BlackBerry road map calls for the BlackBerry A10, the most powerful 'Berry yet
0. phoneArena 10 Jul 2013, 19:31 posted on
Earlier this year, BlackBerry CEO Thorsten Heins alluded to a high end BlackBerry model for the holidays that made him excited; that smile might be now replaced with a nervous grin. The BlackBerry A10, code named the Aristo, was first brought to our attention last October. Now, it has popped up on a BlackBerry road map and could be CEO Thorsten Heins' last chance to show that BlackBerry can compete with the iOS/Android duopoly...
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1. FlushGordon (unregistered)
Heins looks like he's about to commit suicide in that pic
11. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
Not sure if thats something to joke about...
29. cam-whore (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
and your face in that pic would make anyone you come across want to commit suicide. Stop joking about suicide, just shows you either had a bad childhood or currently having a pathetic life...
39. spideyhead256 (Posts: 148; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)
he's actually kinda reminds me of hannibal.
4. scsa852k (Posts: 329; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
I'm sorry, but Dual core phones just aren't considered high-end phones any more.
Lame excuse about battery life on a quad-core just admits another flaw of BB10
7. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It is not our fault that BB 10 OS can't run quadcore processors. And people wonder why BB sales are tanking.
Well, maybe the misery that is BB won't be around by the holidays to foist their sub-par offerings on consumers.
5. papss (unregistered)
He surely looks nervous doesn't he. I wish them the best though.
6. Omar-BHR95 (Posts: 184; Member since: 23 Dec 2012)
its should have a quad core processor , camera higher than 10MP , 1080p Screen and battery capacity of 2100 mAh or more and ofcourse a stunning design
17. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
BB doesn't need any quad core processors, dual core is already enough to run their BB10 smartphones smoothly, just like Windows Phone.
37. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
That is called turning a disadvantage into a 'feature'. As long as your market is not technically knowledgeable (or, you have something that no other competitor can offer, like secure push e-mail), you can get away with selling crap. Those days for BB/RIM ended around 2007/2008.
No quad core CPU, no 1080p screen, crappy camera, and the market is voting with their wallets. Thanks but no thanks.
8. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4250; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Have we forgotten that it's not all about the number of cores? It's about the architecture. PA, you said in your review of the Z10 that it was very consistent in the way that it operated and rarely had any slow down, and that was on the typical S4 Plus and 2 GB of RAM, so even if they made a slight upgrade to the dual core S4 Pro (MSM8960T), there shouldn't be any slow down at all.
BB10 doesn't need 4 cores, it runs very smoothly on 2. All they need is a proper GPU to support 1080p displays, which the 8960T delivers, and they'll be golden performance wise.
Rock on, BB. I hope you make a comeback, and bring new innovative and useful features in your OS. Competition is always needed to push the industry.
20. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 1964; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
I loved BB10. It is truly innovative. They need to get their upgrade ducks in a row and get 10.2 out on a proper flagship, and they could make some noise. Unfortunately, that flagship will need to compete on specs and design, and the Aristo doesn't sound like it fills the bill.
9. Astian (Posts: 5; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
Only a dual core processor is required to run BB10 Smoothly.So why a quad core and a fast draining battery.?Why are you people still not mentioning that iPhone 5 only has a dual core processor?
10. snowgator (Posts: 3515; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Most people slamming this OS haven't given it a chance. I am worried about support. Microsoft is still clawing for App development and carrier support. If BB10 isn't a sales success I am worried it won't get the chance.
But it is a great OS. It is a blast to use, it's keyboard is intuitive and top shelf, and it is original. BlackBerry has a shot to really have something. Specs do not make the phone. Performance and functionality does. I think BB has those.
13. FlushGordon (unregistered)
The current *trend* will tell you that BB has ZERO chance of survival.
Android is like a freaking juggernaut that gives you the power of choice coupled with seemingly endless sea of free apps
21. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 1964; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)
Marketshare not only isn't everything, it's really nothing so long as almost all of the Android OEMs flounder. Other than Samsung, nobody else is in a position to lock out a great BB device.
38. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Hahaha. Market share is everything. It is how many people will buy your toys. No sales of toys = no revenues. No revenues in this market means no company once the investors have bailed.
16. alltechinside (Posts: 248; Member since: 21 Apr 2013)
BB 10 isn't a bad OS. I've used it my self and it is great for a first generation OS. But I think BB10 is a little too late in the competition. Android, iOS and even Windows Phone is very polished now and BB10 just entered the market which isn't good.
Sure, specs don't make the phone. But would BB10 be better than other Mobile OS? BB10 is intuitive and interesting to use but apart from that, BB10 doesn't offer much compared to the competition (read my post below).
I do hope BB can overcome this. Competition is good after all :D
12. MartyK (Posts: 734; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
Blackberry should came in with a 5.2 inch FHD screen with a battery of 2500 and up, it seem like they are a step behind the trend. They need to look towards the future, not the present.
Hint-start making your phone software platform that can connect and work with Google glasses/watches Blackberry!
14. alltechinside (Posts: 248; Member since: 21 Apr 2013)
IMO, having a high-end Blackberry phone would not help blackberry that much. They need to work on their software (Blackberry 10 OS), apps and their ecosystem. All they really have now is security, which is better than nothing but that really only attracts governments and businesses which is a small market.
On top of that, even Microsoft is struggling with windows phones, so it is much harder for BB to compete.
Maybe Blackberry should start thinking about Android. Android comes with Apps and a great OS. Maybe security could be a problem but BB could add their own security, framework, skins into Android.
15. MartyK (Posts: 734; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
That makes a lot of sense!, Android with BlackBerry security, that sounds good and possible sell their security in the play store.
