BlackBerry's Chen clarifies comment; handset business is not being sold "anytime soon"
Chen wrote that he is not about to sell off the handset business "anytime soon" and that his focus is on making this part of the business a profitable one. But he also pointed out that the Canadian company is in other lines of business such as enterprise services, messaging and software. He added that BlackBerry is investing in Machine to Machine technology.
While Chen didn't mention BBM by name, the messaging app is being dressed up by BlackBerry to increase its value. Facebook's $19 billion bid for WhatsApp valued the latter at $42 per subscriber. With BBM available to BlackBerry, iOS, Android and eventually Windows Phone, each new BBM subscriber adds value to the app.
BlackBerry is not a handset-only company. We offer an end-to-end solution and devices are an important part of that equation. That’s why we’re complementing our Devices business with other revenue streams from enterprise services and software, to messaging. We’re also investing in emerging solutions such as Machine to Machine technologies that will help to power the backbone of the Internet of Things."-John Chen, CEO, BlackBerry
The CEO ended his post by saying that BlackBerry is not giving up and is not leaving the handset business any time soon, which is what he was trying to say with his original comment.
source: BlackBerry via BerryReview
3. dorian827 (Posts: 123; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
Blackberry well why not? With the dying Blackberry brand, poor market share and handset business it would be best to merge or sell your assets.
I have not yet seen an appealing Blackberry device that would make me switch from Windows Phone let alone Android or iOS.
Doesn't promise much specs, compatibility and with a lesser app market than Windows Phone, Google and Apple.
Id love them to do something with the current handset giants. Merge... or die.
11. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
1. The brand is dying about as much as Nokia & WP.
2. That's subjective and totally irrelevant. I have yet to see a compelling WP device period. Still playing catchup to the big boys. WP is a very small fish in an Ocean.
3. WP doesn't promise anything in terms of specs or features either. Merely copying what's already out there when they should have had it from the start.
4. BlackBerry doesn't need to merge with any other company to survive, but you can feel free to die whenever you like.
17. dorian827 (Posts: 123; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
1. The Windows Phone brand and Nokia has a larger share of market than Blackberry. Also provides a much more better experience and variety of devices.
2. Compelling Devices: Nokia Lumia 1520, Lumia 1020, Lumia 930, Lumia 630. Windows Phone has caught up by reaching a wider market.
3. Hows it copying and yet everyday Android releases and re releases devices with the same or similar specs. Nokia Lumia and X series only gets better with a bigger selection.
How long did it take Android and IOS to get where they are?
4. Blackberry is dying and they have such a poor outreach. Just facts buddy.
20. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Another fool I see...
1. Not world wide they don't. BBM by itself is larger than all of WP.
2. Caught up to who?? What the entirety of WP sells, a single Galaxy S handset sells in one quarter.
3. Playing catchup isn't getting better. The Nokia X is pathetic and sends a clear sign to M$ that WP is failing when their largest vendor produces handsets using the competitions platform.
4. A lot faster than WP ever will. WP will never pass 10% world wide market share. NEVER.
5. BlackBerry will be here long after Nokia is chopped up for spare parts by M$.
24. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Even WhatsApp is larger on its own than the entire iOS ecosystem. That doesn't mean that iOS or Apple are irrelevant. You are found on most WP articles trolling WP. Now don't cry if someone trolls your fav OS/company.
You shall receive what you give.
26. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
I don't troll WP. Try again.
And Blackberry is nowhere near my favorite OS. Android is.
28. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Then why did you bring WP up here on a BB related article? You are a big time troll. Go and enjoy your phone, and let others enjoy theirs.
31. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Why are trolls coming here to bash Blackberry by saying WP has better handsets?
I didn't bring WP into it. But I'll sure drag them through the mud.
35. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Android may be my favorite OS, but I will strongly support any OS that is good. BlackBerry 10/QNX is that good.
But most people I see here on PA come along and troll BB articles and I'm just tired of seeing it. So I toll them. Let them know how it feels.
