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BlackBerry wins two Govies awards for outstanding security

0. phoneArena 03 May 2014, 20:37 posted on

BlackBerry might never win an Academy Award or an Emmy (despite a great performance as supporting smartphone on CBS' Blue Bloods), but it was recently awarded two Govies Government Security Awards. One was awarded to the Canadian firm for Data Security thanks to the BlackBerry Enterprise Service (BES10) MDM The second award was for Access Control thanks to the iOS and Android apps Secure Work Space for BES10...

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posted on 03 May 2014, 20:42 8

1. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3211; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


There's no denying they have good security. What they lack is a capable flagship to compete. I don't think an award like this is going to move products.

posted on 03 May 2014, 21:33 6

5. alterecho (Posts: 1052; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


I've been using BlackBerry for over a week
.. Z10 to be specific.
I can safely say that it is one of the best smartphones I've EVER used. It's just simply outstanding!
Both Android and iOS users are going to love it.

I'll evaluate it more and reveal the faults as I find it.

posted on 03 May 2014, 22:17 2

14. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5042; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


I just want to see their upcoming flagship Z50, they really need to release it now before it's too late.

posted on 03 May 2014, 23:36 1

17. alterecho (Posts: 1052; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


Yes, but, from what I've observed in the Z10, they don't need to rush out a product.

posted on 04 May 2014, 04:22 2

23. Finalflash (Posts: 1418; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


They're idiotic though, the OS needs some getting used to and they aren't nearly spreading the word enough about how to get basically flowing through it. If they advertise how to use the OS, people trying them in store wouldn't feel lost (I did when I tried it). The OS and devices are perfectly good but the previous management sunk the ship.

posted on 04 May 2014, 09:38 2

26. theITguy (Posts: 1; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


Z10 feels old, if you really want to experience BB10 try getting your hands on a Z30. Hands down the best phone i ever used.

posted on 03 May 2014, 22:31 1

16. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5523; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


This is probably the only time I have agreed with you. +1.

posted on 04 May 2014, 02:45

21. 0xFFFF (Posts: 1989; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


There really isn't any mobile device that has good security. The BlackBerry is probably better than the run of the mill stock-OS Android phone, but still needs some improvements. Below is just a partial list.

BlackBerry 10.1 Significant Risks

The following key risks should be read and understood before the platform is deployed.

-- The VPN has not been independently assured to Foundation Grade, and does not support some of the mandatory requirements expected from assured VPNs. Without assurance in the VPN there is a risk that data transiting from the device could be compromised.

-- The device’s native data encryption has not been independently assured to Foundation Grade, and does not support some of the mandatory requirements expected from assured full disk encryption products. Without assurance there is a risk that data stored on the device could be compromised.

-- Encryption keys protecting sensitive data in the corporate perimeter remain in device memory when the device is locked. This means that if the device is attacked while powered on and locked, keys and data on the device may be compromised without the attacker needing to know the password.

-- BlackBerry 10.1 does not use any dedicated hardware to protect its keys. If an attacker can get physical access to the device, they can extract password hashes and perform an offline brute-force attack to recover the encryption password.

-- The personal perimeter of the device cannot be managed by the enterprise, meaning that the attack surface cannot be minimised by disabling external interfaces such as Bluetooth and NFC.

-- Traffic from the personal perimeter will also bypass the enterprise VPN, negating any protections granted by corporate monitoring and filtering solutions. To avoid this for non-Wi-Fi communications, a private Access Point Name (APN) could be procured from a chosen cellular carrier and assigned to accounts using BlackBerry Balance.

