers have not improved. They sold real estate they owned which made their numbers less bad. They only sold 1.1 million BB10 phones for the quarter. The rest were old BB7. For a person that claims to know Blackberry, how did you not know about the billion dollar hardware right off.
You want the back story on the right off. The last CEO made more Z10 and Q10 than demand needed and refused to cut production for months. You should try reading MarketWatch or the Street.com for your Blackberry financial news.
42. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
You're quoting stuff from 2013?! It's almost April of 2014! That's way old news! And that ALMOST Billion dollar write-off was Z10's, NOT Q10's. And that was done under the OLD regime, NOT John Chen! Under John Chen, expenses have DROPPED 29%. We are talking THIS QUARTER, not 2 Quarters ago. Please try to stay in the NOW. Stop bringing up LAST YEARS news to make the situation look worse than it already is. They even beat the streets estimated loss. Kindle dude, I check ALL RELEVANT NEWS sites on BlackBerry news. That's how I AM so informed. BlackBerry's number's quarter on quarter have improved. And for the record: I don't sugar coat anything. I am well aware of BlackBerry's uphill battle, but they are slowly turning the tide. I suggest YOU check out a few UNBIASED sites when getting your BlackBerry news. And try to get news that's up to date, please.
41. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
43. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Again: PLEASE find UP-TO-DATE NEWS. That's SEPTEMBER of LAST YEAR.
45. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Alpha Dude. So you're saying it did not happen? Google it for yourself. This happen last September when they were reporting their numbers for the quarter. Blackberry is taking a huge loss to write off inventory they can't sell.
Face it. You were wrong and you don't know squat about Blackberry's business. Stick to talking about phones.
50. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
How can I be the one saying that it didn't happen when I'M the one that told you it did happen and when? Read much? It says so in their LATEST Quarterly report. Had you bothered to read it, you would know this. It even says that their losses went down on THIS VERY SITE. "BlackBerry's losses go 100% down." but I guess your own bias towards BlackBerry is blinding you. Clearly you don't know s#!t about BlackBerry or about business on a whole, seeing as how you either can't read, don't understand what you read, or are just to biased against said company to care about reporting relevant, UP-TO-DATE facts. Stick to the kiddie sites, jr. You don't know squat about what you're saying, ESPECIALLY Phones.
46. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Tech Crunch is bias and MarketWatch is old, but it's still a billion dollars of phones Blackberry will take a loss on. Yes, there are Q10 in that billion dollar write off. Yeah, that's small potatoes to a business that's bleeding cash.
49. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
No, there were not Q10's in that write off. Tech Crunch IS biased against BlackBerry. Lots of these so called tech sites are. If you were not so blinded by your own bias, you'd see that. And like I said, OLD NEWS. It was less of a loss this quarter. Read BlackBerry's most CURRENT Quarterly report, and you will see that. My point is proven.
47. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Alpha dude. Clearly you have no clue about running a business. Writing down a billion dollars of your new products 6 months ago is relevant. Especially when your cash flow is negative like Blackberry.
Also, Marketwatch.Com is one of the top stock market sites. Marketwatch.com gives you the facts, and news on the stock market. But you probably know nothing about that.
48. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Of course I know about market watch. And I know more about running a business than you do, as I actually run one. But it doesn't change the facts that its OLD news that you're bringing up. You keep living in the past, you're bound to be buried by it. But you wouldn't know anything about that. And I know that BlackBerry's cash flow is still negative. My point is that they have lost LESS CASH than the previous quarter, which means that their cash position is improving. If you knew anything about running a business you would know that, Kindle dude.
51. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Clearly you nothing about running a business or you can't read, understand corporate earnings reports. Blackberry did 3 things to stop the bleeding over the past 6 months. They sold real
estate assets, laid off employees, along with the inventory right down. If you understand business, those are band-aids. It makes thing look better for a quarter or two, but the upcoming quarters, they are out of small band-aids. I would not be surprise they start selling patents next to raise cash. And people like you will see that as a win when you read the cash burn has slowed. Rookie.
BTW. I have a stupid user name on all of my portfolios. But at the button where the $$ is, pretty impressive.
52. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Clearly I do know about running a business. Was it wrong for them to sell real estate that they would no longer need to own so that they could increase cash? Not at all. But you would see it as wrong based purely on your bias towards BlackBerry. I do understand business. And in business, sometimes you have to things you may not want to today so that you will be in business tomorrow. But you wouldn't know anything about that, would you? And I highly doubt they will sell off patents to raise cash. I guarantee you that next quarter when their numbers are even better, you will still find some way to see it as a negative. Hater.
BTW, it really is a stupid user name. But, my $$ is pretty impressive as well.
53. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Um....were you responding to me?
Anyway, where on earth did you see or hear that BlackBerry is sitting on over a billion dollars in BB10 hardware? Make up stories much?
You're quoting stuff from 2013?! It's almost April of 2014! That's way old news! And that ALMOST Billion dollar write-off was Z10's, NOT Q10's.
How can I be the one saying that it didn't happen when I'M the one that told you it did happen and when? Read much?
Wow. How you flip flop much when you're wrong. I had to point that out to you.
55. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Where on earth did I "flip-flop" at? Get your eyes checked. Or learn how to read. But thanks for quoting me. Makes me feel special.
54. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
To prove you wrong again and to show you that you don't know jack about Blackberry's business. I posted a link that will show you Blackberry inventory at the end of last December. This will show you that you was wrong about the Q10 being apart of the write off. It's so amazing how people who write about Blackberry for a living are wrong, but you're right.