It also doesn't help that PA is also a site dedicated to trolling BlackBerry and Alan F is the head troll in that department.
37. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
I respect BB. Its a legendary company. However, the OS that is gaining more traction will be the one most often reported about. Unfortunately, BB10 isn't getting enough traction at the moment. That's not to say, its bad, its a great OS. But it doesn't have the backing of developers and the consumers alike. Hence, PA don't post much about it. Even WP till recently wasn't much concentrated on by PA.
45. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
PA posts about BlackBerry plenty. They just post all negative news or mostly negative news about Blackberry, often getting their facts dead wrong.
Its a shame too. I thought journalists or media were supposed to have integrity and not show bias when reporting?
PA, especially Alan F, as no integrity and is completely biased against BB. Why PA continues to let him troll BlackBerry in his articles says a lot about PA. And none of it is good.
43. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
You talk about letting people enjoy their phones and yet you bash BlackBerry phones? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Begone, troll.
46. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Did you read the entire comment? I didn't bash any BB phone here.
25. dorian827 (Posts: 123; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
1. I know no one personally that uses BBM. That shows it has a poor reach especially competing with WhatsApps, SMS, TextPlus, etc.
2. Windows Phone is catching up especially having (1) main manufacture Nokia in comparison to Android's 10+ manufactures. Android wasn't always thee best neither iOS.
3. Expanding your platform is not losing thats called expanding profit and popularity. If you owned a business wouldn't you want to reach a broader market or be simple minded ?
4. I know you might be a prophet but im certain this is among Blackberry and Windows Phone platforms. I know for sure Windows Phone will exceed and already exceed Blackberry market share.
5. Blackberry might still exist but barely existing. Thats called losing and lacking appeal to consumers and business owners. Id much more have Microsoft own Nokia. Its a leading and successful software GIANT. Im sure they will prevail.
29. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
1. I don't know anyone using WP. Doesn't mean there aren't idiots out there like you using it now does it. Your logic here is flawed.
2. WP is not catching up. Maybe to Firefox, but not anyone else.
3. Saying WP is catching up is like me asking you about Oceans and you start talking about The Great Lakes.
4. But they're not expanding WP's market share by using Android. No matter how forked it is. No one is going to go from a Nokia X and by a Lumia. They're going to upgrade to the real deal Android handset.
5. I'm certain it may not. Time will tell.
6. M$ is the joke of mobile right along with WP. Nokia is the joke of businesses. Tales will long be told of how the once mighty Nokia opened its arms to that Trojan Horse and had their company destroyed from the inside, as a warning to businessmen in training. The LARGEST FINANCIAL COLLAPSE of ANY BUSINESS in HISTORY. And then you still run open arms spread wide to the same company that engineered your downfall? Yeah... I'd really trust that company to still be around with such brilliant people at the helm.
34. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
So you try running a company having struggle to gain traction? Back in 2011, there was no guarantee that Nokia would succeed with Android. I'd rather have MS swallow Nokia than a greedy and non-innovative company like Google do.
Whether you agree or you don't, WP is growing, stealing the second spot from iOS in 25 countries. Your opinion does not matter to any WP fan or user. So good bye.
38. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
I never thought nor said Nokia should have switched to Android. Quite the contrary, Nokia should have stayed the course. Even back in 2011, Nokia had more than double the market share it had now. What they should have done is:
1. Stay the course. Keep pushing Meego as the high-end and push Symbian down to the midrange and low-end. The N9 and N950 were LOVED by the media. Nokia had the iPhone killer before Android got so big. But instead, they blew it. Chopped off their own noses to spite themselves and let Elop in.
2. They should NEVER had let Elop in. He destroyed the company with a single memo and handed M$'s main rival from back in the Windows Mobile days to Balmer on a silver platter.
3. No matter how you WP and Nokia fanboys try to rationalize, WP and Nokia are dead in the water. Gong from selling 7.8 million to 8 million handsets isn't a real gain dude. Blackberry is DOA just as much as Nokia and WP.
57. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
"Stealing the second spot from iOS in 25 countries".
25 countries that iOS doesn't really compete in! Wow...thats a great accomplishment....NOT.
60. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
That isn't Nokia's fault. WP is second in the third largest smartphone market, India. If Apple can't be relevant here, it's Apple's fault, and WP's gain.
67. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Apple is not relevant in those markets(mainly emerging ones) because they CHOOSE not to be. The iPhone, and Apple products in general, are mostly made to cater to "high end" clientele. Windows doesn't have any real traction on the high end.
92. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
113 million people use BBM. That's more than WP entire installed user base.
97. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
450 million use WhatsApp. Around 350 million iOS devices sold to date. You seriously are comparing an APP to an ecosystem?
114. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
When it comes to WP, yes! BBM is beginning to have its own ecosystem.
120. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
You're the biggest fool as far as I see. Even WhatsApp is larger than iOS itself. So does it mean iOS devices aren't popular or don't sell well? Keep you stupid, good for nothing biased BS to yourself.
47. alterecho (Posts: 1059; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
WP is ONLY because of Nokia. Left alone it would have been dead, a year back. Just like Microsoft Kin1 and Kin2.
51. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
And Android is only mainstream cuz of Samsung. Remove them and you have a bunch of cheap Chinese and Indian companies making super cheap phones. And a few top level companies who are struggling to gain traction.
62. alterecho (Posts: 1059; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
Bringing up Android when I didn't wasn't commenting about. /facepalm.
But for the record, Android doesn't need Samsung for it to be successful, since the OS is good on its own. WP,on the other hand, NEEDS Nokia to survive. Spin it however you want, but that is the fact.
63. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Spin it however YOU want, Android is nothing without Samsung.
112. alterecho (Posts: 1059; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
People get excited for release of Sony/HTC/LG/etc... flagships. Not just Samsung.
Thats not the case with WP. People only notice if there is a Nokia flagship (Other OEMs don't even come out with WP flagships anymore, since they know WP is uninteresting and marketshare is low).
122. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Getting excited and actual buying the phones are two different stories.
128. alterecho (Posts: 1059; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
To you (and rest of WP fans), maybe. I'm talking about the fact that Samsung isn't the reason Android has its marketshare.
Let me explain how it works. When people show interest in another OEM of a mobile operating system, other than the one, leading OEM, it means that the customers are okay with the OS and are ready to switch to another OEM, if they so desire.
It also means both the customers and OEMs have accepted the OS.
You can't, on the other hand, say the same for WP. People aren't going to buy a WP handset from another manufacturer, like say HTC or Samsung. They don't even remember if they have a flagship WP.
I've seen several people ping pong between different Android OEMs. And i've also seen people ditch WP quickly.
68. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Wrong about that one. When Android first became the dominant OS it wasn't because of Samsung. It was the two pronged assault of:
1. HTC and the EVO. That is the original rock star of Android and one of the handsets that helped propel them to the top. The other is:
2. The Motorola Droid. The OG. With its iPhone mashing commercials and specs, it too helped propel Android to the top. Samsung didn't really become famous with Android until the Galaxy S2.
3. Its not Androids fault that so many OEM's prefer it to WP. Probably a main reason is because of the @SS raping prices M$ was charging OEM's to use it while offering them no control over it until recently.
19. Manti123 (Posts: 104; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)
Nokia market share is 60 times greater than your berry.
Blackberry sold only 3.4 m latest quarter most of them were BB7.
Congrats to your DOA BB10.
21. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
And how much did WP sell? Now compare that to real platforms like Android. Then go kill yourself.
23. Manti123 (Posts: 104; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)
My favorite platform is Android and my phone is the great Xperia Z1.
But, WP is million times better than the crapyberry.
OMG, are still there people using blackberry?? really ?
27. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Mine is also Android and I use the even greater G2.
49. alterecho (Posts: 1059; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)
"But, WP is million times better than the crapyberry."