-- Arbitrary applications can be installed from BlackBerry World which will run on the device. Whilst mechanisms in BlackBerry World attempt to detect and remove malicious code, and the operating system should protect enterprise data from the application, an installed application will be able to access data stored on the personal partition, and may be able to attack the boundary between the two partitions on the device if a vulnerability exists there, potentially compromising corporate data.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/end-user-devices-security-guidance-blackberry-101-emm-corporate/end-user-devices-security-guidance-blackberry-101-emm-corporate

posted on 04 May 2014, 05:56

25. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5523; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


The risks above are non-trivial. Out of curiosity, how does BBOS 7.# (highest version like what VZW is supporting) score? Depending on the answer, that might explain why more BBOS 7 devices are selling than BBOS 10 ones.

posted on 04 May 2014, 12:21

33. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


Nah, most BlackBerry fans that are still carrying BBOS devices as opposed to BB10 devices carry them because they are looking for a device that's almost identical to the Bold. They miss the "toolbelt" (that strip of hardware send, end, etc. keys) that the bold has. I believe we will see a mass exodus of BBOS devices to BB10 devices once the Q20 debuts.

posted on 04 May 2014, 13:47

34. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5523; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


"I believe we will see a mass exodus of BBOS devices to BB10 devices once the Q20 debuts."

The device that has had its release put off until end-of-year 2014? And that BB has re-started production of the Bold 99## devices to keep sales going until the 'replacement' for the 99## starts to ship (at end-of-year 2014)?

Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, there is a UI hurdle with BBOS 10 that is resulting in reduced sales of BB handsets powered by BBOS 10.

posted on 04 May 2014, 21:42 1

36. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


"Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, there is a UI hurdle BBOS 10 that is resulting in reduced sales of BB handsets powered by BBOS 10."

First: BBOS is BlackBerry's legacy OS (7.xx and lower). BB10 is the name of the new OS, not BBOS 10.

Second: you say this as if there is not a learning curve with any OS. People coming from, say, an iPhone to an Android phone will experience a learning curve as its two totally different OS'S, much like BB10 And BBOS.

Third: are you a BlackBerry user? Thought not. I can tell you from EXPERIENCE that the learning curve is not that great at all. There have been surveys taken on BlackBerry centric sites about this, and most BlackBerry fans want a BlackBerry 10 smartphone reminiscent of the BlackBerry Bold with BB10 running it. They miss the hardware toolbelt. They are keeping the BBOS Bold going as a "placeholder" until the release of the Q20, and BlackBerry fans will wait for it.

Let's you and I revisit this at the end of the year, and I guarantee you that you will see the BBOS holdouts moving to the Q20.

posted on 05 May 2014, 22:29

43. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5523; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


"...are you a BlackBerry user? Thought not."

Wrong. I was a BlackBerry user. My last 'Berry was a Bold 9930 with BBOS 7. whatever (VZW edition). The 9930 was my work-issued phone. I had moved my personal phone to Android with the Droid X back in 2010. I can tell you from EXPERIENCE that the learning curve between BBOS 10 and BBOS 7 is significant. Enough for me to put the new phones back on the counter at the VZW store each time I visit.

10.2 was supposed to be this great new OS. Not from an ease of use perspective.

Maybe BB will get it right when they release the Q20 (or whatever it will be called) with the 'legacy' buttons along the bottom of the display like what is in place for the Bold 9930. But for now, calling the UI opaque is being charitable.

There is a reason BB has re-started the production line for the Bold 99##.

posted on 06 May 2014, 04:13 1

46. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


Anyone who has hard time transitioning from a BBOS device to a BB10 device should not be using a smartphone, IMO. The learning curve IS NOT difficult. There is even a TUTORIAL at the very beginning of all BB10 handsets, right as you are setting up the phone. How much more simple can you get? You put the new phones back on the counter, you chose Android. And the learning curve from a BBOS handset to an Android device wasn't significant? Of course it was. The learning curve between BBOS and BB10 is no more difficult than the learning curve from BBOS to Android. And that's a FACT. I'm suspecting that you were like many others and gave into the hype machine of Android.

The ONLY REASON that there are so many holdouts from BBOS is because of the hardware toolbelt and track pad. BB10 is opaque? No more than Android, my friend. And the 10.2 update was never designed to create "ease of use". It was designed to add more features, which it did in spades, and it was designed to add more productivity. The Bold line was restarted to appease the BBOS holdouts and prevent them from jumping ship before the release of the Q20, or BlackBerry Classic as it is also called. As I said before, there will be a mass exodus from BBOS to BB10 once the Q20 Classic is released, mark my words.

