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BlackBerry services have returned, for now

0. phoneArena posted on 12 Oct 2011, 20:31

BlackBerry users have had to deal with a lot of frustration over the last few days but as of now the BlackBerry services such as BBM and e-mail have indeed returned, hopefully for good…

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1. msa1988 posted on 12 Oct 2011, 20:48 3 1

What's a BlackBerry?

12. 4i2 (unregistered) posted on 13 Oct 2011, 03:25 1

its a fruit that grows on trees

13. Thump3rDX17 posted on 13 Oct 2011, 03:34

Blackberries grow on Bushes. xD

2. Thump3rDX17 posted on 12 Oct 2011, 21:02 1 1

Blackberries may be quite secure but they're not really reliable. xD

3. Droid_X_Doug posted on 12 Oct 2011, 21:35 1 1

Are they really secure? They don't seem to be very secure from forensic software....

4. Thump3rDX17 posted on 12 Oct 2011, 22:03 1

apparently Enterprise Users seem to think so.

8. noberry (unregistered) posted on 13 Oct 2011, 00:03 1

because they were didn't know that andoir, iphone, nokia could do better than bb.

On a side note, this whole drama is could only happened to bb that stupid enough to redirect everying to their server.

With nokia, andoird, ipone you won't ever lose the ability to internet (web browse) at all.

11. hepresearch (unregistered) posted on 13 Oct 2011, 03:04

This is what happens when you market triple-DES as the latest, greatest, and strongest encryption... even though you've been using it for a decade already, and many other servers and networks have moved on to AES...

14. greenroboto (unregistered) posted on 13 Oct 2011, 06:06

and what's for??

for encrypting a teenager chat about how cool the boy sit in the corner?? or for encrypting a chat about how cute the girl next door???

the point here is...
BB AOL-like infrastructure is as fragile as an egg.
and it's need to evolve using ordinary GPRS/3G instead of specialized stupid bb services.

15. hepresearch (unregistered) posted on 13 Oct 2011, 21:11

What do you mean by "AOL-like"?

3G/4G services are run on all-IP subsystems... it is almost entirely "cloud-integrated" right out of the box. 2G/3G/4G underlies the BlackBerry system... it has to. Every other major OS will be doing the same thing soon (iCloud, SkyDrive, virtual Java engines, etc...), if they are not already.

If some kid is texting on their BlackBerry, then they could be using the triple-DES encryption, as well as whatever standard encryption the native network offers (64-bit A5/1 or 128-bit A5/3 for GSM/UMTS, 128-bit CAVE + 42-bit P-RN for CDMA/Ev-DO). If you think this is a terrible waste of encryption effort, then what do you think about the same kid texting on their EVO 4G, over WiMAX, which uses the Rijndael-based 256-bit AES? I suppose that is an even bigger waste of encryption in your example... but the deal is that it comes standard with the network.

My point is that the encryption is there because customers demand good encryption in general... they don't want to be eavesdropped on... and that the all-IP subsystems are subject to the same weakness that the BlackBerry servers are subject to... the problem for BlackBerry is that a) their secondary encryption method is weak and outdated, so the server on their end is more susceptible to being compromised, and b) they are subject to double jeopardy for server failure... if the network goes down, they go down... if the BlackBerry server goes down, they also go down. Everyone else relies on the native network... BB relies on both the native network and their own servers, simultaneously. Twice the data handling steps... at least twice the risk of failure or decryption compromise...

5. ANURAg jain (unregistered) posted on 12 Oct 2011, 22:49

The services in india are restored since mid night...everything seems to workin smoothly jus like before & about ditching blackberry...its next to impossible for a guy like ME, who is constantly in touch with his boss!!

7. noberry (unregistered) posted on 13 Oct 2011, 00:00

you can tell you boss to change to nokia, iphone, android and use whats app.

6. DKMDROID posted on 12 Oct 2011, 23:10 1 1

sad how people actually give a damn about a prehistoric product ...

9. noberry (unregistered) posted on 13 Oct 2011, 00:05 1

i really hope this whole drama could open their eyes.

10. ChiX017 (unregistered) posted on 13 Oct 2011, 00:30 1 1

iMessage!!

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