You've not used WP then.
76. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
About 11 million WPs were sold in all last quarter, and about 8 million Lumias. More than double of what BB could manage to.
55. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
4. Lt.Green (Posts: 319; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
If the Z3 is priced reasonably, I'd get one just to give support.
9. Manti123 (Posts: 104; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)
Buy Motorola G or Lumia 520 or even Nokia XL.
Those are billion times better than this crappy so called Blackbeery
18. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Go away troll. You're boring now.
52. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
No, they're not. I bet you haven't even used a BB10 device before, ignorant troll.
98. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Even the Nokia Asha line up sells more than BB. lol
102. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
Nokia Asha sales are falling also. And I guarantee once the MS deal goes through, its bye-bye Asha line!
And see what you did there? That's called TROLLING. You posted that comment with nothing positive to say, nor is it relevant to the topic of the article.
Hence, you're a TROLL. Thank you for proving me right, idiot.
30. Zenzui (Posts: 66; Member since: 13 Feb 2012)
"We’re also investing in emerging solutions such as Machine to Machine technologies that will help to power the backbone of the Internet of Things"
This statement is new and looks promising. I hope BB do have more ideas to be part of the current technology changes. Good luck to you Chen.
61. jellmoo (Posts: 626; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
I really like the way Chen handles himself. The old BB management were never realistic nor did they offer anything of substance. Chen has a strong vision, and only time will tell if it can be effective.
BB10 is a very strong platform, but BB has not been able to execute anything properly with it. With any luck, the partnership with Foxconn will let them better position themselves as a services and solutions company, where BB handsets are a strong prosumer contribution.
65. mihulsingh (Posts: 6; Member since: 05 Mar 2014)
I just don't understand why the hell people want to come and write crappy stuff on any of the posts, I mean like, keep your negative stuff to yourselves and stop trolling around, this area is meant for discussions, why do people want to waste their time in writing negative stuff about other brands ?
If you hate it so much then why bother to even open the post ?
If there was some post that I'd hate, I'd be like "Nothing to do here!".
73. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Exactly! For example...
I HATE CR@PPL3 and iOS. Passionately. So what do I do when I see iOS and CR@PPL3 related articles? ... I pass them right on by. Don't even give them a seconds glance.
77. AfterShock (Posts: 2157; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Struggle they may, but I doubt they'll go anywhere other then back in the race.
With a new CEO that isn't over promising an more devices rolling out, they've got a decent shot of hanging with the rest.
BB needs a home run, when they do get one, it'll be a strong upsurge I bet.
At least you have some control over the phone an its usage, not forced tiles or icons, win-win.
Go hard BB.
A Nexi guy, with hopes for others.
78. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Trust me, you are anything but a guy with "hopes for others".
79. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 2681; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Lol nokia fanboys(masked as so called windows phone fans) are getting ridiculous.
80. AfterShock (Posts: 2157; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
WP shills are the worst.
Lowered expectations is what comes to mind when I read diatribe from the likes you an other shills.
83. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Fandroids are the worst. They must poke their noses in every article. Stupid hypocrites.
84. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 2681; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
Actually kudos to you die hard nokia fanboys. You saved nokia from dying. 2011 WP7, Android dominating. But for nokia just for nokia you people compromised and swallowed that ugly os and got converted into wp fanboys. This is the true story but you wont accept it. Oh yeah also saved ms and their ill fated WP LOL.
88. NokiaFTW (Posts: 1719; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
I love WP for what it is, and not just cuz of Nokia. As a matter of fact, I'm waiting for a compelling WP from HTC or Samsung, and then I'm gonna ditch by Lumia for that. We support our company for what it is,but I support WP for itself. I know it, experts know it, WP is a different looking OS and doesn't use the antiquated icons for displaying info. It is the hottest thing on the market right now. Sure, at this moment you may troll it cuz it is nothing compared to Android. But in a few years time, see people just mindlessly flocking to WP and then we'll talk.