And you really should pick up a BB10 device and give it more than a 20 minute shot. This OS is AMAZING, and on par or greater than anything on the market today.

posted on 04 May 2014, 12:08 1

29. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


The risk that you listed are of no consequence now OxFFF, as BlackBerry is now on 10.2.1.

posted on 04 May 2014, 12:02 1

27. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


The BlackBerry Z30 is more than capable of competing with today's crop of smartphones. And an award like this will definitely help them move product, Mxy. If not in the consumer market, but definitely in the enterprise, government and security markets. That's what an award like this is aimed at anyway.

Even the Z10 and Q10 are more than capable of competing. The OS is just that good.

posted on 04 May 2014, 12:15 1

32. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


Also, how can you (or anyone) say that the current crop of BlackBerry 10 handsets can't compete when their specs are better than that other fruit flavored handset that's out? If BlackBerry can't compete with their specs, then you MUST say that the iPhone can't compete, Mxy.

posted on 03 May 2014, 20:51 5

2. FriendsOfSamsung (unregistered)


Do BlackBerry still sell?

posted on 03 May 2014, 21:44 7

8. Miracles (Posts: 456; Member since: 31 Aug 2013)


Typical Samsung bully. Yes it still sells.

posted on 03 May 2014, 22:07 4

11. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5042; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


He's not even a bully, he's just a ignorant retardy.

posted on 04 May 2014, 00:30 1

18. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5523; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


They have what, about a 0.4 percent market share in the U.S. these days? That is rounding error for even MS at this point.

posted on 04 May 2014, 02:30 3

19. DigitalJedi_X (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 27 Apr 2014)


It's Samsung fanboys like you that make me hate Samsung. I mean, I love Android but dam!... There are other OS's out there. Good ones. BB10 is one of them. In fact, IMO, Android and BB10 are the two best OS's on the market today. Once BlackBerry leverages the fact that BB10 is actually QNX, it's going to get very interesting.

posted on 04 May 2014, 04:44 1

24. Zeeya (Posts: 162; Member since: 17 Mar 2013)


Shut up Meg!

posted on 04 May 2014, 12:06 1

28. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


Of course they still sell, FriendOfCrapsung. Go play with your plastic phone, troll.

posted on 03 May 2014, 21:18 3

3. AJagtiani (Posts: 357; Member since: 24 Apr 2014)


What's a BlackBerry?

posted on 03 May 2014, 22:10 4

12. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5042; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


A phone manufacturer, that was one of the kings long time ago. Wait, if you don't know that, then why you're here? Oh well, can't blame a newborn baby, you should ask your grandpa if you want to know more.

posted on 04 May 2014, 12:09

30. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


What's a AJagtiani?

posted on 03 May 2014, 21:22

4. KillerKeyboard (Posts: 302; Member since: 21 Nov 2013)


They need it.

posted on 03 May 2014, 21:42 2

6. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


In all honesty...with security being their best selling point....companies should always use BB. I wouldnt want to switch to WP, iPhone or Android if I ran a business, especially if sensitive data, info is part of my job.

posted on 03 May 2014, 21:42 3

7. Gawain (Posts: 341; Member since: 15 Apr 2010)


Where's 0xFFFF to announce that BlackBerry is nothing more than lackeys for socially injust NSA that gives a false sense of security and that their every bowel movement is monitored?

posted on 03 May 2014, 21:44 3

9. Miracles (Posts: 456; Member since: 31 Aug 2013)


I like u.

posted on 04 May 2014, 02:38

20. 0xFFFF (Posts: 1989; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


Did I hear someone use the 0xFFFF bat code? I am hard at work, busy typing away on my BlackBerry using FB Messenger, that I've identified certain PhoneArena users that are possible undercover Al-Qaeda operatives :)

https://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/136854/?countrycode=US&lang=en

Trust is a dirty word :)

posted on 03 May 2014, 22:01 1

10. mturby (Posts: 214; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)


bb gives its faithful customers what ios or android cant..security...learn from that google...ps android owner.

posted on 03 May 2014, 22:24 2

15. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


They are learning.....was informed by a post on here that Chrome is/was one of the hardest browsers to hack. Had been for multiple years until recently. Even then its still hard to hack.