Q4+Dead+BlackBerry+Posts+44B+U SD+Loss+Only+Ships+19m+Phones/ article33974.htm
56. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Already read that LAST YEAR. Why are you constantly evading my point? I said show something from THIS YEAR that says that BlackBerry's number's are as bad as the previous quarter. And YOU CAN'T DO IT. You know why? Because their numbers that they just reported on are an IMPROVEMENT over the quarter before it. The numbers are there, plain and simple. Just READ IT. And NO WHERE in that report did it say that they are sitting on the amount of Q10's that you claim. For whatever reason, you don't like BlackBerry. That is fine. But don't manufacture information, saying that they are still sitting on the same amount of inventory since December of last year. That's a LIE. And their most recent numbers prove that. And don't be a fool. You know as well as I do that there are many sites that are biased against BlackBerry when it comes to reporting, and they will report FALSE INFORMATION. It's amazing the length you haters will go to, in an attempt to down a great company doing its all to get back on its feet. Go elsewhere, troll. I'm done with you.
57. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
You do understand that earning reports only come out every 3 months. The link I posted is from the last earnings report. Since Blackberry just posted earnings, no new breakdown is available yet. So you are wrong. If you can read, Blackberry at the end of their last earnings reports had stop production on all Blackberry 10 phones because they were sitting on 17 millions phones they can't sell. That means Q10. Flip that.
Face it. You don't know squat about their business. Alpha Flip Flopper.
61. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Still on mines? You don't know WHAT you're talking about. I do not converse with invalids. Begone, already.
58. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Alpha Dude. This will help you out. If you can read. I now realize that you don't understand how the stock market works. Every 3 months, companies report their earnings for the past quarter. Blackberry just reported their earnings report for the quarter. Which means the new numbers are just being made available.
I realize that you may not understand how the market works. But those were the last available inventory numbers. You are wrong again. I just like pointing it out.
It's funny how all these business news sites have it out for Blackberry. Why? Blackberry gets treated the same as any other stock. But you don't know that because you don't follow the stock market.
Apple sold 51 million iphones for the quarter and the market nailed them because they were projected to sell 55 million iphones. Does that mean every business news site hate Apple, No. That's just the way the stock market works.
Got that Alpha dude. If you can read.
62. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
I do know how the stock market works. I never said EVERY news site. Get your eyes checked or go take a remedial English class.
63. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
And no, BlackBerry does NOT get treated like every other stock. Anyone can see that. Except you, for some reason. I'm beginning to think you really can't read. But as I said, I'm done conversing with you. You're just like every other BlackBerry hater. Get over yourself already. You don't know SQUAT. And you proved it with constantly bringing up news from 2013. Inventory that they have since improved on. But you would know that if you could read. Now away with you.
59. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Alpha Flip Flopper. If you have 17 million unsold BB10 units at the end of the last earnings report in December, and you sell 1.1 million BB10 units in the current earnings period ending in March, how many unsold BB10 units does that leave you.
15.9 million unsold BB10 units. Do the math. And you say none of those are Q10? Duh.
60. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Didn't I tell you I was done with you? I proved my point already. Shoo fly, you're bothering me.
64. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Alpha Flip Flopper. Clearly you don't understand the stock market. If you did, you would understand that in the stock world, they compare your numbers from quarter to quarter, and year to year. Look at your post. You keep saying those are last year's number. But in the stock world those are the last 2 quarters numbers. Clearly you don't understand that by reading what you posted. In the stock world your numbers don't reset when you get a new CEO. But you want to give Chen a reset. How does that work in the stock world. Can you explain that.
Stop fronting Alpha Flip Flopper. You don't understand the stock market at all.
65. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Stop fronting??? Lmao!! Who says THAT anymore?! Wish you were "down" much? Lmao! You crack me up, assuming that I don't know the stock market when I actually do. I also know how to READ, unlike you, that's how I know that the numbers have improved. As I said before, THIS VERY SITE that you're on even has an article up saying so. You need me to provide you the link? I don't want to give anyone a "reset", I'm just stating FACTS. Something you're just too afraid to admit. So you need to "stop fronting" (that is TOO funny!), Kindle Fool, and stop pretending that you're not just some uneducated hater of all things BlackBerry. Or that you can even read for that matter. We can go at this all day, Kindle boy. You're never going to agree with me and I am certainly not going to agree with you. So as I said before: Shoo fly, you're bothering me.
66. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
And if you look at the numbers quarter on quarter, they HAVE improved. Thanks for proving my point.
67. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Alpha Flip Flop. Next time you post about Blackberry. Stick to talking about the 15.9 million BB10 phones they have in their inventory that nobody wants to buy. Because when it comes to the stock. You are clueless. "Last year's numbers". No. Last quarters numbers. Alpha Flip Flop.
69. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Next time I post about BlackBerry, I will post whatever I want. And there isn't a damn thing you can do about it, Kindle boy toy. You are brainless.
68. kindlefireowner (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Alpha Flip Flop. Here is the difference between you, a rookie that does not understand the stock market, and me, Kindlefireowner, a person that does understand the stock market.
You read what Chen said in that article that PA posted and your eyes get big like a school girl that just watched a Justin Bieber in concert. I read it and think , I've heard this before from other CEO's of drowning companies. Chen has to put out a positive spin because he knows he's going to have to raise capital in a few quarters or convince some company to buy this sinking ship. That's the difference between you Alpha fanboy and Kindlefireowner, an investor that understands the stock market.