That's a great idea, let Google do all the heavy lifting... lol
32. muhsen (Posts: 280; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)
hmmm....windows phone growth is six times faster than the whole smartphone growth ....I don't see that as Microsoft struggling
and looking to websites like gsmarena (the lumia 520 is just 2nd after galaxy s4 in most seen phones daily) ,the 520 is being in the first top 5 most viewed phones in many retailers website like carphonewarehouse and flipkart and the 520 doubling its share (which was already big) in on month ....and we r talking about one model,all this points that Microsoft and nokia r not struggling at all !!
45. alltechinside (Posts: 248; Member since: 21 Apr 2013)
Windows phone growth is 6 times faster than the whole smartphone growth because well, their market share is very small. They did increase quite a bit but if you look at it from the current market share, Android and iOS is pretty much dominating whereas Windows phone has a tiny bit of market share.
Windows Phone is not even near the market share that Android or iOS owns, so I wouldn't call Windows Phone successful. Maybe saying that Microsoft is struggling with Windows Phone isn't the right word but I didn't mean that Windows Phone is dying. Windows phone is not really successful or a failure.
I meant to say that even with Microsoft's huge cash of money and being a huge company, they are struggling to make an impact on the Mobile Market share. Therefore, other companies (like Blackberry) are going to have a harder time when even Microsoft is having trouble with phones.
44. snowgator (Posts: 3515; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Actually, can't argue with your points. I am cheering for BB, but I understand where they are at. Just be nice to see and gesture based OS make it as opposed to the "hunt and pick an icon" systems out there just for choice sake.
18. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
BB doesn't need any quad core processors, dual core is already enough to run their BB10 smartphones smoothly, just like Windows Phone. I think BB should use the 2GHz dual core Intel Atom processor.
Hope BB will be back on the competition soon. Good luck, BB!
19. Q1Q10 (Posts: 20; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
if they would really like to impress us they would do a quad core snapdragon or tegra 4 processor. next thing is the 1080p display. If they cant get that at the very least, it wont be able to compete with any and i mean any high end phones. Ram is good. GPU better be great as well. Adreno 330. No adreno 205 or they're out. Lastly if they really want to compete, they better not price this at 250 with contract. That's a suicide. I believe the q10 could have opened itself to a wider array of people if it hadn't been for the stupid decision to price it so high.
22. Hallucinator (Posts: 344; Member since: 24 May 2010)
I love technology in general. Sure, I have my preferences but I don't wish for anyone to fail. I have used BB7 and it is quite nice. I wish them the best of luck.
23. apiskula (banned) (Posts: 578; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
Thorsten you are an idiot, Your phones continue not to sell. You are done
24. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
What a complete cluster****!
Only Android can save ButtBerry's name but their too stubborn. A10, B10, C10 what difference does it make?
25. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)
Mr Heins, I have some suggestion for your next iteration of phone. Just modified the Z10;
1. 5" hd/full hd, 2mm side bezel and 4mm top and bottom bezel.
2. Dual stereo front speakers.
3. Place the name and logo at the back, like "a".
4. Dual cpu of atleast 1.9ghz/quad and powerful gpu.
5. 13mp + camera with ois.
6. Compact size like xperia zl, 9. something mm thickness is still good.
7. Min. of 32 gig ROM, with sd expansion (sd slot of 64 capacity)
8. 2600 mah + replaceable battery .
I want you to compete until the very end, and I like the design of your z10 with these spec. I didn't xperience other phone xcept Samsung and hTc.
So. .. Goodluck Mr. Heins!!! ;-)
27. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)
And add fm radio feature, it will also level up for your future flagship phone.
26. sriuslywtf (Posts: 297; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
Why not diversify.... Try other OS.. Perhaps an Android or WM flavored BB A10?
With all that gestures and premium feel of a BB device. Its a sure hit!
30. flynfree (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Jun 2013)
BlackBerry Android, BlackBerry Window phone? Wow!
28. kanagadeepan (Posts: 862; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)
OH... Then try optimizing your OS for Quad-Cores Mr. Heins... Dual-Cores have become mid-range phones... If you are going to use it in flagship phones, then at the least price it at par with mid-range phones of others...
33. FlushGordon (unregistered)
Apparently, Heins is having this delusion that he can command an Apple-like premium pricing, when all they have left is their ''Blackberry'' name.
34. guest (Posts: 326; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
The problem is that it's still a blackberry :-/
35. saenaedewe (Posts: 70; Member since: 01 May 2013)
Their plan B is to develop BBM for iOS and Android
40. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
That would have been an option 2 years ago. I suspect the market has moved on.
36. Newton (Posts: 14; Member since: 05 Jul 2013)
5 inch display need FHD and a Quad core to handle it.
41. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 3689; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
Yeah BB10 can run smoothly on dual cores just like WPs and iPhones.
42. sonisoe (Posts: 401; Member since: 06 May 2009)
having a new product with an old os is just a sign of how confused and troubled bb is....the product may be meant to be affordable for emerging markets, even so, people in these markets are aware of bb's os 10 and would expect a devise with the new os.. bb should just lower the price of that ugly looking q5.... bb please make something beautiful for a change....
43. isprobi (Posts: 525; Member since: 30 May 2011)
So many people get obsessed with specs. Just because Android needs quad core CPU and all the RAM you can throw at it does not mean other platforms do. And this whole "thin" thing is getting ridiculous. I find thin phones much harder to hold securely. I tried playihg with my Galaxy Note again and the navigation of the OS seems so clunky now. And it drives me crazy when the buttons turn off and are very difficult to see. This is one area where the Z10 is a big improvement. Sadly it may be too late for BlackBerry in today's saturated smartphone market. But I do not look forward to being stuck with Android and WP.