That could be a plus to having, using Chrome on Android phones.

Might not be at the level BB is secure...but its a start.

posted on 03 May 2014, 22:14 4

13. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5042; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


No doubt Blackberry has the best security, good job BB!

posted on 04 May 2014, 03:27

22. JaroB (Posts: 38; Member since: 13 Feb 2013)


good...

posted on 04 May 2014, 12:12 2

31. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


This is great news for BlackBerry, and definitely expected when you have the most secure device in the business. Keep up the good work, BlackBerry!

posted on 04 May 2014, 14:42 1

35. donfem (Posts: 515; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


Great news for BB. I have aways supported the company by buying its devices and proudly still carry one.

posted on 04 May 2014, 22:54 1

37. apiskula (Posts: 534; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


Wow BlackBerry I am sure the phones will really sell now... Not

posted on 05 May 2014, 03:57 1

38. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


Still feeling butthurt, Apiskula? It must really make you angry that the platform you secretly envy is winning awards. Why don't you just admit your secret admiration for BlackBerry? I mean, that has to be the reason why you wake up every morning and troll each and every BlackBerry article. And despite all of your negativity, BlackBerry still manages to survive. Give it up already, Apiskula. Your rhetoric is getting really old. Find something new to do with your life.

posted on 05 May 2014, 17:21 1

39. ablopez (Posts: 85; Member since: 15 Apr 2014)


I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think apiskula kind of has a point. I was trying to purchase the Z30 over the weekend, and this is what I have encountered:
1. I keep getting outbid on ebay
2. None of the Verizon stores carry the Z30 in their stores. (I don't really want to give Verizon any more money than I have to, but I called just to see if they have them in stock anyway.)
3. I called other retailers such as Costco, Radio Shack and Best Buy, and none of them carry the Z30 in their stores.
4. The black version is on backorder on the Blackberry website.

How can Blackberry sell this phone if they're making it hard for a regular consumer like me to get one? Verizon must either be pushing all the other brands first, or Blackberry is doing a poor job of marketing their flagship phone.

posted on 05 May 2014, 22:18 1

40. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


The fact that you can't get the phone in a Verizon store has nothing to do with BlackBerry. Most, if not all, US carriers no longer carry BlackBerry's in house. You have to order them online. The only US carrier that sells the Z30 is Verizon, so if they're only selling them online, then the big box retailers will follow suit.

The fact that the black one is in backorder is a testament to its selling strength.

posted on 05 May 2014, 22:23 1

41. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


The fact that you keep getting outbid on ebay is a testament to its selling strength and to how popular it is. Try online ordering from any one of the places you went to. Or order from gsmnation.com.

When you agree with the trolls like Apiskula, you're feeding them. Please, don't feed the trolls. It's against company policy. And he has an irrational hate of all things BlackBerry. Personally, I think he envies BlackBerry. He wants to be a member of #TeamBlackBerry so bad, but he just doesn't qualify.

posted on 06 May 2014, 00:36 1

45. ablopez (Posts: 85; Member since: 15 Apr 2014)


Got it. Never again! :)

posted on 05 May 2014, 22:24

42. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


You can also order online straight from BlackBerry's website, or from places like shopcrackberry.com.

posted on 06 May 2014, 00:35 1

44. ablopez (Posts: 85; Member since: 15 Apr 2014)


Yup, that's what I ended up doing. Just ordered two white ones for me and the wife. Thanks for the tips! I'll let you know how it goes when I receive them.

posted on 06 May 2014, 04:17

47. thealphageek1 (banned) (Posts: 942; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)


That's great! You and your wife are really going to enjoy it!

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